The Traitors - Series 4 Discussion Thread

[AnnieK]

That looked fun....they all did well

[Ammi]

but where is the pail of water...

…it’s coming tumbling after…

[Adamw92]

OMG Faraaz going here would be even better

[Shaun]

I will eat several slices of humble pie for all the crap I talked about Jade in here earlier in the series if she's managed to convince Jack to turn on Faraaz, here

I mean, she'd still be useless :laugh: but a wonderful king/queenmaker

[Ray.]

Faraaz really has the derp smile

[Benjamin]

Faraaz trying to convince Jack to get the outcome none of us want.

[Adamw92]

Stephen better not vote against Rachel

[BBXX]

If it ends in a Faraaz and Jack win I will be so annoyed.

[Shaun]

One positive I would say for this series is that this feels a LOT less predictable than last year's finale

[Ammi]

…now they don’t know if they’ve banished a traitor or faithful…?..

[Ammi]

If it ends in a Faraaz and Jack win I will be so annoyed.

…come over here to the annoyed sofa and sit right down…

[Benjamin]

If it ends in a Faraaz and Jack win I will be so annoyed.

As will most of the nation.

[Benjamin]

One positive I would say for this series is that this feels a LOT less predictable than last year's finale

Yeah, that seer twist ruined such a good season.

[Adamw92]

Jade or Faraaz going here will guarantee Rachel and Stephen can win if they vote the same way going forward after this

[Benjamin]

Jade or Faraaz going here will guarantee Rachel and Stephen can win if they vote the same way going forward after this

No, not if the final 4 tie. And can’t come to a majority. It’ll be chance again.

[Adamw92]

No, not if the final 4 tie. And can’t come to a majority. It’ll be chance again.

Still a better chance of at least 1 of them winning than if Rachel goes here cause Faraaz and Jack can plot to get rid of Stephen

[Ammi]

…uh oh…

[Ammi]

…Stephen reaching over for his board first…:laugh:…

[Benjamin]

I think Faraaz will switch to Rachel. And Stephen will vote her too.

[Shaun]

:fc:

[Ammi]

…Stephen nodded and smiled, I think he’s voted Rachel…

[Adamw92]

Another tie??

[Ammi]

…oh Jade…that’s sad…

[bots]

the traitors have played a blinder

[Ray.]

Brutal

[Benjamin]

Yay for Rachel but awwww for Jade :bawling:

[Adamw92]

YES STEPHEN!!! :clap1:

[Shaun]

should have gone for Faraaz first :facepalm:

[Ammi]

…Rachel the last lady standing, regardless…

[bots]

its going to be 2 vs 2 potentially

[Benjamin]

its going to be 2 vs 2 potentially

I reckon Stephen may switch.

[Ammi]

…could we get a traitor win…

[Benjamin]

…could we get a traitor win…

I’m still praying for both to be the final 2.

[Shaun]

if the outcome of the whole series is decided by a shield chest :bawling:

[Ray.]

Faraaz is so easily led

[bots]

i still cant call it :laugh:

[Benjamin]

Prays Jack votes Rachel, Faraaz votes Stephen and Rachel and Stephen vote faraaz

[Shaun]

all of these heavy, heavy "suspicious glances" and "glares" from Rachel to Stephen during that vote... PLEASE be a decoy :laugh:

it would be so, so self-destructive if either of them decide to flip now.

[bots]

Stephen is back to his retro look

[Ammi]

…Stephen in his fabulous catsuit/Abba look again…::lovedup:..

[Adamw92]

Prays Jack votes Rachel, Faraaz votes Stephen and Rachel and Stephen vote faraaz

Manifesting :fc:

[Benjamin]

I hope Stephen doesn’t get greedy

[Shaun]

oop, rainy night of filming I presume. Unless they've binned the outside reveals for good now.

[Ammi]

…they usually do this outdoors…

[Ammi]

oop, rainy night of filming I presume. Unless they've binned the outside reveals for good now.

