The Traitors - Series 4 Discussion Thread

[Benjamin]

Do they write their answer down?

[Adamw92]

…I was thinking that but she’s so great as a faithful, the need her and it’s great to watch her put things together…

I know but just imagine how she would be able to twist things as a traitor

[Ammi]

I know but just imagine how she would be able to twist things as a traitor

…true, true…

[Ray.]

Matt: I agree, I agree

Is he trying to put himself out there to be recruited :laugh:

[Ray.]

Wow I was half-joking, but he is putting himself out there to be recruited lol

[Ammi]

Matt: I agree, I agree

Is he trying to put himself out there to be recruited :laugh:

…and right on cue…:laugh:..

[Benjamin]

I’ll seduce you Matt

[Shaun]

:omgno: Matty!!!!!!!

[bots]

poor jessie

[Ammi]

Wow I was half-joking, but he is putting himself out there to be recruited lol

…*suspects Ray must be a traitor as he knows so much before it happens…*…

[Benjamin]

Matt sacrificing Jessie. :fist:

I absolutely wouldn’t recruit him, I wouldn’t trust him after that.

[Ray.]

Yeah I'm a regular Sibyl, Ammi. :smug:

[Shaun]

do not like the reality tv archetype of "aw she's sweet and has a disability so she deserves to win" so I am fully team Matty in this endeavour

[bots]

the traitors dont need to be truthful .... so they can say yes and then see what comes next

[Benjamin]

Amanda from S1 :love:

[Benjamin]

the traitors dont need to be truthful .... so they can say yes and then see what comes next

I’d personally recruit then murder Matthew lol

[bots]

jessie is just a laser beam traitor hunter

[Adamw92]

Amanda from S1 :love:

Now she’s a QUEEN

[Ammi]

Yeah I'm a regular Sibyl, Ammi. :smug:

…the all knowing eye…

[Benjamin]

Now she’s a QUEEN

She really is.

[Vanessa]

They got another traitor. Impressive

[LaLaLand]

Gutted to see Fiona go. She was really stirring the pot but a bit too much in the end, sadly. It all backfired. Shame.

[rusticgal]

I hope Jessie doesn’t go…but if she does then surely Stephen will be suspect :shrug:

[Ray.]

Be nice if they did the opposite, i.e., murdered Matty and seduced Jessie.

[Mystic Mock]

I have a feeling that I'm losing a couple of my favourites next week.:bawling:

[Mystic Mock]

Fiona FTW! :cheer2:

What a crap detective Amanda must had been. :laugh:

The fact that poor Jade and Sam could possibly get banished because of Amanda's crusade against them.:fist:

Although Jessie and Matthew are starting to get a bit obsessed with their targets too.

[Mystic Mock]

Something that is being put out there is that everyone in the show has a relationship/connection with someone else. Why else would they have a family tree :laugh:

My guesses.

Ben & Sam = Father & Son

Reece & Jessie - Brother & Sister

Harriet & Jade - Mother & Daughter

Rachel & Amanda - Girlfriends

Stephen & Matthew - Cousins

Hugo & Fiona - Husband & Wife

Maz & Faraaz - Father & Son

Adam & Jack - Best Friends

James & Netty - Boyfriend & Girlfriend

And we already know the Roxy/Judy and Ellie/Ross dynamics.

[Mystic Mock]

At least she was bringing though, people like Faraaz and Jack need to go as they’re just wallpaper. I hate when wallpaper reaches the final.

Tbf to Faraaz and Jack, Adam and Ellie aren't bringing much to the table either.

They're not even bringing us Roxy's ego.:laugh:

[Benjamin]

Tbf to Faraaz and Jack, Adam and Ellie aren't bringing much to the table either.

They're not even bringing us Roxy's ego.:laugh:

I can’t even recall who Adam is, so you’re right there. :worry:

[Mystic Mock]

Rachel also has villain nose.

:joker:

Poor Rachel.

[Mystic Mock]

…Jade is very stunning…:love:..

Indeed.:dance:

She's by far the best looking woman of the year imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Sam is growing on me. :worry:

I've always liked Sam.

He seems like a decent guy.

[Mystic Mock]

do not like the reality tv archetype of "aw she's sweet and has a disability so she deserves to win" so I am fully team Matty in this endeavour

Same here.

[Mystic Mock]

I can’t even recall who Adam is, so you’re right there. :worry:

He is the especially thick one that has replaced Amanda on the "it has to be Jade" theory.

[Ray.]

I don't know Adam...from Adam!

Seriously though, a face is not coming to mind when I hear the name. :laugh: I'm gonna have to google to remind myself.

Oh, yes! The cockney sounding fella who often wears a cap. Dunno how I forgot him tbh.

[Benjamin]

He is the especially thick one that has replaced Amanda on the "it has to be Jade" theory.

I don't know Adam...from Adam!

Seriously though, a face is not coming to mind when I hear the name. :laugh: I'm gonna have to google to remind myself.

Oh, yes! The cockney sounding fella who often wears a cap. Dunno how I forgot him tbh.

Ahh, that tool. Yeah, hope he goes soon. I have a feeling he’ll make the final though.

[bots]

i thought it was amazing that fiona went from being a sweet old granny to a deranged psycho in 2 days

[rusticgal]

I felt quite embarrassed for Amanda. She really is the Clouseau of the police force.


She set herself up...she was over confident and thought she was clever. Maybe if she had been a little more humble in that "I would like to think I have the ability"...but it was more "I have the training and the skills and I know what I am talking about" attitude she wouldn't have dug herself such a big hole :laugh:

I have no sympathy...:hee:

[Barry.]

Ahh, that tool. Yeah, hope he goes soon. I have a feeling he’ll make the final though.

Couldn’t place his name too but I know which one he is. Jack is non existent in this series

[Strictly Jake]

Hope they aren't getting rid of Jess next!

[Oliver_W]

A lot of the men just blend into one this series.

[Livia]

She set herself up...she was over confident and thought she was clever. Maybe if she had been a little more humble in that "I would like to think I have the ability"...but it was more "I have the training and the skills and I know what I am talking about" attitude she wouldn't have dug herself such a big hole :laugh:

I have no sympathy...:hee:

Me neither lol...

[Mystic Mock]

A lot of the men just blend into one this series.

Sam's the best guy this series imo.

[Cherie]

Okay we have watched the first 3 eps now, not read back the thread as there would be too many spoilers still, my thoughts are

The Traitors are very dislikeable
Fiona was an easy spot for the secret Traitor, she more or less told us when she was on camera being questioned, I want to like her but she has been done before on the Traitors, middle aged woman pretending to be a bit daft, also when she joined the other two in the Turrett she was very panto and hammy

Was delighted Hugo got the chop, so smug and when he was rolling his eyes at Fiona I wanted to punch him
Not a fan of Rachel, why does she keep saying I want to know where your head is at, its not Love Island, and this business of hunting down the secret Traitor, and how good she is at reading people, that is surely an act :laugh:
Stephen is a bit generic and meh

No favourite so far, apart from Ross is it me or has it all gone a bit panto? also I am not convinced at this stage that some of the conversations if not scripted are at least producer led....like dropping in about someone being a detective ...seemed a bit convenient I wonder if they should have waited a bit longer after the Celeb version as it feels a bit soon and I am not enjoying it as much as before

[Cherie]

Why didn't Reece say anything about Rachel and Stephen standing in front of the picture and Rachel asking him to leave....surely that was a massive red flag, Rachel is a terrible traitor

[rusticgal]

Why didn't Reece say anything about Rachel and Stephen standing in front of the picture and Rachel asking him to leave....surely that was a massive red flag, Rachel is a terrible traitor


Annoyed me intensely. I would be pissed off at two people asking me to leave a conversation and wanting to talk without me there….and in these circumstances it should have been a massive red flag. Especially as they find out about the family tree being tampered with….:shrug:

[Cherie]

Annoyed me intensely. I would be pissed off at two people asking me to leave a conversation and wanting to talk without me there….and in these circumstances it should have been a massive red flag. Especially as they find out about the family tree being tampered with….:shrug:

He must have mentioned it but its been edited out because it would leave them with just the one Traitor as Stephen is already on the faithfuls radar and Rachel would be next ...massive fix really

[rusticgal]

He must have mentioned it but its been edited out because it would leave them with just the one Traitor as Stephen is already on the faithfuls radar and Rachel would be next ...massive fix really


I have to say it’s a bit suspect…but then some of them are a bit dumb. Ross dug his own grave by keep digging at the Hetty connection but I can’t say any more as you have only watched the first 3…:wavey:

[Cherie]

I have to say it’s a bit suspect…but then some of them are a bit dumb. Ross dug his own grave by keep digging at the Hetty connection but I can’t say any more as you have only watched the first 3…:wavey:

4 now and Ross is gone ..what a travesty, left with quiet a few vanilla lads and ladies

on a separate note, I had that multi coloured cardy Jade wore so well, its hand made by Hope Macauley, paid 450 quid for it, but when it arrived it was so heavy I had to send it back apart from coming to my senses about the price :laugh:

