[Niamh.]

Last night on BOTS when asked who he thinks should win, someone from the crowd shouted Aaron. Tom responded by saying that Alex deserves it more because Aaron has been a fan of BB since "year dot" and has studied it. That to me is a reason why he should win, isn't it? What better person to win BB than someone who loves it that much? It's part of the reason I want him to win so much, he's just like one of us, a true fan.

[MTVN]

I don't really understand the thinking behind that tbh

[Chuck]

They think housemates who are huge fans behave in a certain way they know the viewers will like.

[Kate!]

It's just another straw they clutch at to Aaron Bash, we have had a massive BB fan win before (Brian Belo) and nobody made these comments about him.

[Beso]

Good point, but I think Alex deserves it more for just enjoying herself.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Good point, but I think Alex deserves it more for just enjoying herself.

I don't think she doesn't deserve it, I like Alex. I just thought that was a strange and unfair reason to give for why Aaron shouldn't

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

It's just another straw they clutch at to Aaron Bash, we have had a massive BB fan win before (Brian Belo) and nobody made these comments about him.

I think the difference is that Aaron admitted to be playing the game whilst Belo seemed to be only enjoying the experience.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

They think housemates who are huge fans behave in a certain way they know the viewers will like.

A lot of them do this anyway to various extents, not just Aaron though.

In this years BB quite a few have "acted up" a bit, but mainly been themselves, I know a lot of hms past and present get labelled fake, but I don't think anyone can be that fake in there, true colours always out in the end.

Out of this years contestants, I think the ones who have mainly tried to copy previous winners and hugely popular characters are Louise (I'm just a normal girl me) and Anton ( Victor wannabe).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I think the difference is that Aaron admitted to be playing the game whilst Belo seemed to be only enjoying the experience.

Aaron never admitted to playing the game He said he was going to in his VT. He also told BB that he only said that to get in.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Aaron never admitted to playing the game He said he was going to in his VT. He also told BB that he only said that to get in.

so which one do we believe?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I think the difference is that Aaron admitted to be playing the game whilst Belo seemed to be only enjoying the experience.

He's honest though, that's his nature. I like that about him.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I think the difference is that Aaron admitted to be playing the game whilst Belo seemed to be only enjoying the experience.

Bollocks, Brian had the biggest game-plan in there, play the token thick routine because he know it worked...

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Aaron never admitted to playing the game He said he was going to in his VT. He also told BB that he only said that to get in.

didn't he say it in the diary room in the first week something like BB is a game show and I'm here to play it, not to make friends?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

so which one do we believe?

Oh come on, people always over all the years, lie and exaggerate on their VTs.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Bollocks, Brian had the biggest game-plan in there, play the token thick routine because he know it worked...

I'm not saying he didn't have a game plan but that's clearly not how it came across for many people.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh come on, people always over all the years, lie and exaggerate on their VTs.

You would think that with the morals he always says he has that he would have been himself during his vt rather than him being someone else.Seems to me that he's cheated himself during the process.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

didn't he say it in the diary room in the first week something like BB is a game show and I'm here to play it, not to make friends?

You can still do that and be true to yourself, which is what I think he's done. I do think he's able to read situations and use things to his advantage but I don't think that makes him fake. All of them do that to some extent I believe, it's only human nature.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You would think that with the morals he always says he has that he would have been himself during his vt rather than him being someone else.Seems to me that he's cheated himself during the process.

He wouldn't be on the show right now if he didn't though, which he obviously learned having auditioned numerous times.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

A lot of them do this anyway to various extents, not just Aaron though.

I know they do, but the average viewer doesn't seem to like game players. If you admit youare playing it, then it's a shot in the foot apparently.

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Out of this years contestants, I think the ones who have mainly tried to copy previous winners are Louise (I'm just a normal girl me) and Anton ( Victor wannabe).

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh come on, people always over all the years, lie and exaggerate on their VTs.

yep, course they do, they all want to get on the show, they act up, create a bit of a persona, no harm in it, there's loads of VT'S I have seen over the years and thought, OMG I am going to absolutely hate/love this person and once they get in the house, I usually change my opinion completely. Dale Howard's VT was appalling, I was ashamed he came from my hometown, lol, but he wasn't half as bad as he presented himself. So great point Niamh

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can still do that and be true to yourself, which is what I think he's done. I do think he's able to read situations and use things to his advantage but I don't think that makes him fake. All of them do that to some extent I believe, it's only human nature.

I agree with you that is possible to play the game and still be true to yourself but it's inevitable that many people will question whether he's being fake or not when he admitted to be playing the game and one of the ways you can play it is by acting in a way you think the viewers will like.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I agree with you that is possible to play the game and still be true to yourself but it's inevitable that many people will question whether he's being fake or not when he admitted to be playing the game and one of the ways you can play it is by acting in a way you think the viewers will like.

Tbf though he hasn't really acted in a way that would usually make a HM popular so I think he's been pretty real in there.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Tbf though he hasn't really acted in a way that would usually make a HM popular so I think he's been pretty real in there.

Well, that's subjactive but I get your point.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I know they do, but the average viewer doesn't seem to like game players. If you admit youare playing it, then it's a shot in the foot apparently.

LOL, well spotted Chuck, Victor didn't win so I shall edit my post appropriately

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Last night on BOTS when asked who he thinks should win, someone from the crowd shouted Aaron. Tom responded by saying that Alex deserves it more because Aaron has been a fan of BB since "year dot" and has studied it. That to me is a reason why he should win, isn't it? What better person to win BB than someone who loves it that much? It's part of the reason I want him to win so much, he's just like one of us, a true fan.

I think it's just a cliched line that's run through all BB's that i've seen. There's always been a strong bias that if you've a good understanding of BB, a genuine fan, then you'll be a manipulative, sneaky game player who will do anything to get the public on side. Versus, if you haven't seen much BB, then you're naive to the workings, and won't have the knowledge of how you're supposed to behave in order to win public support.