Madeleine McCann [Police 'looking at eight important new leads']

[Zippy]

Thing is.. if I accidently killed my child. I wouldn't want to be in the spotlight like Gerry and Kate are. I would want to be left alone and carry out my devastation of "losing my child" indoors away from the media. I couldn't keep up with lieing like the Mccann's are doing now. They must be good liars?? I don't know....

but this isnt something they can back away from quietly. If theyre innocent then they need to keep her story alive to make sure people are still looking out for her. Last thing they would want is for her to be forgotten by the media.

And if they killed her they have to still act like theyre doing the above to stop suspicion. So its a catch22 really.

[Beastie]

but this isnt something they can back away from quietly. If theyre innocent then they need to keep her story alive to make sure people are still looking out for her. Last thing they would want is for her to be forgotten by the media.

And if they killed her they have to still act like theyre doing the above to stop suspicion. So its a catch22 really.

Ahh true. Well I would be ****ed then!! lol

I do feel sorry for them too. If they accidently killed her. I find it sad.. if they did.. why not just own up?? :S

She must have died a few hours in advance before 10pm when Kate claimed she was missing. I think they would have needed time to do what they could with the body and that!

Or maybe they were hoping for someone to abduct her while she was already dead?

[InOne]

Ahh true. Well I would be ****ed then!! lol

I do feel sorry for them too. If they accidently killed her. I find it sad.. if they did.. why not just own up?? :S

She must have died a few hours in advance before 10pm when Kate claimed she was missing. I think they would have needed time to do what they could with the body and that!

Or maybe they were hoping for someone to abduct her while she was already dead?

You'd have to have a heart of stone to think that o.o

[Vicky.]

Ahh true. Well I would be ****ed then!! lol

I do feel sorry for them too. If they accidently killed her. I find it sad.. if they did.. why not just own up?? :S

She must have died a few hours in advance before 10pm when Kate claimed she was missing. I think they would have needed time to do what they could with the body and that!

Or maybe they were hoping for someone to abduct her while she was already dead?
Because they would be put in prison, and they have to think of their other kids?

[Beastie]

You'd have to have a heart of stone to think that o.o

Oh god. Sorry Joe Joe! It's a theory!

I am a bit scared talking about this. I keep thinking someone is out of my window now. Eek.

[Beastie]

Because they would be put in prison, and they have to think of their other kids?

True. But I remember in the UK.. someone accidently dropped a TV downstairs and killed their child. I don't think they went to jail? If they owned up about the accidental death.. they could have been let off.

[InOne]

Oh god. Sorry Joe Joe! It's a theory!

I am a bit scared talking about this. I keep thinking someone is out of my window now. Eek.

It's just sort of unlikely that both parents are Sociopaths lol

[Zippy]

Or maybe they were hoping for someone to abduct her while she was already dead?

LOLz. Now youre going for a 2in1 special at 1000/1 odds. She was murdered by her parents AND then abducted too!

I think people should also remember that had they been found guilty they would go to prison and their other children would have their parents snatched away from them. So maybe its for the best the way its turned out.

I think the guilt alone would be torture enough without being in a prison cell.

[Kerry]

You don't go to jail for accidental death. Well, not here anyway. Yep it'd go to court and all that crap but if it was truly accidental, they'd not face jail.

[Beastie]

Four Year Old Girl Killed By TV

2:44pm UK, Monday December 29, 2008

A four-year-old girl died after her father dropped a television on her head causing "a catastrophic brain injury", an inquest has heard.


Emily died in hospital the day after the tragic accident


The accident happened on Christmas Eve at the family's home in Wrexham as he was carrying the "heavy, deep, bulky" widescreen downstairs.

Robert Hughes was planning to install the old TV in the children's play area, having just bought a new one.

Unbeknown to Mr Hughes, his daughter Emily was lying on her stomach at the foot of the stairs as he made his way down.

In a report police said the design engineer accidentally bumped into her, dropping the TV and pinning her head down.

It said: "Mr Hughes stubbed his foot on the child and fell forward with the large television unit.

"He completely lost balance, fell and tried to push the TV away from the child realising she was there but it landed on her head."



