Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 21-01-2011, 12:48 AM #1
Kerry's Avatar
Kerry Kerry is offline
Honourary Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 34,751


Kerry Kerry is offline
Honourary Super Moderator
Kerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 34,751


Default Legal ages

For drinking, smoking, sex (etc). Do you think the UK/your country has it right? Or would you wish them higher/lower and if so, what? (Not that most follow them I know but in theory)
Kerry is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 12:53 AM #2
Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,908


Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,908


Default

I think they are okay at the moment really.
__________________
Jessica. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 12:54 AM #3
Lee.'s Avatar
Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
Lee.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Default

I think the driving age should be raised to 21 instead of 17..

Smoking/drink/sex is kind of irrelevant as nobody pays any attention to the laws anyway!
__________________
http://i.imgur.com/8thdnzq.jpg
Lee. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 12:55 AM #4
Kerry's Avatar
Kerry Kerry is offline
Honourary Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 34,751


Kerry Kerry is offline
Honourary Super Moderator
Kerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 34,751


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessica. View Post
I think they are okay at the moment really.
Same for me. Just watching Worlds Strictest Parents though and some USA ones are prehistoric
Kerry is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 01:02 AM #5
Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,908


Jessica. Jessica. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portugal
Posts: 24,908


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Kerry~ View Post
Same for me. Just watching Worlds Strictest Parents though and some USA ones are prehistoric
Yeah some of the laws in the US are really weird.
__________________
Jessica. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 02:00 AM #6
Grimnir's Avatar
Grimnir Grimnir is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,565
Grimnir Grimnir is offline
Senior Member
Grimnir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,565
Default

If It was upto me.....

Drinking age would be raised to 25. This would be attempt to eliminate the booze and binge culture. The reason so many people get drunk out of their faces is because society is in such a depressing state. Fix society and people will not feel need to drink themselves into oblivion.

Smoking would be banned and made a class A drug. It is the most harmful drug on the planet yet it is legal. Why? Tobacco companies and tax. I am a 20 a day smoker myself.

I would make driver's license only available to families and specialised professions. Improve public transport. Help the environment and cut down on traffic congestion.

For age of consent having a set age is stupid. 20yo guy with 15yo girl is illegal, yet a 55yo man with a 17yo girl is legal? Which do you think is the more morally wrong? It should be a sliding scale based on age difference, as you get older the scale increases exponentially.
Grimnir is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 02:51 AM #7
Stacey. Stacey. is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: with cher lloyd.
Posts: 32,049

Favourites (more):
UBB: Nikki
BB11: Mario


Stacey. Stacey. is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: with cher lloyd.
Posts: 32,049

Favourites (more):
UBB: Nikki
BB11: Mario


Default

Driving should be put up to 18.
Stacey. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 03:28 AM #8
Z's Avatar
Z Z is offline
Z
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Z Z is offline
Z
Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Default

I think the driving age should go up, too many teenagers die because they get stupidly cocky because they've passed their driving test before they've turned 18; I nearly lost three friends in one fell swoop due to the driver being cocky. I think 18 is a bit of a stupid age to have the drinking and smoking age set at: I know people who were addicted to smoking when they were 14, although granted this was back when the smoking age was set at 16 so I don't know what it's like for 14 year olds nowadays but still; if people are going to smoke/drink, they will find a way to do it.

All things considered though, what I find most ridiculous is that one can be married and start having children at 16 but not be able to vote, buy alcohol, watch an 18 rated film, smoke, learn to drive etc and have none of the rights available to adults despite being able to take that extremely adult step in life. Madness. If anything, that law needs to be revised. Stick marriage up to 18, or older.
Z is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 06:25 AM #9
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zee View Post
I think the driving age should go up, too many teenagers die because they get stupidly cocky because they've passed their driving test before they've turned 18; I nearly lost three friends in one fell swoop due to the driver being cocky. I think 18 is a bit of a stupid age to have the drinking and smoking age set at: I know people who were addicted to smoking when they were 14, although granted this was back when the smoking age was set at 16 so I don't know what it's like for 14 year olds nowadays but still; if people are going to smoke/drink, they will find a way to do it.

All things considered though, what I find most ridiculous is that one can be married and start having children at 16 but not be able to vote, buy alcohol, watch an 18 rated film, smoke, learn to drive etc and have none of the rights available to adults despite being able to take that extremely adult step in life. Madness. If anything, that law needs to be revised. Stick marriage up to 18, or older.