…they usually do this outdoors…

…:laugh:..

[Benjamin]

They did indoors for season 2 and celebrity.

[Benjamin]

I have a feeling Stephen will vote Rachel.

[Shaun]

They did indoors for season 2 and celebrity.

yeah I couldn't remember S3's being either... I've wiped it from my mind for how disastrous it was :laugh:

[Ammi]

…oh gosh, this is tense…I can’t call it…

[bots]

i cant cope :laugh:

[Adamw92]

Please be Faraaz out :fc:

[Ammi]

…Rachel totally loyal to Stephen…

[Benjamin]

Oh my god. If Rachel and Stephen stick together. PleeeaSsee let it be.

[Shaun]

I can't believe there were people saying Faraaz deserved to win for guessing Rachel was a traitor when there was 5 people left :joker: he's just ****ED himself :fc: :fc: :fc:

[Ray.]

Rachel and Stephen, the ride or die traitors lol

[bots]

wow

[Benjamin]

Yeeeeesssss

[bots]

so its a traitor win

[Benjamin]

OMF!!! I’m so bloody happy

[Shaun]

YES!!!!!!!!!

[Ray.]

Well Faraaz it would have been nice having you here, now get the **** out :joker:

[Ammi]

…well played Stephen and Rachel …:love:…what an alliance…

[Benjamin]

Now let both of them get to the end and split the money.

[Adamw92]

Stephen, you need to come through one last time! You can BOTH win :fc:

[Ammi]

…this is so good, it’s like a glorious script…

[Benjamin]

I pray neither get greedy.

[Benjamin]

Jack knows he’s lost.

[Shaun]

"There's one person I want to be stood with at the end" oh my god if he means Rachel I will CRY from the beauty of #Friendship

[Benjamin]

"There's one person I want to be stood with at the end" oh my god if he means Rachel I will CRY from the beauty of #Friendship

I hope it’s not Jack

[Ammi]

"There's one person I want to be stood with at the end" oh my god if he means Rachel I will CRY from the beauty of #Friendship

…:lovedup:…

[Adamw92]

Please Stephen

[Ray.]

Hit the road, Jack , don't you come back no more

[Ammi]

…oh Stephen you beautiful man…:lovedup:…

[bots]

perfect result wow

[Benjamin]

Yreeeesssssssszsssssss

[Benjamin]

:clap1:

[Shaun]

YES! :lovedup:

[Benjamin]

FINALLY WE GET A GOOD TRAITORS WIN!!!!

So happy

[Ray.]

And he just ruined his wedding suit, too

[Ammi]

…probably the two loveliest traitors we’ve ever had…so pleased that Rachel has won the prize for him mom in children…:love:…and Stephen so deserves it also…

[Benjamin]

Yaaaaas so happy for them! They did so bloody well as a pair.

[Adamw92]

I’m so happy!!! :love: :cheer:

[Benjamin]

Brilliant end to a brilliant season.

[Benjamin]

Claudia crying too :love:

[bots]

isnt it funny that the 2 traitors were the most faithful :joker:

[Ray.]

A victory for the traitors

https://media1.tenor.com/m/R8tjxNA0DX8AAAAC/gentlemen-to-evil.gif

[Ammi]

…honestly, that was glorious…:lovedup:…and it seemed so hopeless after yesterday…:laugh:…when you believe…!!…

[Benjamin]

Shows that traitors can work together to make it to the end.

[Shaun]

Calories crying too :love:

enough of your diet.

[Benjamin]

enough of your diet.

:laugh:

[Shaun]

Only sad thing is we don't get to see Faraaz, Jack and Jade's reaction to these two's reveal? (I mean I'm sure Jack worked it out for once, but still :laugh: )

[Ammi]

…oh the weather seems lovely outside, they just didn’t have the budget for an outdoor fire pit final…

[Ammi]

…just shows in reality TV that we can sometimes have nice things…

[BBXX]

That was so ace! I was expecting we would have to go through the Split/Steal scenario - I’m so glad we didn’t. What a rollercoaster.