Charlotte Church also wore a green version on the Celeb Traitors they must be getting freebies

[bots]

4 now and Ross is gone ..what a travesty, left with quiet a few vanilla lads and ladies

on a separate note, I had that multi coloured cardy Jade wore so well, its hand made by Hope Macauley, paid 450 quid for it, but when it arrived it was so heavy I had to send it back apart from coming to my senses about the price :laugh:

Charlotte Church also wore a green version on the Celeb Traitors they must be getting freebies

5 and 6 are another level :laugh:

[rusticgal]

4 now and Ross is gone ..what a travesty, left with quiet a few vanilla lads and ladies

on a separate note, I had that multi coloured cardy Jade wore so well, its hand made by Hope Macauley, paid 450 quid for it, but when it arrived it was so heavy I had to send it back apart from coming to my senses about the price :laugh:

Charlotte Church also wore a green version on the Celeb Traitors they must be getting freebies


I loved that jumper….i saw the price as 350.00…:wavey:

[Cherie]

I loved that jumper….i saw the price as 350.00…:wavey:

Yeah I ordered the midi version looks lovely but au didn't like how weighty it was

[Mystic Mock]

Okay we have watched the first 3 eps now, not read back the thread as there would be too many spoilers still, my thoughts are

The Traitors are very dislikeable
Fiona was an easy spot for the secret Traitor, she more or less told us when she was on camera being questioned, I want to like her but she has been done before on the Traitors, middle aged woman pretending to be a bit daft, also when she joined the other two in the Turrett she was very panto and hammy

Was delighted Hugo got the chop, so smug and when he was rolling his eyes at Fiona I wanted to punch him
Not a fan of Rachel, why does she keep saying I want to know where your head is at, its not Love Island, and this business of hunting down the secret Traitor, and how good she is at reading people, that is surely an act :laugh:
Stephen is a bit generic and meh

No favourite so far, apart from Ross is it me or has it all gone a bit panto? also I am not convinced at this stage that some of the conversations if not scripted are at least producer led....like dropping in about someone being a detective ...seemed a bit convenient I wonder if they should have waited a bit longer after the Celeb version as it feels a bit soon and I am not enjoying it as much as before

I think that the first two Series are still the best, but I am liking this series more than the last Civilian one where I only had Charlotte that I liked once Elen and Kasim were banished early on.

But I can understand where you're coming from tbf, as I've had that with Shows in the past where they've come back on air before you're personally ready for it to return.

[Mystic Mock]

I loved that jumper….i saw the price as 350.00…:wavey:

I love Jade in that Jumper.:flutter::laugh:

But seriously, I'm glad that you like the Jumper.:wavey:

[Ray.]

I will say, a fourth series seems oddly early to start playing with the formula and introducing gimmicks like a 'secret' traitor, etc.

[Benjamin]

I will say, a fourth series seems oddly early to start playing with the formula and introducing gimmicks like a 'secret' traitor, etc.

Tbf it’s the 5th if you count Celebrity Traitors. I didn’t mind the secret traitor. I’m glad it didn’t drag on for too long also.

[GoldHeart]

I wish they would stop putting in people who know another....it completely ruined it for both him and Hetty.... I know the others are keeping quiet about their relationships but its risky and pointless imo.

I agree,I've only just watched the first episode as I was extremely behind on this series,and I'm utterly disappointed to discover who's since been banished & murdered :bored:.

The moment Netty screamed out " omg Ross I know you " ....I thought oh ffs huge targets on both your backs:rolleyes:

As for the ones who keep their connections quiet... or at least try to ,if I was a contestant on The Traitors ,I'd be putting 2 & 2 together and figuring out the puzzle.

Especially when every year this happens now ,so I'd be thinking ' oh yeah for sure there's either a mother & daughter or siblings or best friends or something' :idc: . It's definitely risky and it's become predictable & old now ,to play this same merry dance schtick over and over again.

[rusticgal]

I love Jade in that Jumper.:flutter::laugh:

But seriously, I'm glad that you like the Jumper.:wavey:


I happen to look even better than Jade in that jumper...:inamood:

[GoldHeart]

I bet Jack with his boring PT ass will win , along with the other Mr Grey wallpapers of the series :sleep: .

[Mystic Mock]

I happen to look even better than Jade in that jumper...:inamood:

That's good news to hear.:dance::wavey:

[millyrose]

Gutted to see Fiona go. She was really stirring the pot but a bit too much in the end, sadly. It all backfired. Shame.

I really liked Fiona but she did lose the plot with going in like that, it really was a bad move.

[millyrose]

I hope Jessie doesn’t go…but if she does then surely Stephen will be suspect :shrug:

I'm hoping Jessie stay's, i think the traitors was lying just to throw Matt of the scent.

[Benjamin]

I'm hoping Jessie stay's, i think the traitors was lying just to throw Matt of the scent.

They’d be wise to murder him next after that stunt of his.

[millyrose]

They’d be wise to murder him next after that stunt of his.

I hope the do murder Matt.

[Mystic Mock]

I hope the do murder Matt.

Poor Barry if that happens.:laugh:

[Ammi]

…looking forward to 3 days of treasury and traitor-ish behahaviour…

[Mystic Mock]

:fc: For a miracle to happen and that Jade and Sam can both get to the final week.

[Cherie]

Why does Matt want Jesse murdered, bizarre request

Looking forward to Hilarys questions

[Benjamin]

Why does Matt want Jesse murdered, bizarre request

Looking forward to Hilarys questions

My best guess would be maybe he suspects her as a Traitor, so thinks she can’t be murdered and this will confirm to him she is a Traitor if she isn’t.

Also it’s Queen Harriet, not Hilary. :laugh:

[Cherie]

My best guess would be maybe he suspects her as a Traitor, so thinks she can’t be murdered and this will confirm to him she is a Traitor if she isn’t.

Also it’s Queen Harriet, not Hilary. :laugh:

I knew it was something starting with H :laugh:

[Benjamin]

I knew it was something starting with H :laugh:

:laugh:

I hope she makes it to the final. She’s been brilliant.

[Mystic Mock]

My best guess would be maybe he suspects her as a Traitor, so thinks she can’t be murdered and this will confirm to him she is a Traitor if she isn’t.

Also it’s Queen Harriet, not Hilary. :laugh:

I was wondering who Hilary was meant to be.:laugh:

[bots]

i think at the present time, Jessie is the only one that would likely never be banished, which means she is a shoe in for the final if she is not murdered. So someone requesting her murder is just seeing off the competition to the prize money. It's a strategy thats never really explored ..... faithfuls wanting their rival faithfuls killed off to increase their chances of winning :laugh:

[Cherie]

i think at the present time, Jessie is the only one that would likely never be banished, which means she is a shoe in for the final if she is not murdered. So someone requesting her murder is just seeing off the competition to the prize money. It's a strategy thats never really explored ..... faithfuls wanting their rival faithfuls killed off to increase their chances of winning :laugh:

I like it, its fresh and new

[Vanessa]

Oh this is getting good, can't wait for tonight episode,
Love all the Intrigue and twists

[millyrose]

Why does Matt want Jesse murdered, bizarre request

Looking forward to Hilarys questions

I think that it's because his first question was who are you going to murder next and they wrote down Jessie. So that's when he said yes murder Jessie then seduce him.

[Ammi]

i think at the present time, Jessie is the only one that would likely never be banished, which means she is a shoe in for the final if she is not murdered. So someone requesting her murder is just seeing off the competition to the prize money. It's a strategy thats never really explored ..... faithfuls wanting their rival faithfuls killed off to increase their chances of winning :laugh:

…I mean, I would say that’s a dreadful strategy tbh…:laugh:…he’s just revealed to the Traitors that he’s a strategist and a ruthless one as well who is willing to target another Faithful in his ‘deal’ that he’s offering…(…I mean, everyone’s a rival so being seen as a rival is not really cutting it…)…(…and also, what’s his ‘trade off’ in this deal for the requested killing of Jessie…)…anyway, he’s more than ever just revealed why he should be targeted next by the Traitors…let him know that his request is accepted and then kill him next…

[bots]

…I mean, I would say that’s a dreadful strategy tbh…:laugh:…he’s just revealed to the Traitors that he’s a strategist and a ruthless one as well who is willing to target another Faithful in his ‘deal’ that he’s offering…(…I mean, everyone’s a rival so being seen as a rival is not really cutting it…)…(…and also, what’s his ‘trade off’ in this deal for the requested killing of Jessie…)…anyway, he’s more than ever just revealed why he should be targeted next by the Traitors…let him know that his request is accepted and then kill him next…

the traitors didn't like fiona being able to dictate the group to be killed. so i would imagine the traitors will like this option even less :laugh:

[bots]

8 mins

[Adamw92]

2 minutes…

[Ammi]

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[Benjamin]

Here we go

[Ammi]

…Harriet is so good in her perceptions…

[Ammi]

…what will Rachel reveal to the others what her Traitor questions were…

[Benjamin]

No don’t take him on

[Nicky91]

I hope the creators their new concept Pandora also to lift off internationally, i love it anyway, which is based on old greek mythology, set in greece too, with quests about one of the gods or myths


I actually love it more than traitors :laugh: and that says something considering how into traitors i am


Offtopic i know but some shameless promo about what traitors production team are currently up to

[Adamw92]

Oohhhh they said yes

[bots]

lets see what harriet asks

[Benjamin]

I’m intrigued to see what Harriet asks

[Ammi]

No don’t take him on

…take him out…!!!…

[Benjamin]

lets see what harriet asks

Snap :laugh:

[Adamw92]

Imagine if Harriet asks to be recruited

[Nicky91]

I mean we got Nancy Pelosi's son in law in that pandora line up :fan:

[Benjamin]

Good question

[Ammi]

…oh Harriet does want to be recruited also…why did she give them that information about herself and become a target…

[Benjamin]

Harriet :joker:

[Ammi]

…..Harriet is going to war….

[Adamw92]

:laugh2:

[bots]

harriet is going to blow it

[Ammi]

…you know it’s serious when someone uses compunction in a sentence..l

[Adamw92]

Oh my, mic dropped

[Benjamin]

Harriet is so bloody good

[Ammi]

Oh my, mic dropped

…:fan:…

[Ammi]

Harriet is so bloody good

…I can’t believe that you gave her to me in the sweepstakes…

[Benjamin]

Soo savage :joker:

[Ammi]

…Harriet’s an original for sure…

[Adamw92]

Not sure how Rachel could survive this

[AnnieK]

Harriett is amazing :love:

[Benjamin]

Not sure how Rachel could survive this

Yeah, it’s going to be very hard. Especially as Harriet got Hugo and the group trust her. Unless, Rachel can convince them to oust Harriet.

[Ammi]

Harriett is amazing :love:

…:love:..

[Vanessa]

Rachel is done

[Ammi]

…no collective for Queen Harriet…

[Adamw92]

She’s a woman on a mission

[Ammi]

…oh Roxy, shhhhhh….Lady Harriet has the floor…

[Benjamin]

Roxy be quiet nobody wants to hear from you

[Benjamin]

Harriet. :clap1:

[bots]

i think rachel will survive.... just my feeling

[Benjamin]

i think rachel will survive.... just my feeling

It could backfire on Harriet.

[Ammi]

…if she survives, Harriet’s gone…

[Vanessa]

Harriet is like a dog with a bone :laugh:

[Adamw92]

Harriet won’t survive long whether she manages to get Rachel banished or not

[bots]

It could backfire on Harriet.

yes, the fact that she withheld her back story is a big flag

[Ammi]

Harriet won’t survive long whether she manages to get Rachel banished or not

…yeah, I mean even if Rachel was banished it would seem like Traitor v Traitor so I think she would be next…

[Benjamin]

Ahh we’ve reached the intense part of the game.

[Adamw92]

The round table will be a bloodbath

[Adamw92]

It could backfire on Harriet.

She’s brilliant but for the sake of drama… I would lowkey be here for her getting herself banished

[bots]

i felt rachel blew it when she revealed about amanda being a crap copper, so she has been at risk from that point

[Benjamin]

I think we’ll lose Rachel and Harriet in some order today and tomorrow.

[bots]

I think we’ll lose Rachel and Harriet in some order today and tomorrow.

the other guy who wants to be a traitor is also at serious risk

[Barry.]

Harriet was so rude today. I hope she goes tbh. Yes it’s a game but no need to be rude to Roxy or Rachel

[Benjamin]

Hahaha Cheeky James

[Ammi]

…why were they leaving the shield, I don’t understand…?…

[Ammi]

…oh I see, no never mind…:laugh:…

[Benjamin]

Hahaha 7 shields

[Ammi]

…that blood fountain is a bit chilling…

[Vanessa]

They took 7 shields:joker:

[Benjamin]

Everyone is so on edge :joker:

[Barry.]

Who took the shields? I couldn’t catch them all

[Adamw92]

Who took the shields? I couldn’t catch them all

Faraaz, Jessie, Jack, Jade, Rachel, Stephen and James

[bots]

this is so funny, they are all completely paranoid :laugh:

[Barry.]

Faraaz, Jessie, Jack, Jade, Rachel, Stephen and James

Thanks. James really did a stupid thing. Who’s Jack? I don’t recall him at all

[Adamw92]

Thanks. James really did a stupid thing. Who’s Jack? I don’t recall him at all

He’s one of the quiet ones, curly hair and glasses

[Barry.]

He’s one of the quiet ones, curly hair and glasses

Yeah I know was being sarcastic because he’s had like no screen time at all

[Ammi]

…I fear Harriet’s gone…

[Adamw92]

Here we go

[Benjamin]

They’re sat next to each other :joker:

[Barry.]

…I fear Harriet’s gone…

Hope so, too rude for me

[Ammi]

They’re sat next to each other :joker:

…both wearing red…

[Barry.]

Tbf Harriet makes good thoughts but where is the evidence

[AnnieK]

I think we are going to lost Harriett

[Ammi]

…not the Trained by the FBI line..

[Benjamin]

Rachel is good. Ooh, could we see Jade go?

[Adamw92]

I like how cool Rachel stayed through that, she might not be down yet but we will see

[Ammi]

…good counter by Harriet…

[Benjamin]

We’ll lose Harriet tonight.

[Ammi]

…she was prepared to give it all up…

[Benjamin]

She just wants the faithful to win.

[Vanessa]

Harriett going all guns blazing has backfired. Should have been more subtle.

[bots]

i think rachel is capable of brushing it off tomorrow

[Ammi]

She just wants the faithful to win.

…selfless sacrificing queen…:lovedup:..

[Benjamin]

i think rachel is capable of brushing it off tomorrow

Well with Matt and Roxy as the other names she can push them

[Ammi]

…Roxy always has to butt in and not let people have their moment…

[Benjamin]

I hope Adam goes soon.

[bots]

they should recruit tonight and wait for clearer shields tomorrow

[Benjamin]

Stephen is a little babe.

[Benjamin]

they should recruit tonight and wait for clearer shields tomorrow

They want to leave Roxy and Matt as if they get banished it’ll dispel Harriet’s theory and clear Rachel for a bit.

[bots]

They want to leave Roxy and Matt as if they get banished it’ll dispel Harriet’s theory and clear Rachel for a bit.

they could recruit roxy to throw under the bus :laugh:

[Benjamin]

If they recruit, Ellie would be a strong choice.

[Adamw92]

They could recruit Matt and let everyone gun for him, he’s revealed as a traitor and Harriet is proven right about him at least

[Benjamin]

I do love Rachel and Stephen.

[Vanessa]

They need to recruit.

[Benjamin]

They could recruit Matt and let everyone gun for him, he’s revealed as a traitor and Harriet is proven right about him at least

Nah, as that would still keep Rachel in the spotlight with the theory being proved correct.

[Ammi]

I do love Rachel and Stephen.

…me too…

[Adamw92]

Imagine if they guess and actually successfully murder Adam

[Ammi]

Imagine if they guess and actually successfully murder Adam

…it’s very risky, isn’t it…

[bots]

i think they went for jessie

[Benjamin]

Imagine if they guess and actually successfully murder Adam

I pray for this. He’s an awful player.

[Benjamin]

Yay, Maddy. :lovedup:

[Adamw92]

They’ve actually went for it, bet they went for Jessie or James

[Benjamin]

I want Rachel and Stephen to make the final together and keep their promise to each other.

[LaLaLand]

Probably my favourite episode so far. Carnage!!

[Mystic Mock]

Well I'm glad that Harriet bought Jade and Sam another episode.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

…Roxy always has to butt in and not let people have their moment…

Tbf, she did declare herself as the most likable.... Without meaning to sound bigheaded of course.:laugh:

[rusticgal]

Don’t like Rachel…she will throw Stephen under the bus and I think he would remain loyal to her until the end.

[Cherie]

Really warmed to Rachel and Stephen now, crikey Harriet blew herself up, don't think there was any need for her attitude at the breakfast table she took it too seriously

[Cherie]

Kinda sick of Jesses shocked face, close your mouth dear

[Cherie]

Its funny how none of the criminal masterminds suspect Stephen

[LaLaLand]

What’s baffled me most and probably completely sums up just how fooled Rachel has everyone, is that not one person quizzes her when she said she’s been trained by a former FBI agent!? Like wtf? :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Its funny how none of the criminal masterminds suspect Stephen

It's because they like him.

Once it's all said and done, if the group like the Traitor then they're going to hesitate to pull the trigger, even if the Traitor in question is going Beetroot red.:joker:

[Ray.]