Yes a Mess put in that way
Zee.
arista is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 08:35 AM #10
Omah Omah is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tralfamadore
Posts: 10,343
Omah Omah is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tralfamadore
Posts: 10,343
Default

Voting - 21
Driving - 25
Drinking - 21
Smoking - Banned
Sex - 18
Marriage/Partnerships - 21

Last edited by Omah; 21-01-2011 at 08:37 AM.
Omah is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 09:13 AM #11
InOne's Avatar
InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


InOne InOne is offline
R.I.P Kerry x
InOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Côte d'Ivoire
Posts: 37,710

Favourites (more):
CBB15: Patsy Kensit
Apprentice 2014: Roisin


Default

Don't really get why they raised Smoking
__________________
InOne is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 09:21 AM #12
Twilight's Avatar
Twilight Twilight is offline
****
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 14,425

Favourites:
X Factor 2010: One Direction
X Factor 2009: Lloyd Daniels


Twilight Twilight is offline
****
Twilight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 14,425

Favourites:
X Factor 2010: One Direction
X Factor 2009: Lloyd Daniels


Default

Why should they just ban smoking? drinking is just has bad. if you're banning one of them, you might as well ban both, at least that's my opinion.
Twilight is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 09:36 AM #13
Niamh.'s Avatar
Niamh. Niamh. is offline
Hands off my Brick!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 149,333

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Niamh. Niamh. is offline
Hands off my Brick!
Niamh.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 149,333

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimnir View Post
If It was upto me.....

Drinking age would be raised to 25. This would be attempt to eliminate the booze and binge culture. The reason so many people get drunk out of their faces is because society is in such a depressing state. Fix society and people will not feel need to drink themselves into oblivion.

Smoking would be banned and made a class A drug. It is the most harmful drug on the planet yet it is legal. Why? Tobacco companies and tax. I am a 20 a day smoker myself.

I would make driver's license only available to families and specialised professions. Improve public transport. Help the environment and cut down on traffic congestion.

For age of consent having a set age is stupid. 20yo guy with 15yo girl is illegal, yet a 55yo man with a 17yo girl is legal? Which do you think is the more morally wrong? It should be a sliding scale based on age difference, as you get older the scale increases exponentially.
I think that the binge drinking culture (which is also the case here in Ireland) has less to do with the age limit though and more to do with our culture in general and the way adults also drink both here and in the UK. If you look at say Spain and France for example, they have a lower drinking age (16 I think but not 100% sure) and they don't seem to have any where near the problems we have with binge drinking. I think this is because of the way they are taught to drink by their parents etc, it's a social thing, it's to be enjoyed with food etc. and the age limit seems to work fine there even better than here and in the UK. So basically what I'm trying to say is that it seems to be our attitude in general rather than the age limit.
__________________

Spoiler:



Quote:
Originally Posted by GiRTh View Post
You compare Jim Davidson to Nelson Mandela?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus. View Post
I know, how stupid? He's more like Gandhi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 View Post



Katie Hopkins reveals epilepsy made her suicidal - and says she identifies as a MAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Just because she is a giant cock, doesn't make her a man.

Last edited by Niamh.; 21-01-2011 at 09:38 AM.
Niamh. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 09:55 AM #14
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,465

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,465

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
Why should they just ban smoking? drinking is just has bad. if you're banning one of them, you might as well ban both, at least that's my opinion.
I agree.The effects of over drinking cause far more deaths to the individuals themselves both as to health and injuries from recklessness, also to others once someone drunk or with a lot of alcohol gets behind the wheel of a car,also though once the inhibitions go and tempers rise and then fights break out,people get seriously injured or killed then too because of the influence of alcohol.

I neither drink to excess,despite being at UNI; I don't smoke either but I would rather be around someone smoking than someone with too much alcohol and all the negative actions that follow from drinking it.

Age of consent is okay at 16, however for me if you are considered an adult at 18 then all should be open to you,if someone at 18, can be married, have a career, have a child etc then they should have no restrictions placed on them that others also considered adult do not have.

Last edited by joeysteele; 21-01-2011 at 09:59 AM.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:21 AM #15
30stone 30stone is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 34,778


30stone 30stone is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 34,778


Default

Put up the driving age, and people who are 21 will just drive like 17/18 year olds... lol
__________________







30stone is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:25 AM #16
Patrick's Avatar
Patrick Patrick is offline
V.I.P
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 40,079

Favourites (more):
BBCanada: Talla
CBB 11: Speidi


Patrick Patrick is offline
V.I.P
Patrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 40,079

Favourites (more):
BBCanada: Talla
CBB 11: Speidi


Default

They're fine.

I love how in America it's so strict and they can't even drink until they're 21, must be why they're so uptight about things.

Where as here, you can basically drink when your 16 [obviously not get served though or anything until your 18] but you know.

And the age for Sex is fine for me aswell really.

Yeah, nothing wrong with it.

I just love laughing at other countries who's way OTT about their laws.
__________________
Patrick is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:26 AM #17
Twilight's Avatar
Twilight Twilight is offline
****
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 14,425

Favourites:
X Factor 2010: One Direction
X Factor 2009: Lloyd Daniels


Twilight Twilight is offline
****
Twilight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 14,425

Favourites:
X Factor 2010: One Direction
X Factor 2009: Lloyd Daniels


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
I agree.The effects of over drinking cause far more deaths to the individuals themselves both as to health and injuries from recklessness, also to others once someone drunk or with a lot of alcohol gets behind the wheel of a car,also though once the inhibitions go and tempers rise and then fights break out,people get seriously injured or killed then too because of the influence of alcohol.