This will always be a difficult time in the future with every Christmas. It is every parent's worst nightmare for their child's funeral to take place before their own.
Coroner at Emily Hughes inquest



Mr Hughes immediately removed the television and carried Emily into the kitchen where his wife Louise, a youth co-ordinator, phoned for an ambulance.

The child was rushed to Wrexham Maelor Hospital and transferred to Liverpool's Alder Hey Hospital later that evening suffering from a lack of blood and oxygen to the brain.

Consultant Dr Jane Ratcliffe said her head was fractured in the accident. She was certified dead at 10.10pm on Christmas Day.

Coroner Andre Rebello recorded a verdict of accidental death, saying: "I hope the family can recover from this tragedy and celebrate the joy of Emily's life.

"Emily will not have suffered and not have known about this injury."


Source: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Girl-4-Killed-When-Dad-Accidentally-Drops-Widescreen-TV-On-Her-Head/Article/200812415195254


It doesn't say that the dad went to jail. A bloody awful accident though.

[Zippy]

You don't go to jail for accidental death. Well, not here anyway. Yep it'd go to court and all that crap but if it was truly accidental, they'd not face jail.

but you do for manslaughter and there's a very thin line sometimes. It comes down to judgement. If they accidentally overdosed her then that could easily be classed as manslaughter.

[Kerry]

but you do for manslaughter and there's a very thin line sometimes. It comes down to judgement. If they accidentally overdosed her then that could easily be classed as manslaughter.

They're both doctors. Highly unlikely

[Zippy]

They're both doctors. Highly unlikely

well that could also be why they felt the need to lie. I mean, who'd believe 2 doctors would give the wrong dosage to a child?

but however she died they could have just panicked and then got stuck with their story.

[Kerry]

well that could also be why they felt the need to lie. I mean, who'd believe 2 doctors would give the wrong dosage to a child?

but however she died they could have just panicked and then got stuck with their story.

:/ Yeah, I suppose so

But hey, I'm no copper and even they haven't found the truth so what chance do we, Joe Bloggs, have? :(

[Beastie]

Maddie could have found the sleeping tablets or whatever medication and took them herself. She could have easily accessed them from a table or something.

I have heard that Kate had trouble with the kids. Like she could have had Post Natal Depression..

A comment I found on facebook...

I think that Kate did it by accident.. Maddie was playing up and she overdid the sedative, came home and discovered Maddie wasn't breathing, freaked out and came up with some 'our daughter was abducted' plan.
We also know that Kate wasn't coping with looking after her kids, and wanted someone else to take guardianship of Maddie temporarily so she could look after the kids.. Kate was NOT in a particularly good state of mind, and I reckon she possibly had PND..
if anything, these two are negligent.. leaving your sleeping children alone in an unsecured apartment in a foreign country? if it had been a working class woman, she would be in jail right now, the classist attitude is clear and its ****ing disgusting.. Arrest the pair of em!

Source: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51623363012&v=wall

[Zippy]

It's interesting because its really only likely that one of them would have done it. I guess the other would be guilty of aiding and abetting or such. If thats the case then its intriguing to think how their relationship works. One of them has a huge hold over the other. But at this stage they must feel like if one went down then so would the other. Maybe its the children thats keeping them strong?

[Beastie]

It's interesting because its really only likely that one of them would have done it. I guess the other would be guilty of aiding and abetting or such. If thats the case then its intriguing to think how their relationship works. One of them has a huge hold over the other. But at this stage they must feel like if one went down then so would the other. Maybe its the children thats keeping them strong?

I think so. If one of them confesses that the other one did it. They would both go to jail for both lieing anyway!

Yeah they have the other children to keep them strong.

[Zippy]

I think so. If one of them confesses that the other one did it. They would both go to jail for both lieing anyway!



but one would get a greater sentence if any

but if one of them did it how does the other one not feel anger, hatred and resentment towards them? How can they continue being together? I think it could only work if it really was a big accident and therefore there's no great blame there.

[Beastie]

but one would get a greater sentence if any

but if one of them did it how does the other one not feel anger, hatred and resentment towards them? How can they continue being together? I think it could only work if it really was a big accident and therefore there's no great blame there.

Yeah. Maybe they both killed her by accident. Maybe some sleeping pills or whatever were left somewhere and Gerry and Kate couldn't just plot all the blame on the other. Mmm.

[GypsyGoth]

They should get an asian baby to replace Maddie.

[Zippy]

They should get an asian baby to replace Maddie.

:joker:

they should pick a colour that matches their decor

[GypsyGoth]

:joker:

they should pick a colour that matches their decor

:laugh:

[Kerry]

Madeleine

Can a mod add the 'e' to her name??

[Zippy]

:laugh:

you're so sweet and lovely but...

you have this wicked dark streak too!

which I love btw :lovedup:

[Kerry]

Her second names misspelt too actually. It's McCann


Sorry. But if she's dead I feel she needs some respect *embarrassed*

[GypsyGoth]

you're so sweet and lovely but...

you have this wicked dark streak too!

which I love btw :lovedup:

:D Thank you :love:

[Kerry]

Well, , Cameron has ordered a new investigation (Breaking News - Sky)


I want her found safe but boy do I hate that twat (Cameron)

Wonder if he'll look for Ben Needham...... oh no..... his Mother was a single parent on a council estate.....

[Angus]

Well, , Cameron has ordered a new investigation (Breaking News - Sky)


I want her found safe but boy do I hate that twat (Cameron)

Wonder if he'll look for Ben Needham...... oh no..... his Mother was a single parent on a council estate.....

This isn't really true now is it? Ben's mum received a letter from Cameron in February this year which she described as the most sympathetic and understanding one she had received from a Government. He has pledged all the government's support to South Yorkshire Police in their investigation and is pressing the Greek Authorities for all information that is required. So please don't play the class card unless you are going to be accurate about the facts. Seems Gordon Brown from the sharing, caring Labour Government who purportedly represent the working classes, ignored her pleas for support, but Cameron most certainly has NOT.

[joeysteele]

They need to draw attention back to it so kate can sell her books ;)

Very sadly, I think you have a valid point there.once all goes quiet,they both come out again to ignite the issue with something else.
It smells this case, very bad too.

[Livia]

Of course they keep reigniting the issue. Of course they plug the book and get their faces in to the papers, it's the only way they can keep their missing daughter on the front page, and while she in the news there's more chance that they will find her if she is still alive. They obviously work very hard at keeping their daughter's name in the papers and it's a positive thing.

I'm quite a cynical person. However, to say the McCanns are only doing this to sell their book is beyond cynical. I can't imagine what this couple have gone through. My neice is the same age as Maddie and to have had her missing for half her life would be enough to drive you insane.

[Lee.]

Of course they keep reigniting the issue. Of course they plug the book and get their faces in to the papers, it's the only way they can keep their missing daughter on the front page, and while she in the news there's more chance that they will find her if she is still alive. They obviously work very hard at keeping their daughter's name in the papers and it's a positive thing.

I'm quite a cynical person. However, to say the McCanns are only doing this to sell their book is beyond cynical. I can't imagine what this couple have gone through. My neice is the same age as Maddie and to have had her missing for half her life would be enough to drive you insane.

I agree wholeheartedly with this whole post

[Niamh.]

Of course they keep reigniting the issue. Of course they plug the book and get their faces in to the papers, it's the only way they can keep their missing daughter on the front page, and while she in the news there's more chance that they will find her if she is still alive. They obviously work very hard at keeping their daughter's name in the papers and it's a positive thing.

I'm quite a cynical person. However, to say the McCanns are only doing this to sell their book is beyond cynical. I can't imagine what this couple have gone through. My neice is the same age as Maddie and to have had her missing for half her life would be enough to drive you insane.

I agree, If it was my child I would never stop looking for her or talking about her or publicizing it. I doubt any parent would disagree.

[arista]

Sure
but its not a lost child here.

To much of them on the TV is wrong

[Angus]

I agree, If it was my child I would never stop looking for her or talking about her or publicizing it. I doubt any parent would disagree.

Absolutely right. Those who have never had a child have no idea how powerful and overwhelming a bond it can be, and if it were me, i would be bombarding the press and other media persistently and forever to keep my missing child in the news, in the hope that someone, somewhere might be able to provide even the tiniest clue.

To suggest that Maddie's parents are doing this for personal gain is a scurrilous, offensive and totally unfounded accusation.

[joeysteele]

Livia,Happyland,Angus58 and Niamh are making me think my position on this one too,I think the case smells but no one knows the pain and rightly or wrong guilt feelings people may have inside for whatever reasons.

I guess if they had and did just let it slide,people would say they didn't care about Madeline then.

Indeed, you 4 above have made me think hard about this one again.

[InOne]

Absolutely right. Those who have never had a child have no idea how powerful and overwhelming a bond it can be, and if it were me, i would be bombarding the press and other media persistently and forever to keep my missing child in the news, in the hope that someone, somewhere might be able to provide even the tiniest clue.

To suggest that Maddie's parents are doing this for personal gain is a scurrilous, offensive and totally unfounded accusation.

You've still ignored all my points and gone back to your moral highground position :bored:

[Niamh.]

You've still ignored all my points and gone back to your moral highground position :bored:

What were your points Joe?

[InOne]

What were your points Joe?

Read back in the thread :tongue:

[Callum]

Really hope they get some closure with this new investigation. Even if she is dead which I think is a strong possibility now at least they will know that there's no more they can do. I would love to see "Maddie found at last!" on the news one day but I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Feel sorry for the parents, I personally feel that they have nothing to do with this and that the press have given them a bad image and reputation.

[Niamh.]

Read back in the thread :tongue:

lol, I'm lazy:tongue: ..............alright then:joker:

[Niamh.]

Yes but my point was by doing all that she is neglecting her other kids. They might end up growing up to resent the parents.

Yeah, fair point but at the same time Madeleine is also the other kids sister, I know if it were my sibling I would want an answer too. There's no reason why she can't be a good mother to those kids and still look for answers to what happened to her daughter

[InOne]

Yeah, fair point but at the same time Madeleine is also the other kids sister, I know if it were my sibling I would want an answer too. There's no reason why she can't be a good mother to those kids and still look for answers to what happened to her daughter

I know, but easier said than done when all your efforts are on Maddie.

[Niamh.]

I know, but easier said than done when all your efforts are on Maddie.

I know but we all couldn't even begin to imagine what she's going through, I don't think it's even possible for a parent to just give up trying to find out what happened to their child

[InOne]

I know but we all couldn't even begin to imagine what she's going through, I don't think it's even possible for a parent to just give up trying to find out what happened to their child

Well maybe the new investigation might lead to something. But it's almost like she was taken by a ghost, just totally gone.

[Niamh.]

Well maybe the new investigation might lead to something. But it's almost like she was taken by a ghost, just totally gone.

I know, so much time has past now it's highly unlikely that she'll ever be found, dead or alive. Not knowing is even harder then knowing for sure that she was dead.

[Ammi]

Not knowing what happened to your child must be the worst thing in the world because they can never begin to rebuild their lives and it must consume them everyday. Maybe their other children will end up resenting them for the time spent on searching for Maddie but that doesn't mean they can just switch off. They have to keep on doing this and I don't think they could ever stop even if they wanted to. I think its the whole purpose of their lives now

[Lee.]

Yeah they have to believe that their daughter is alive and will one day be found.. they won't just wake up one day and just say "let's call it a day.. she's probably dead"

I honestly can't imagine how they feel every day of their lives. I think I would actually go mad if my daughter was taken from me.

[Ammi]

Yeah they have to believe that their daughter is alive and will one day be found.. they won't just wake up one day and just say "let's call it a day.. she's probably dead"

I honestly can't imagine how they feel every day of their lives. I think I would actually go mad if my daughter was taken from me.

Yes I was reading last week about the mother of one of the children they believe was killed by Ian Brady and Mira Hindley in 1963, she is terminally ill and is begging for Mira Hindley to say where the body of her child is, so they can be buried properly and she can mourn their death before she dies. I can't imagine what her life has been like. However devastating the truth is, you can begin to deal with it. But never knowing - well you havn't even got a starting point

[InOne]

Yes I was reading last week about the mother of one of the children they believe was killed by Ian Brady and Mira Hindley in 1963, she is terminally ill and is begging for Mira Hindley to say where the body of her child is, so they can be buried properly and she can mourn their death before she dies. I can't imagine what her life has been like. However devastating the truth is, you can begin to deal with it. But never knowing - well you havn't even got a starting point

Myra is dead. Ian is still alive

[Ammi]

Myra is dead. Ian is still alive

Yea sorry other way round dumb me

[InOne]

Yea sorry other way round dumb me

To be fair even if Ian was taken back up there he'd have no idea, it will look totally different now

[Ammi]

To be fair even if Ian was taken back up there he'd have no idea, it will look totally different now

Yea I know and that was my first thought, but its more about the agony the mother has suffered all her life and the fact that she still feels she needs to know and find the body before she dies. I'm sure Ian Brady wouldn't be able to show the police even if he wanted to, it was all too long ago, and as you say it will have changed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just about all the haters are young and childless.

which figures

[arista]

No
I am on about the Crime is bugger all to do with the UK.


The hotel they were at had baby care people - But you had to pay.


They Should have paid.

Get it off TV News
as Nothing has changed.


Yet Another Live TV News Event with those 2
at 5:30PM today.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No
I am on about the Crime is bugger all to do with the UK.


The hotel they were at had baby care people - But you had to pay.


They Should have paid.

Get it off TV News
as Nothing has changed.

And Millie should not have bought chips.

Life does not work that way. The man who stole her is the problem NOT the McCanns

[arista]

And Millie should not have bought chips.

Life does not work that way. The man who stole her is the problem NOT the McCanns


We do not know if it was a Man , Woman or Child
and that poor stolen child may never ever be found.


We do not Need it on UK TV News
Nothing has changed.

And the Hotel is sick of them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We do not know if it was a Man , Woman or Child
and that poor stolen child may never ever be found.


We do not Need it on UK TV News
Nothing has changed.

I prefer watching Kate McCann to say Eastenders.




:devil:

[arista]

I prefer watching Kate McCann to say Eastenders.




:devil:



Sure


But now there book is in shops
they can get off our TV News
unless they have some result to tell us.

[Lee.]

I thinkit can only be a positive thing to try and keep it in the news. People forget very quickly.

I was just actually thinking this yesterday; After days of continual coverage of the Japanese earthquake/tsunami, it seems to just stop all of a sudden. They must still be having a helluva time, but I realised I hadn't even spared them a thought since the news coverage stopped!

The news is a good way of keeping things in the public's minds

[arista]

I thinkit can only be a positive thing to try and keep it in the news. People forget very quickly.

I was just actually thinking this yesterday; After days of continual coverage of the Japanese earthquake/tsunami, it seems to just stop all of a sudden. They must still be having a helluva time, but I realised I hadn't even spared them a thought since the news coverage stopped!

The news is a good way of keeping things in the public's minds



No
Nothing New to tell us


To much of them
go out to the Hotel
it feck all to do with the UK

[Crimson Dynamo]

No
Nothing New to tell us


To much of them
go out to the Hotel
it feck all to do with the UK

Arista what do you know?

The nearest you have to a child is a dab radio

[joeysteele]

I thinkit can only be a positive thing to try and keep it in the news. People forget very quickly.

I was just actually thinking this yesterday; After days of continual coverage of the Japanese earthquake/tsunami, it seems to just stop all of a sudden. They must still be having a helluva time, but I realised I hadn't even spared them a thought since the news coverage stopped!

The news is a good way of keeping things in the public's minds

Very strong post Happyland, and you are right,I too had let the Japanese problems go from my mind.

[Smithy]

I wonder if she'll beat Osama Bin Laden

[Lewis.]

I find it hilarious how people still think that the parents did it. After all of the hysteria and controversy, I think they'd be glad for the publicity to start to simmer out if they had done it and they#d be relieved that the case was closed and they'd gotten away with it. By bringing it back into the media, asking the government to support them, asking for the files to be opened and put together again, surely no sane person would do that if they had done it themselves... it would be too risky. I just hope that this new support from the government will get the search into action again and give the poor girl a hope at being found.

[Iceman]

No
I am on about the Crime is bugger all to do with the UK.


The hotel they were at had baby care people - But you had to pay.


They Should have paid.

Get it off TV News
as Nothing has changed.


Yet Another Live TV News Event with those 2
at 5:30PM today.

They are on an Irish Chat Show tonight, needless to say I wont be watching. :bored:

[Angus]

I find it hilarious how people still think that the parents did it. After all of the hysteria and controversy, I think they'd be glad for the publicity to start to simmer out if they had done it and they#d be relieved that the case was closed and they'd gotten away with it. By bringing it back into the media, asking the government to support them, asking for the files to be opened and put together again, surely no sane person would do that if they had done it themselves... it would be too risky. I just hope that this new support from the government will get the search into action again and give the poor girl a hope at being found.

The sheer logic of your post is sadly (yet predictably) way over the heads of some on this forum:rolleyes:

[Kerry]

This isn't really true now is it? Ben's mum received a letter from Cameron in February this year which she described as the most sympathetic and understanding one she had received from a Government. He has pledged all the government's support to South Yorkshire Police in their investigation and is pressing the Greek Authorities for all information that is required. So please don't play the class card unless you are going to be accurate about the facts. Seems Gordon Brown from the sharing, caring Labour Government who purportedly represent the working classes, ignored her pleas for support, but Cameron most certainly has NOT.

How the flippin' hell on Gods earth am I supposed to know every fact about it? If I knew every fact about things I'd be minted

In that case, good on him

[Sticks]

So will the Met make Kate answer the 40 questions she refused to answer when put by the Portuguese Police?

What about the Cadaver dogs evidence?

What about the missing time between the report of the "alleged" abduction and when other independent witnesses last saw Madeline alive?

What about the Bible open on a suspicious verse?

The DNA evidence in the hire car that was used AFTER she was allegedly abducted?

What about the statistics that show that in four out of five cases like these, it turns out to be a close family member?

I would like to say more, but certain parties have proved skilful in manipulating the law to clamp down on free speech.

They know who they are

[Beastie]

Thank god Sticks is back! Hoorah :D

Are you working on the case Sticks? What do you do for a living?

I am on the fence. The Mcann's could have done it but they might not have done it. I was so against that they didn't do it.. but mmm..

Gerry and Kate should be questioned again. INDIVIDUALLY. Whether it's 1 question or 100 questions. If they say "no comment" or refuse to answer anything then well.. they are obviously hiding something.

Why are people going on about Kate? Was it just her being interrogated? Gerry should too.

I wish they made a big documentary on the case. We don't know all the file information and I think the public deserve to know EVERYTHING. If we all know everything that went off the day Maddie disappeared we could get to the bottom of it!

So Sticks.. what is your theory? You thinking Kate accidently killed Maddie and the family hid the body? Maybe Gerry accidently killed her? Who knows!

Maybe one of the twins did.. and they are covering it up! lol

Sticks what were the dogs evidence? Also WHOS blood was it in the car?? Did we actually get any of these answers? :S

[InOne]

Officer Sticks is on the case

[Beastie]

Officer Sticks is on the case

I think you did it Joe Joe ;) You and Sticks did it together didn't ya? :hugesmile:

[InOne]

I think you did it Joe Joe ;) You and Sticks did it together didn't ya? :hugesmile:

;)

[Sticks]

If you go through some of the older posts, as this thread has been open since 2007, you will see posts discussing the forensics and that discrepancies in the "official" version. of an alleged abduction.

I really would love to elaborate more but certain individuals took legal action against certain media outlets that voiced anything different from the "official" version and so I am forced to keep stum on legal grounds.

What is it that these individuals do not want being said?

[Beastie]

If you go through some of the older posts, as this thread has been open since 2007, you will see posts discussing the forensics and that discrepancies in the "official" version. of an alleged abduction.

I really would love to elaborate more but certain individuals took legal action against certain media outlets that voiced anything different from the "official" version and so I am forced to keep stum on legal grounds.

What is it that these individuals do not want being said?

Okay. Thankyou Sticks.

So in other words the parents have got away with it? Kapeesh!

[Sam:)]

Kate and Gerry are on The Late Late Show (an irish chat show)

[Jords]

I saw a book on Maddie in a shop window today :S

[Kerry]

This thread proves exactly why they should keep their faces in the media. We're all talking about Maddy and therefore she's refreshed in our minds. Good or bad press, they won't care. We're all talking/thinking of Madeleine

[Crimson Dynamo]

So will the Met make Kate answer the 40 questions she refused to answer when put by the Portuguese Police?


They know who they are

Please, that 20/40 question bollox is adolescent Internet conspiracy theory claptrap

:hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

This thread proves exactly why they should keep their faces in the media. We're all talking about Maddy and therefore she's refreshed in our minds. Good or bad press, they won't care. We're all talking/thinking of Madeleine

We don't know what happened really, there are many unanswered questions and maybe we will never find out what happened that night or to Madeline.

I have changed my mind over the last few days though,I understand the need for keeping it in the public domain now.
As you say Kerry, even on here we are all talking about it so I hope some good does come of all the new publicity.

[Angus]

Please, that 20/40 question bollox is adolescent Internet conspiracy theory claptrap

:hugesmile:

I couldn't have put it better myself:thumbs:

[arista]

This thread proves exactly why they should keep their faces in the media. We're all talking about Maddy and therefore she's refreshed in our minds. Good or bad press, they won't care. We're all talking/thinking of Madeleine

They have had there week
in the Media
Now they can go away Unless
they have some real news.


Her book can go to the 99p store
since it is well over stocked.




Sign Of The Times.

[Vicky.]

Please, that 20/40 question bollox is adolescent Internet conspiracy theory claptrap

:hugesmile:

I couldn't have put it better myself:thumbs:
Taking it you both have inside knowledge of this case then.

Not saying it is true, but noone can know either way. Unless you are pretty high up in the police force, which I highly doubt either of you are.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Taking it you both have inside knowledge of this case then.

Not saying it is true, but noone can know either way. Unless you are pretty high up in the police force, which I highly doubt either of you are.

Age and experience is what you are searching for

[Benjamin]

Madeleine McCann: Police 'looking at eight important new leads'


Scotland Yard detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are examining eight "important" new leads, it was claimed yesterday.

Spanish private investigators have handed over 30 boxes of documents which could yield a breakthrough.

On Tuesday, four British officers visited the Barcelona HQ of Metodo 3, the detective agency employed to look for Madeleine by her parents Kate and Gerry for six months after she vanished at the age of three in 2007.

The agency's director, Francisco Marco, said there were "six, seven or eight very important leads" within the files.

But sources close to the British investigation played down the significance of the material yesterday.

It is the second time that Metropolitan Police detectives have flown to Spain as part of their review of her disappearance. Last month they spent three days with the Spanish National Police and Civil Guard force as part of inquiries into whether she was abducted and smuggled across the border from Portugal.


British detectives have also recently collected documents from the Portuguese police, Leicestershire police and the McCanns.

Yesterday Mr Marco said on Spanish TV: "We have provided [British police] with all the documents and information we have collated worldwide about Madeleine's disappearance." He told The Ana Rosa Programme: "[The leads] were passed at the time to Portuguese police who ignored them because it was a very politicised issue."

Madeleine, of Rothley in Leicestershire, disappeared from her parents' holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve in Portugal in May 2007.

Her parents hired Metodo 3 to find her four months after she vanished.

The agency sent a team to Morocco to follow leads that she might have been smuggled out of Portugal.

Mr Marco said he still believed that was "very possibly" what happened to her but he refused to give more details.

The files taken by Scotland Yard include investigations the agency carried out into Raymond Hewlett, a convicted British paedophile who was in Portugal when Madeleine went missing and left for Morocco three weeks later.

Hewlett died of throat cancer aged 64 in Germany last year having refused to talk to detectives about Madeleine's disappearance.

Prime Minister David Cameron asked the Met to examine Madeleine's case in May. Operation Grange, led by Detective Chief Inspector John Redwood, will consider whether there are any grounds for the Portuguese police to re-open their original inquiry, which was shelved in 2008.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police refused to comment yesterday. The McCann family also declined to comment.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10773406

[Ramsay]

Give it up

[Sticks]

For legal reasons we have to keep stum

[letmein]

She's no longer alive. The parents did it. I said it from the start.

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully she is still alive and will be found.

[Kazanne]

It's quite simple really,IF they had not gone out and left the children alone,Madeleine would not have gone missing,I am really on two sides of this story,while ,I feel very sorry for them ,on the other hand they were neglectful and should have been treated like any other parent who leaves their kids home alone,something with this case does not sit right and I'm not sure what it is.and I know people react differently but their reaction when she first went missing was strange to say the least,they seemed to want everyone else out searching for her but didn't seem to do much themselves,it's all very sad especially for Madeliene,I hope this does get solved one day.

[InOne]

Would this case have got so much attention if the parents weren't white and middle class?

[Sticks]

She's no longer alive. The parents did it. I said it from the start.

Be careful lest Team Mccan sue you for libel and shut down TIBB :shocked: :mad:

[Beastie]

Would this case have got so much attention if the parents weren't white and middle class?

Probably not. However the parents are both doctors. Too much scum in this country and we need as many high class people like doctors as we can than all these benefit scroungers we are getting. The country is running into a **** hole and we need to keep as many quality, educated people as we can. Who knows.. Maddy could have done so much in her life. She could have been a doctor or done something worth while.

Anyway I just want to know what has happened to the girl. I still find it weird how the parents could have done it. Would they really be that sadistic? Do you think they are shaking and crumbling every night because they know they accidently killed her!

[Z]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23179230

Scotland Yard says it has "new evidence and new theories" in the Madeleine McCann case as it opens a formal investigation into her disappearance.

[Z]

Most importantly, they seem quite convinced of the possibility she's still alive... and it must take a lot of strong evidence for them to say they think there's a chance she's still alive; they don't normally make statements like that if they think they could be proven wrong 'cause it reflects badly on them and they could be sued, I think? I know that's the case with doctors making diagnoses but I don't know if that's true of the police too... either way, they seem positive she's out there. I wonder if they'll find her?

[Kizzy]

I really hope they do.

[Nedusa]

If the parents were more sensible and didn't take it for granted that their children were perfectly safe, then Madeline never would have disappeared. So the parents are to blame because they left their children alone, and unsupervised. I'm not being mean, but that was a seriously idiotic thing to do. Anything could've happened, and it did.

I just hope that now, Madeline will be found safe and sound, because that's the important thing.

If you are saying that she was only taken because they left her alone that night and that had they stayed in with her she would not have been taken , then I think we need to think this through a bit more.

So that night in the resort an opportunist Paedophile just happened to be walking past the McCann's apartment when he saw an opportunity to snatch a young child, isn't it more likely they were deliberately targeted and Madeleine would have been snatched at some point regardless of the actions of that night. So the McCann's never stood a chance as they had no idea she was in danger and at some point they would have found an opportunity to get her.

[Nedusa]

Be careful lest Team Mccan sue you for libel and shut down TIBB :shocked: :mad:

Yes it's quite plausible they accidentally killed her and came up with the disappearance story whilst they were in shock, but the whole story combined with the World's Press and Media became too big and they let the story take over. They may now never admit to what really happened that fateful night...!!!

[Sticks]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23179230

This bit has me going huh?

Detectives say Madeleine's parents, the friends the McCanns were with in Portugal and people known to the family before they went away are not suspects or people they need to investigate.

Surely they should be number one suspects?

Especially as there were quite a number of questions, (42?) that Kate and Gerry refused to answer. Were they trying to hide something? :shocked:

[CaudleHalbard]

Surely they should be number one suspects?

Especially as there were quite a number of questions, (42?) that Kate and Gerry refused to answer. Were they trying to hide something? :shocked:


Quite so. It has the smell of a whitewash.:rolleyes:

[Marcus.]

aye i just read this on sky news awwwwwwww

[Glenn.]

I've never thought she was dead tbh. If she had died then chances are they would of found her body.

The fact they haven't gives hope that she is indeed alive and well. Being raised by her kidnappers most probably.

[Ramsay]

tbh i hope she's dead
having to live this long in that type of life is worse than death

[Samm]

I hope they find Madeline

[arista]

But there is Nothing New
this just another start to look into to it, again

[letmein]

The parents killed her. The end.

[Alf]

This was from 2009. You can find the article on Google.

Victoria Beckham lookalike? Looks nothing like her, it does look like somebody though, I just can't quite put my finger on who.


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[Kazanne]

Not this old chestnut being rolled out again.

[Niamh.]

Looks like Ghisline Maxwell

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lets hope they find her and her abductor soon

:fc:

wishing Kate a merry Christmas after another tough year :(

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