[Ammi]

…oh Shaun ….


…Happy Birthday…:love:..I got you a Stephen/Rachel win and a Faraaz/Jack banishment…bought the first one, got the second one free..

[Barry.]

I’m sooo happy with that outcome. So glad. Best ending ever

[Ammi]

That was so ace! I was expecting we would have to go through the Split/Steal scenario - I’m so glad we didn’t. What a rollercoaster.

…:lovedup:…dreams do come true…

[Shaun]

…oh Shaun ….


…Happy Birthday…:love:..I got you a Stephen/Rachel win and a Faraaz/Jack banishment…bought the first one, got the second one free..

*pouts because I wanted Harriet to come back and bury Roxy herself*

[Ammi]

*pouts because I wanted Harriet to come back and bury Roxy herself*

…:laugh:…you’re such a high maintenance princess…

[Benjamin]

Harriet’s turret moment was so brilliant

[Ammi]

….some lovely individuals in the faithfuls…:love:.. but as a collective, they were some of the worst we’ve had in picking up on clues…

[Benjamin]

….some lovely individuals in the faithfuls…:love:.. but as a collective, they were some of the worst we’ve had in picking up on clues…

There were some brilliant faithfuls (Harriet and Jessie) but the stupid ones didn’t listen to them.

[Benjamin]

Looking forward to Stephen and Rachel’s interview.

[Strictly Jake]

I was really sad jade came 5th but it was bound to happen. I loved that the traitors won together

[Benjamin]

I was really sad jade came 5th but it was bound to happen. I loved that the traitors won together

Yeah, sad for Jade. But I’m also so happy for Rachel and Stephen.

[Cherie]

Brilliant result, I knew Rachel would not waver :dance: well done Stephen and Rachel

[Strictly Jake]

Another fantastic series from Claudia too. I adore her so much

[bots]

i enjoyed every episode

[Cherie]

You can always trust an Irish woman to stick to her word :hee:

[bots]

Stephens fashion was tactics :laugh:

[Strictly Jake]

Im just so happy faraaz and Jack didnt win I would have been so annoyed. Faraaz cos he was a background character for too long, and Jack cos he says fateful instead of faithful which gets on my wick

[rusticgal]

Never liked Rachel…BUT she was loyal in the end and I wanted Stephen to win as the game progressed as I normally route for the Faithfuls. I think Stephen played it really well…he was likeable and played a fair game without being nasty…whereas Rachel I found was mean in her tactics…she was good but she didn’t endear herself to the public like Stephen did.
The faithfuls were useless and the stronger faithfuls went too early. It all became a little too frustrating with clear clues being ignored until it was all too late.
It’s a brilliant show…I just love it. A traitor deserved to win on this occasion.

[Mystic Mock]

Stephen and Rachel did it.:joker:

I'm glad that they didn't string Jade along like I thought that they were going to do.

Poor Jack though.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I’m so sad this series is already finishing, it’s flown by

I agree, I've really enjoyed this series so much.

I honestly want to say that about the next BBUK series in a few months time.

[Mystic Mock]

i like faraaz :laugh:

He seems like a decent guy tbf.

[Benjamin]

Never liked Rachel…BUT she was loyal in the end and I wanted Stephen to win as the game progressed as I normally route for the Faithfuls. I think Stephen played it really well…he was likeable and played a fair game without being nasty…whereas Rachel I found was mean in her tactics…she was good but she didn’t endear herself to the public like Stephen did.
The faithfuls were useless and the stronger faithfuls went too early. It all became a little too frustrating with clear clues being ignored until it was all too late.
It’s a brilliant show…I just love it. A traitor deserved to win on this occasion.

I loved Rachel (as do most people I know), brilliant traitor. He wouldn’t have won without her (and vice versa). They needed the strategic (her play) and social (his play).