I neither drink to excess,despite being at UNI; I don't smoke either but I would rather be around someone smoking than someone with too much alcohol and all the negative actions that follow from drinking it.

Age of consent is okay at 16, however for me if you are considered an adult at 18 then all should be open to you,if someone at 18, can be married, have a career, have a child etc then they should have no restrictions placed on them that others also considered adult do not have.
I'm happy someone agrees, i've seen the effects alcohol as on people, and its worse than smoking.
Twilight is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:27 AM #18
Niamh.'s Avatar
Niamh. Niamh. is offline
Hands off my Brick!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 149,333

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Niamh. Niamh. is offline
Hands off my Brick!
Niamh.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 149,333

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 30stone View Post
Put up the driving age, and people who are 21 will just drive like 17/18 year olds... lol
Not necessarily, you would hope at 21 that you'd be a bit more mature and less likely to drive like an idiot in order to show off to your friends and act cool!
__________________

Spoiler:



Quote:
Originally Posted by GiRTh View Post
You compare Jim Davidson to Nelson Mandela?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus. View Post
I know, how stupid? He's more like Gandhi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 View Post



Katie Hopkins reveals epilepsy made her suicidal - and says she identifies as a MAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Just because she is a giant cock, doesn't make her a man.
Niamh. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:30 AM #19
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,863


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,863


Default

driving should be 21

sex should be 18 and enforced
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:34 AM #20
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,631


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,631


Default

They will never ban smoking. The government makes too much money off it.

They make out as if they care and want everyone to stop, but if we all did they would be pretty ****ed.
Vicky. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:37 AM #21
30stone 30stone is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 34,778


30stone 30stone is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 34,778


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Not necessarily, you would hope at 21 that you'd be a bit more mature and less likely to drive like an idiot in order to show off to your friends and act cool!
I disagree, when you first get the power of driving on your own you think you own the road..

My brothers friend was 23 or 24 when he got his lisence and he didnt drive safely far from it.

18 Maybe but 21 would be far too much.
__________________







30stone is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:39 AM #22
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,863


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,863


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post
They will never ban smoking. The government makes too much money off it.

They make out as if they care and want everyone to stop, but if we all did they would be pretty ****ed.
they will and the ban will come soon

followed eventually by an oil ban

money gets you so far but people get you further
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 10:42 AM #23
Niamh.'s Avatar
Niamh. Niamh. is offline
Hands off my Brick!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 149,333

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Niamh. Niamh. is offline
Hands off my Brick!
Niamh.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 149,333

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 30stone View Post
I disagree, when you first get the power of driving on your own you think you own the road..

My brothers friend was 23 or 24 when he got his lisence and he didnt drive safely far from it.

18 Maybe but 21 would be far too much.
I didn't start driving till I was 24 and I certainly didn't feel like I owned the road. Most people who start driving later are alot more cautious and aware that they're not actually invincible.
__________________

Spoiler:



Quote:
Originally Posted by GiRTh View Post
You compare Jim Davidson to Nelson Mandela?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus. View Post
I know, how stupid? He's more like Gandhi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 View Post



Katie Hopkins reveals epilepsy made her suicidal - and says she identifies as a MAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Just because she is a giant cock, doesn't make her a man.
Niamh. is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 11:23 AM #24
bananarama's Avatar
bananarama bananarama is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 7,438


bananarama bananarama is offline
Senior Member
bananarama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 7,438


Default

Voting - 16

Driving - 18 But restiction on car size until age 25

Drinking - 21...Binge drinking 10 year jail

Smoking - Banned

Sex - 18

Marriage/Partnerships - 25

Recreational drugs...Banned. Life imprisonment for offenders

Abortion on demand for social reasons not medical ..Banned. Life imprisonment for offenders

Back street abortionists.......Death penalty

Faith schools of any religion. Banned. Life imprisonment for offenders
bananarama is offline  
Old 21-01-2011, 11:39 AM #25
Captain.Remy Captain.Remy is offline
Nah
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: France.
Posts: 27,913


Captain.Remy Captain.Remy is offline
Nah
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: France.
Posts: 27,913


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bananarama View Post
voting - 16

driving - 18 but restiction on car size until age 25

drinking - 21...binge drinking 10 year jail

smoking - banned

sex - 18

marriage/partnerships - 25

recreational drugs...banned. Life imprisonment for offenders

abortion on demand for social reasons not medical ..banned. Life imprisonment for offenders

back street abortionists.......death penalty

faith schools of any religion. Banned. Life imprisonment for offenders

l
m
a
o
__________________
Captain.Remy is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
ages, legal


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts