[Liberty4eva]

The more I look into the whole global warming scare, the more I think it's about taxing and controlling people and less about saving the planet. Guess I want to see where people on this forum stand.

Also, not really necessary to this discussion, I've found a couple of youtube videos (one a hillarious parody of the other) to highlight the different tactics of the sides.

Youtube video

Youtube video

[lostalex]

It really doesn't matter what you think. It's real and it's happening. What you think has absolutely no impact on it's existence.

And whether you believe in it or not, there's nothing you can do about it, which is even more depressing.

Even if America took every car off the road tomorrow, the pollution from China would continue the carbon emissions destroying the planet.

There's nothing America or Europe can do. China is killing the planet and there's nothing we can do to stop them.

[GypsyGoth]

I think the world will start cooling down in about five years time. It's all going to be about Global Cooling.

[Beastie]

The sun is coming closer to Earth. This is why the Earth is getting warmer. The Human Race are probably contributing a small fraction to it. Not much difference will be made though if someone decides to take up a few extra carbon footprints by driving to work though.

[InOne]

Won't happen in my lifetime. So I frankly don't give a fuck either way

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It really doesn't matter what you think. It's real and it's happening. What you think has absolutely no impact on it's existence.

And whether you believe in it or not, there's nothing you can do about it, which is even more depressing.

Even if America took every car off the road tomorrow, the pollution from China would continue the carbon emissions destroying the planet.

There's nothing America or Europe can do. China is killing the planet and there's nothing we can do to stop them.

As opposed to finger pointing people should be doing their own little bit. Two wrongs dont make a right.

Maybe the pollution from China is the greatest contributing factor, that doesnt mean America and Europe should just carry on polluting the way they are.

You wont get anyone to stop doing something willingly that you are doing anyway until you show them that you are doing what you want them to do.

The Earth goes through periods of cooling down and heating up naturally, the sun is expanding all the time. We cant stop that, however we can reduce our contribution to climate change.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by InOne

Won't happen in my lifetime. So I frankly don't give a fuck either way

thats how I feel.

Little me can't do anything so why fuss about it.

If you look at the history of the planet its been through some very extreme changes over millions of years so Im sure its always gonna be that way regardless of what humans do. That said, I do think we should use our intelligence to find alterior sources to satisfy our needs. We are destroying many of the planets natural resources. They will run out eventually.

[Patrick]

Hardly a Hoax.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by thebeast

The sun is coming closer to Earth. This is why the Earth is getting warmer. The Human Race are probably contributing a small fraction to it. Not much difference will be made though if someone decides to take up a few extra carbon footprints by driving to work though.

Yeah apparently the UK is meant to have the same tempature that you'd find in Spain and Turkey in the near future.

I just wish it would hurry the ****** up.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It really doesn't matter what you think. It's real and it's happening. What you think has absolutely no impact on it's existence.

And whether you believe in it or not, there's nothing you can do about it, which is even more depressing.

Even if America took every car off the road tomorrow, the pollution from China would continue the carbon emissions destroying the planet.

There's nothing America or Europe can do. China is killing the planet and there's nothing we can do to stop them.

We could always...

Spoiler:

...Blow Up China

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Yeah apparently the UK is meant to have the same tempature that you'd find in Spain and Turkey in the near future.

I just wish it would hurry the ****** up.

Haha. Oh usually France is hot enough for me. Can't wait for the sun though

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Yeah....blahblahblah

Patrick, is that my fabulous Aisleyne in your avatar?

[Grimnir]

Government says that carbon emissions from human activity are creating global warming and this global warming will have potentially catastrophic impact on the world. Right?

So why do the government not immediately ban all carbon emissions outright???

Because government is lying, just like they lie about EVERYTHING.

It is just a money making scam.

Rule number one is: If the government says it, its bollocks.

For billions of years the Earth has gone through periods of warm climate and cooler climate.

[Angus]

Over the whole course of Earth's history, the planet has warmed up and cooled down without any input from human beings. It is a natural and inevitable phenomenon and any actions taken by environmentalists to slow down global warming are just placebos to make them feel better - ultimately anything human beings do is not going to be enough to counteract the ongoing evolution of our planet.

[InOne]

One thing that does piss me off is people cutting down trees. Cos that is actively destroying nature

[Ninastar]

I think its a hoax

[MTVN]

Dunno really, I'm pretty cynical of how much influence we can actually have over the Earth's climate though

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Won't happen in my lifetime. So I frankly don't give a fuck either way

Be sure to tell that to your kids before you die. "Fuck you I'm outta here".

[InOne]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Be sure to tell that to your kids before you die. "Fuck you I'm outta here".

I don't want kids, they get in the way

[Stu]

Youtube video

The skeptics should give this a watch.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

I don't want kids, they get in the way

I wonder if you will be of the same opinion when love comes a calling.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

I wonder if you will be of the same opinion when love comes a calling.

Either way, there is nothing much we can do. Even the people who try to help are a drop in the ocean

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

Either way, there is nothing much we can do. Even the people who try to help are a drop in the ocean

With a defeatist attitude like that, nothing ever changes.

[BB_Eye]

Nobody is saying that the surface temperature of the Earth doesn't fluctuate naturally, but I'm pretty convinced there is a strong correlation between the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere and the Earth's surface temperature. There is probably not much to be gained from us debating it though. None of us are geologists. But I would rather take the side of caution, given just how potentially dangerous and destructive global warming could be. Our Earth is the only possible source of intelligent life for a radius of at least 4 light years (the distance of the nearest star system from ours, Alpha Centauri). And that's before we can even think of just how unlikely an accident we are. Destroying ourselves would be an unimaginable tragedy and not merely on a human scale.

Even if I were wrong, there are plenty more reasons to look for renewable energy sources. We are living on borrowed time, because of our dependence on fossil fuels not only for electricity generation, but also for plastics, make-up, etc. Once we run out, say goodbye to our current comfortable lifestyles.

I personally don't buy the skeptics' conspiracy theory anyway. It's the sort of thing that sells papers and earns money for half-arsed newspaper columnists and bloggers and protects the reputation of international energy companies, but that's just my opinion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by thebeast

The sun is coming closer to Earth. This is why the Earth is getting warmer. The Human Race are probably contributing a small fraction to it. Not much difference will be made though if someone decides to take up a few extra carbon footprints by driving to work though.

Yes The Sun will destroy this Planet in
the very long term future.


And we add to the problem
but we are not the problem.


Building a Space Station on other planets
will be our Very Long Term Future.
Walmart Space Dome with Non Stop Veg Growing.