[Mystic Mock]

One positive I would say for this series is that this feels a LOT less predictable than last year's finale

Plus I would argue that they were all more likable than Leanne and Jake.

[Benjamin]

I can't believe there were people saying Faraaz deserved to win for guessing Rachel was a traitor when there was 5 people left :joker: he's just ****ED himself :fc: :fc: :fc:

Those people are morons. :laugh:

[millyrose]

…I think it’s on BBC iplayer from today, millyrose…I’m going to check it out later after the Uk finale…

Yes thank you found it.

[millyrose]

I’m so sad this series is already finishing, it’s flown by

Yes i know i have really loved it.

[millyrose]

Ahhhh. Poor James :(

I was gutted James went, just had a feeling once he did go that it would be a traitor win.

[millyrose]

Yay for Rachel but awwww for Jade :bawling:

Gutted i wanted Jade to win.

[millyrose]

Jack knows he’s lost.

Yes he did , he was so blindsided by Stephen.

[Ray.]

There were times I thought Jack might leave his fiancé for the chance to stand in the finale with Stephen.

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[millyrose]

Never liked Rachel or Stephen i found them really smug, but fair play to them they played a good game. and what helped them to win was that the faithfuls was so dumb and blindsided by them. gutted it's finished i really loved it, can't wait for the next one. I will start watching the Irish one. Well done Rachel and Stephen.

[Livia]

Dreadful result. Would have rather Stephen had taken the lot.

It's a strange situation, really... The biggest liar, the biggest fraud, wins.

[bots]

Dreadful result. Would have rather Stephen had taken the lot.

It's a strange situation, really... The biggest liar, the biggest fraud, wins.

like her or hate her, Rachel was a major force in this series. She was at the centre of most things that happened. That doesn't mean she should have won, but it's impossible for me to say she didn't deserve it

[Livia]

like her or hate her, Rachel was a major force in this series. She was at the centre of most things that happened. That doesn't mean she should have won, but it's impossible for me to say she didn't deserve it

She really looks like my ex- sister in law who was a lying, hard-faced, callous bitch. My judgement is coloured, I admit it.

[Strictly Jake]

Im surprised Alan Carr wasnt a guest on any uncloaked this series?!

[Benjamin]

Im surprised Alan Carr wasnt a guest on any uncloaked this series?!

Wasn’t he filming his TV series and the thing with Amanda Holden during the filming of this one, I think that’s why.

[millyrose]

Wasn’t he filming his TV series and the thing with Amanda Holden during the filming of this one, I think that’s why.

When was it all filmed,

[Benjamin]

When was it all filmed,

During the early summer last year I believe.

[Mystic Mock]

like her or hate her, Rachel was a major force in this series. She was at the centre of most things that happened. That doesn't mean she should have won, but it's impossible for me to say she didn't deserve it

I agree tbh.

I still feel sad for Jade and James, but Rachel was a great contestant imo and contestants like her is who BB should be trying to snap up imo, instead of people like Nancy and Elsa.:umm2:

[Mystic Mock]

Does anyone know of any of the Contestants Twitter accounts?

I was thinking about following the ones that are on there.

[Ray.]

The Traitors finalist Jack Butler reveals producers were forced to 'pull him into a room to calm down' after his furious response to being banished

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15494671/The-Traitors-finalist-Jack-Butler-producers-pull-room-calm.html

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[bots]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15494671/The-Traitors-finalist-Jack-Butler-producers-pull-room-calm.html

https://c.tenor.com/JOgsEKs2eesAAAAC/tenor.gif

funny that his biggest moment on the series wasn't televised :laugh:

[bots]

The series finale averaged 9.4m with a peak of 9.6m and an audience share of 54.9 per cent.

This is the biggest overnight audience across the market since the final episode of The Celebrity Traitors in November 2025 and makes it the most watched overnight audience of the civilian version of the series ever.

[BBXX]

It's a powerhouse. Kind of reminds me of Bake Off's BBC days.

[Mystic Mock]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15494671/The-Traitors-finalist-Jack-Butler-producers-pull-room-calm.html

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Tbf, I could tell on the clip of him in the Confessional on Uncloaked that he looked a bit pissed off at the time.:laugh:

Tbf though, at least he calmed down about it and isn't resenting Stephen and Rachel over it.

[millyrose]

During the early summer last year I believe.

Wow that long ago, how on earth did they manage to keep it a secret, well i suppose they were good liar's :laugh:

[millyrose]

Was uncloaked also filmed back then.

[Mystic Mock]

Was uncloaked also filmed back then.

I have no clue tbh.

[Shaun]

Just saw a report that Rachel's mother has passed away a few days after the final...

I don't think participants of competition shows receive their prize money until the show has aired, so unfortunately that may mean that she didn't quite get to fulfil her wish to help her mum (who I believe she said was diagnosed with Parkinson's in her 40s) :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdq2nlgz6jo

The winner of the latest series of The Traitors has shared the news of the passing of her mother.

Writing on Instagram, Rachel Duffy said she was "heartbroken" at the death of her "beautiful wee mummy".

On Friday, she became the first female Traitor to win the BBC show.

Throughout the series, Duffy spoke about her mum's battle with Parkinson's Disease and also dementia.

During the show, Duffy from Newry in Northern Ireland, had said she wanted to take her mum on holiday to create memories.

Speaking to BBC News NI following her win, she said she was looking forward to treating her family, and her mum in particular.

"I rang my mummy this morning… I can't wait to come home and give her a big hug and say what will we do?"

"Anything you want let's go do it. As long as I get to spoil my family that's all I care about," she added.

"She [Rachel's mum] didn't get all the twists and the turns but she's enjoyed watching it. She's very proud."

Duffy, as well as her co-traitor Stephen, managed to win the competition in Friday night's final to take home half of the show's £95,750 prize pot.

Rachel opened up about her mum during her time on the show, and in the final episode, she became emotional as she talked about how she wanted to spend the prize money making memories with her family.

"When you know her [Rachel's mum] memories are going and you have an opportunity to help her create the nicest ones ever, that is very precious," she said.

Speaking after the final, Rachel's sister Joanne said how she wished to spend her winnings showed her sister's true character.

"Because Rachel wanted to get in there and get that money for mummy and what she wanted it for meant that it meant so much more than just the money."

[bots]

life can be an absolute **** sometimes

[millyrose]

Just saw a report that Rachel's mother has passed away a few days after the final...

I don't think participants of competition shows receive their prize money until the show has aired, so unfortunately that may mean that she didn't quite get to fulfil her wish to help her mum (who I believe she said was diagnosed with Parkinson's in her 40s) :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdq2nlgz6jo

That is so sad, my heart goes out to her.

[Strictly Jake]

Its so sad

[Benjamin]

Awww, that’s is so sad. And just after she won. :(

[Mystic Mock]

life can be an absolute **** sometimes

100% Agree.

RIP to Rachel's Mother.

[Vanessa]

Happy Rachel and Stephen won, they played a blinder.

[Ray.]

Let's hope she can at least take some comfort and pride in having won for the purposes of bettering her mother's last few years, even if fate didn't quite allow for her to fully realise that ambition.

[Ammi]

Just saw a report that Rachel's mother has passed away a few days after the final...

I don't think participants of competition shows receive their prize money until the show has aired, so unfortunately that may mean that she didn't quite get to fulfil her wish to help her mum (who I believe she said was diagnosed with Parkinson's in her 40s) :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdq2nlgz6jo

…that’s just so terribly sad…</3…her mom was also diagnosed with Dementia just recently as well as her Parkinson’s disease, I think Rachel said…she wanted to give her that holiday and those memories while she was still able to have memories..although the time wasn’t there to do that and to give that holiday, she said how proud and happy her mom was in watching her on Traitors…so she had filled her with all of the beautiful memories she needed, really…:love:…very sad and I’m so glad that her mom was able to see her daughter win…