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Originally Posted by hot2go
But BB and a lot of people on here wholly disagreed when Heavy was isolated from the group and picked on YET it's being not only seen as OK to do that to Bear but people are actually celebrating it....so much hypocrisy.
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This is so true. There is always bias to some extent - like when Renee cries everybody should feel bad and go and apologize to her, but when Bear does he deserves to feel like **** apparently. It's a logic I can't really get behind at all.
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Originally Posted by Lostie!
That's really such a weak cop out just used by people who want carte blanche to be able to act as badly as they wish but not take responsibility for the effects.
I actually agree about the Marnie, Lewis and Heavy stuff being as bad (though Bear was also involved in the Marnie one let's not forget), I assumed you were talking about the quieter housemates.
Speaking of, I don't see how you can defend Bear intentionally upsetting people and then criticise Ricky for being glad he's now receiving some upset of his own. If you think Ricky is worse simply because of this then that just further proves my point that you're holding Bear and the ones you don't like to different standards.
And I'm not a huge Renee supporter (and the bisexual comment would have been a better example to use tbh) but for me, Bear's actions towards the house have been worse than her words towards him.
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I think a lot of the time (especially on these kinds of shows) that comment rings quite true. People know how to play the game and what they choose to be offended by to get themselves a bit of sympathy and make the other person play the devil's role. It's really easy to play the 'bully' card too.
I would have no problems with admitting to finding anything wrong in the stuff Bear has done (it would have no bearing on my opinion of him as I have already made my thoughts clear), but honestly I think there is a major overreaction going on - purely because of not only the other housemates' reactions, but also because they don't do anything themselves so it looks a lot worse on Bear as there's nothing to compare to. Usually in a series you have a few storylines taking over each other, one gets forgotten etc and people move on to hating someone new, but Bear is the one who this series is gonna belong to in a few years time despite who wins. I believe there is a deeper level of nastiness behind revelling in seeing someone cry than throwing food around, for example.
The bisexual comment was awful too, but I avoided using that because it's technically her 'opinion' rather than something she's done. A dumb one at that, however.