Rachel was very clever, i.e., laying the groundwork for Harriet being a traitor at the breakfast table, but it was also kind of a last Hail Mary. Implying it's every traitor for themselves looks really bad for the frothing at the mouth Harriet after Fiona had already gone guns ablazing at Rachel during the last round table and then been found out as a traitor herself. It's a double-edged sword though, because that also implies that Harriet and Fiona going after Rachel so strongly is because they were two traitors ganging up on a third one. Methinks Rachel's running on fumes now. There's more smoke around her now than there ever was with Ross, even with all the Netty and Ben hoopla going around. Ironically, despite all his screwups, Stephen might be the last traitor standing through sheer dumb luck and likeability. :laugh:

[OnTheRight]

Kinda sick of Jesses shocked face, close your mouth dear

She does my swede in. I hope she is banished or murdered ASAP.

[Mystic Mock]

She does my swede in. I hope she is banished or murdered ASAP.

I personally wouldn't be too fussed at this stage of the competition.

[Ammi]

What’s baffled me most and probably completely sums up just how fooled Rachel has everyone, is that not one person quizzes her when she said she’s been trained by a former FBI agent!? Like wtf? :joker:

…:laugh:…it was terrific viewing…’I’m a crime writer…!!!!!!!!’….’I’m FBI trained/check mate…!!!!!!!!…’….

…I was reading that Harriet has a book being released in February so this will raise her profile a bit and might help sales of that… her stories actually have been very successful with one being named as a Sunday Times bestseller…

[Benjamin]

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[Mystic Mock]

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:joker:

I wonder if Rachel will be a villain in any of Harriet's future Books?:think:

[rusticgal]

I find the whole FBI training thing a bit embarrassing...waste of time when you pleaded to be a Traitor :laugh:

[Benjamin]

I find the whole FBI training thing a bit embarrassing...waste of time when you pleaded to be a Traitor :laugh:

Yeah, but you don’t know if you’ll be a traitor when you sign up. :laugh:

Good to have it as a back up in case you’re a faithful. Plus it’s pretty cool thing to have done.

[Ammi]

I find the whole FBI training thing a bit embarrassing...waste of time when you pleaded to be a Traitor :laugh:

…that moment when Rachel said it, it reminded me a lot of the BB housemate, Lisa was it…?…who said that she could kill someone with two fingers…

[millyrose]

Harriett going all guns blazing has backfired. Should have been more subtle.

She was so over the top, gutted she's gone though.

[Cherie]

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:joker:

[Cherie]

What is it with people this year begging for people to vote them out so they can prove their faithfulness, first Reece and now Harriet, terrible game play

[millyrose]

Don’t like Rachel…she will throw Stephen under the bus and I think he would remain loyal to her until the end.

I don't like Rachel either and agree that she will throw Stephen under the bus.

[millyrose]

What’s baffled me most and probably completely sums up just how fooled Rachel has everyone, is that not one person quizzes her when she said she’s been trained by a former FBI agent!? Like wtf? :joker:

I think all the faithful are really stupid.

[Ammi]

I think all the faithful are really stupid.

…I think individually there are often some very perceptive faithfuls who do pick up well on clues but because they’re such a large group with so many inputs, it can and does often get chaotic and diverts to another course or target so easily or it becomes very single visioned…I’d always want to be a Traitor because it’s just so much easier to be focused and clear thinking in a smaller group as the Traitors are…obviously they’re trying to stay concealed as well but that would add an element of fun…

[Livia]

I think all the faithful are really stupid.

Me too! I really like Roxy at the start but now I find her particularly stupid and irritating.

So they all voted for Harriet last night, but even now no one is looking at dreadful Rachel. So she knows someone who was once in the FBI, allegedly, and she's had three months of training, allegedly... Is no one interested what that training is supposed to have consisted of? If it happened, it might have been an hour a week. I'm calling bullshit on that whole lie.

[Livia]

What is it with people this year begging for people to vote them out so they can prove their faithfulness, first Reece and now Harriet, terrible game play

I really like Harriet, but this whole exposing "who they are really" is stupid and over dramatic. She'd have done better to go about Rachel's downfall quietly because she was on the money and Rachel was feeling real pressure. Revealing she was once a barrister just led some of the most stupid faithful - Roxy, for instance - to say "she's the same as Hugo".

[Vanessa]

I really like Harriet, but this whole exposing "who they are really" is stupid and over dramatic. She'd have done better to go about Rachel's downfall quietly because she was on the money and Rachel was feeling real pressure. Revealing she was once a barrister just led some of the most stupid faithful - Roxy, for instance - to say "she's the same as Hugo".

Yes she should have been more subtle. The way she went on about backfired on her.

[bots]

What got me is that why does being a mystery writer and an ex barrister become a more reliable detector of who is a traitor and who is a faithful. The same is true for micro expressions which have been debunked as being reliable for decades :laugh:

[Cherie]

What got me is that why does being a mystery writer and an ex barrister become a more reliable detector of who is a traitor and who is a faithful. The same is true for micro expressions which have been debunked as being reliable for decades :laugh:

Its all nonsense, given they are not dealing in reality, anyone could be telling porkies which is why Amandas assertion that she knew who the traitors were as she was an inspector were all over the shop :laugh:

[OnTheRight]

I personally wouldn't be too fussed at this stage of the competition.

She sickens my happiness, I want her off my screen. :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

Amanda was a detective ...
Harriett was a barrister and mystery writer ...

Yeah, but:

Stephen Seagal is an actor, Cheryl Cole was a singer, and Rachel Reeves is Chancellor.

Just because Amanda and Harriett had those jobs, doesn't mean they were good at them.

[Livia]

Amanda was a detective ...
Harriett was a barrister and mystery writer ...

Yeah, but:

Stephen Seagal is an actor, Cheryl Cole was a singer, and Rachel Reeves is Chancellor.

Just because Amanda and Harriett had those jobs, doesn't mean they were good at them.

This made me literally lol.

[millyrose]

Me too! I really like Roxy at the start but now I find her particularly stupid and irritating.

So they all voted for Harriet last night, but even now no one is looking at dreadful Rachel. So she knows someone who was once in the FBI, allegedly, and she's had three months of training, allegedly... Is no one interested what that training is supposed to have consisted of? If it happened, it might have been an hour a week. I'm calling bullshit on that whole lie.

Agree i liked Roxy at first but yes she really is stupid, i reckon Claudia could go in there with a clue saying Rachel is a traitor and Roxy would go for someone else :laugh:

[Livia]

Agree i liked Roxy at first but yes she really is stupid, i reckon Claudia could go in there with a clue saying Rachel is a traitor and Roxy would go for someone else :laugh:

LOL... I think you're right.

[Benjamin]

Who do we reckon is going tonight? And did they succeed with the murder gamble?

[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

Who do we reckon is going tonight? And did they succeed with the murder gamble?

…it would be so cool if the gamble did work…

[bots]

i reckon they picked jessie and got bounced. I think Rachel will go tonight

[Adamw92]

It’s time

[Ammi]

i reckon they picked jessie and got bounced. I think Rachel will go tonight

…do you think Rachel will go…?..I think that she might slide through again…

[Ammi]

It’s time

…it’s time to trait…and hey..:love:..

[Adamw92]

…it’s time to trait…and hey..:love:..

Hey :wavey:

[Vanessa]

Here we go! :pipe:

[Shaun]

:fc: one of the many deadwood actually do anything this evening

[Benjamin]

-prays Adam was murdered-

[Ammi]

…I wonder if they get offered to recruit again today and will they this time…

[Adamw92]

-prays Adam was murdered-

:fc:

Wait…

[Benjamin]

…I wonder if they get offered to recruit again today and will they this time…

Guess it may depend if they both survive.

[Ammi]

…obviously assuming they don’t lose another one at the banishment…/…then there will have to be a recruit…

[Ammi]

Guess it may depend if they both survive.

…obviously assuming they don’t lose another one at the banishment…/…then there will have to be a recruit…

…:laugh:..I pressed the on button on my brain…

[Ammi]

:fc: one of the many deadwood actually do anything this evening

…so much deadwood still in there, it’s annoying…

[Vanessa]

They should have recruited. Too many people had shields.

[Benjamin]

Considering Jade has been voted since episode 1, it’s impressive she’s still there.

[Ammi]

They should have recruited. Too many people had shields.

…they’re playing a risky game, will it pay for them hmmmmm….

[bots]

i feel sorry for jade, she doesn't even look guilty :laugh:

[Ammi]

i feel sorry for jade, she doesn't even look guilty :laugh:

….ahhhhhh, but maybe some think that her skill is not looking guilty…

[Adamw92]

Who will walk in??

[Benjamin]

Yeeeeess bye Adam you useless twat.

[Ammi]

….oh wow, they’re unbreakable these Traitors…

[Adamw92]

YES!!! They did it

[Benjamin]

Not adamw92 btw :laugh:

[Adamw92]

Not adamw92 btw :laugh:

You wanted me dead! :fist:

[Shaun]

1 bore down :love:

[Ammi]

…that was a huge risk, such credit to them both…:love:…

[Ammi]

1 bore down :love:

…:fan:..

[bots]

that was a cool move

[Benjamin]

You wanted me dead! :fist:

:dazzler:

[Ammi]

…so will James be the next target…?…

[Adamw92]

Could be James, Roxy or Matt banished tonight, maybe?

[bots]

…so will James be the next target…?…

not with this thick bunch :laugh: