[the truth]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I cannot believe there is support for this behaviour....
Are we not living in an elightened age where intolerance is frowned upon?
I worry, we appear to be stuck firmly in reverse here ...If we allow the dark ages of forbidden love and dirty family secrets to be the way to live for same sex couples!
Children up and down the UK are crying out for loving families, how draconian to suggest that cannot nurture or provide the stability and guidence kids need!
I do not find it 'lazy' to compare them to the BNP either, this kind of influence that demonises people because of their sexual preference, is not a million miles from their views of foreigners to me.
What is happening to equality?
Has anyone actually asked the children in these cases their view?
No... It seems it is the blinkered, new right attitudes that in my opinion have no place in modern day society.

There is no equality there is only an attempt at equal opportunity...the word equality means nothing....2 equals 2 and thats about it....everyone is different, so what is equality meant to mean? The only group we are all allowed to abuse and streotype is white htrosexual men. This is because the liberal left have allowed themselves to be taken over by the militant left, who do not allow freedom of speech and try to outlaw all opinions that disagree or question theirs. This leads to foster families being destroyed because the parents vote for UKIP. the liberal left have become a bunch of radical biased hypocrites, this is why the far right and the mainstream are now so angry and polarised. Its the fault of both the militant left and the bigotted right.
Thw words Ive heard people call Christians, white hetrosexuals on here are disgusting. yet because this is a liberal majority they get away with it, but they wouldnt in the real world.

Originally Posted by the truth

There is no equality there is only an attempt at equal opportunity...the word equality means nothing....2 equals 2 and thats about it....everyone is different, so what is equality meant to mean? The only group we are all allowed to abuse and streotype is white htrosexual men. This is because the liberal left have allowed themselves to be taken over by the militant left, who do not allow freedom of speech and try to outlaw all opinions that disagree or question theirs. This leads to foster families being destroyed because the parents vote for UKIP. the liberal left have become a bunch of radical biased hypocrites, this is why the far right and the mainstream are now so angry and polarised. Its the fault of both the militant left and the bigotted right.
Thw words Ive heard people call Christians, white hetrosexuals on here are disgusting. yet because this is a liberal majority they get away with it, but they wouldnt in the real world.

Can you please give some examples of all these nasty things people have been calling christians on this forum, please?

As a white, heterosexual (that's right ladies.....hop on), male, I can honestly say that we have been the privileged group for most of recorded history. It's about time that the balance has been redressed, somewhat. So now we have white males across the world claiming they are now victims of racism.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Can you please give some examples of all these nasty things people have been calling christians on this forum, please?

As a white, heterosexual (that's right ladies.....hop on), male, I can honestly say that we have been the privileged group for most of recorded history. It's about time that the balance has been redressed, somewhat. So now we have white males across the world claiming they are now victims of racism.

Two wrongs do not make a right. To redress the so called balance, by discriminating against the alleged oppressor is plain wrong. besides its the wrong target to start with. White men havent ruled the world, rich people have. As for discrimiantion, Ive read posters on here printing drivel like white men should burn etc I would also add what whiite men and women did hundreds of years ago is not the responsibility of todays white men and women. the law should be equally applied.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Two wrongs do not make a right. To redress the so called balance, by discriminating against the alleged oppressor is plain wrong. besides its the wrong target to start with. White men havent ruled the world, rich people have. As for discrimiantion, Ive read posters on here printing drivel like white men should burn etc I would also add what whiite men and women did hundreds of years ago is not the responsibility of todays white men and women. the law should be equally applied.

What on earth?

Originally Posted by the truth

Two wrongs do not make a right. To redress the so called balance, by discriminating against the alleged oppressor is plain wrong. besides its the wrong target to start with. White men havent ruled the world, rich people have. As for discrimiantion, Ive read posters on here printing drivel like white men should burn etc I would also add what whiite men and women did hundreds of years ago is not the responsibility of todays white men and women. the law should be equally applied.

You throw a lot of absurd accusations around. Maybe you should find these quotes that you claim exist, yet no one else seems to have seen. It's not about 2 wrongs making a right, it's about eeking some of the power out of the hands of white men, to help lift up the rest of the world. For one who believes in Christ, you really do seem angry all the time.

White men still hold the power today. Look at any statistics on work forces / ceo's / people in power etc. Overwhelmingly it's old, white men that dominate proceedings.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You throw a lot of absurd accusations around. Maybe you should find these quotes that you claim exist, yet no one else seems to have seen. It's not about 2 wrongs making a right, it's about eeking some of the power out of the hands of white men, to help lift up the rest of the world. For one who believes in Christ, you really do seem angry all the time.

White men still hold the power today. Look at any statistics on work forces / ceo's / people in power etc. Overwhelmingly it's old, white men that dominate proceedings.

Rubbish. what a dangerously oversimplified racist rewriting of 1000s of years of human history. for starters China is now probably the richest nation on earth, do you measure them all as white males? As for seeking the power out of white mens hands, a term I find racist, if you want to do it , do it legitimately not by allowing discrimination against the white man. The fact is the british built an empire due to their control of the seas and the ruthlessness of their monarchy. Its not a matter of skin colour or sexuality, its simply a matter of greed and competitive advantage. Im not remotely angry but thanks for pretending to care.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You throw a lot of absurd accusations around. Maybe you should find these quotes that you claim exist, yet no one else seems to have seen. It's not about 2 wrongs making a right, it's about eeking some of the power out of the hands of white men, to help lift up the rest of the world. For one who believes in Christ, you really do seem angry all the time.

White men still hold the power today. Look at any statistics on work forces / ceo's / people in power etc. Overwhelmingly it's old, white men that dominate proceedings.

how relevant is all this to allowing a man to have an opinion of gay adoption? youre off talking about how you want to take the world back from the white man? and Im being lectured for side tracking? what a joke

Originally Posted by the truth

Rubbish. what a dangerously oversimplified racist rewriting of 1000s of years of human history. for starters China is now probably the richest nation on earth, do you measure them all as white males? As for seeking the power out of white mens hands, a term I find racist, if you want to do it , do it legitimately not by allowing discrimination against the white man. The fact is the british built an empire due to their control of the seas and the ruthlessness of their monarchy. Its not a matter of skin colour or sexuality, its simply a matter of greed and competitive advantage. Im not remotely angry but thanks for pretending to care.

Yet again, I'll ask you to explain your soundbytes. No one is discriminating against white people. It's the perception of white people who now have to compete in a global workplace, devoid of special privileges. I also said "eeking" rather than "seeking", but hey ho, I can let that slip. The USA is still the largest economy today, and will stay that way till about 2016ish.

Here's an example of what I mean, and I'll use the USA as an example.

They have just held an election for president, and throughout that time, you had rich republicans trying to suppress the vote in black areas of the country through the introduction of new voting laws, and the reduction in time allowed for voting. Why? Because black people would never vote for the extremely right wing republicans. White people are still racist, they're just cleverer about displaying it.

Watch Fox news for an hour, and see all the stereotypical code words used about black people.

[thesheriff443]

a lot of serious men talk going on here!
my world is simple leave me alone and i will leave you alone,
fcuk with me and i will do you serious damage!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Yet again, I'll ask you to explain your soundbytes. No one is discriminating against white people. It's the perception of white people who now have to compete in a global workplace, devoid of special privileges. I also said "eeking" rather than "seeking", but hey ho, I can let that slip. The USA is still the largest economy today, and will stay that way till about 2016ish.

Here's an example of what I mean, and I'll use the USA as an example.

They have just held an election for president, and throughout that time, you had rich republicans trying to suppress the vote in black areas of the country through the introduction of new voting laws, and the reduction in time allowed for voting. Why? Because black people would never vote for the extremely right wing republicans. White people are still racist, they're just cleverer about displaying it.

Watch Fox news for an hour, and see all the stereotypical code words used about black people.

so all white men are racist and all other people are not, because of fox news, which is a news network I utterly detest and I personaly supported Obama 100% all the way? so where does all that leave your streotyped view of me and all white men?

Originally Posted by the truth

so all white men are racist and all other people are not, because of fox news, which is a news network I utterly detest and I personaly supported Obama 100% all the way? so where does all that leave your streotyped view of me and all white men?

I didn't say all white men are racist, did I? I am a white man, too. I also didn't say it was because of fox news. People hold their own racist views without a conservative news channel being required. My argument remains strong and valid.

[MTVN]

White men are pretty obviously the least discriminated group in this country

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

I didn't say all white men are racist, did I? I am a white man, too. I also didn't say it was because of fox news. People hold their own racist views without a conservative news channel being required. My argument remains strong and valid.

No it does it, its shallow and biased and doesnt hold to any scrutiny. Do you even know why britain ruled the waves?

Originally Posted by the truth

No it does it, its shallow and biased and doesnt hold to any scrutiny. Do you even know why britain ruled the waves?

Seriously? You want to do history?

I'd say the enslavement of others, and the rape of resources was a fairly prevalent factor. I take no pride from our past as an empire.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by MTVN

White men are pretty obviously the least discriminated group in this country

I would say its white women who are the least discriminated against. Theres so many laws and law suits now, a woman can say virtually anything she likes to a man in this country and get away with it. The opposite is not the case. men lose their jobs their careers sometimes their families, often as a result of a biased culture that sees male humour as purely mysoginist and female humour as harmless fun. the bias is not just cultural , its enshrined in our institutions too. positive discrimination has meant men are forced to give up parliamentary seats and be outlawed from fighting to keep their seat? totally anti-democratic.

I would also add men, lose 90% of divorces, over 80% of custody cases and in over 70% they lose their homes. over 50% of homes are broken and the children often have no male role model, at home nor at school where less than 10% of primary teachers are men.......men on average work longer, yet women have far greater spending power....a factor totally ignored by the militant feminist driven mainstream media.....finally women retire at the same age, whereas for decades theyve been allowed the luxury of getting tjeir pension 5 years earlier? yet now theyve made it equal feminists still complain....In fact they should retire later as they live years longer....women have over 200 times as many outlets to help them in all areas of their lives (include cancer, health advice, shelters, advice lines etc). men die younger in every nation on earth and commit sucide at 3 to 4 times the rate in every country on earth....

so if you consider it trivial and justified rebalancing of society to see men, losing your children, your home, your worldy goods,having no right even to an opinion about aborting your unborn child, or abusing him/her with smoke and drugs, also being banned from running for parliament because youre male, killing yourself, getting no support and dying young. you call that a mans world?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Seriously? You want to do history?

I'd say the enslavement of others, and the rape of resources was a fairly prevalent factor. I take no pride from our past as an empire.

Neither do I. we actually agree on that. You dont think there was any enslavement and rape of resources in non white countries too?

[Black Dagger]

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

White men are pretty obviously the least discriminated group in this country

True.


This Thread should be Locked

Originally Posted by the truth

Neither do I. we actually agree on that. You dont think there was any enslavement and rape of resources in non white countries too?

Well we "owned" about a fifth of the world in our peak, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Originally Posted by arista

True.


This Thread should be Locked

Why?

There is not a lot to debate on the site, so any opportunity should be left open.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Well we "owned" about a fifth of the world in our peak, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

I asked you a simple question, which you ducked.

Originally Posted by the truth

I asked you a simple question, which you ducked.

I didn't. I just don't get what you're trying to make. Ours wasn't the only Western empire, so of course non-white countries were abused. That's not even up for debate. How far do you want to go back in history?

[arista]

why

because its just you 2 poster fighting.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

a lot of serious men talk going on here!
my world is simple leave me alone and i will leave you alone,
fcuk with me and i will do you serious damage!

A very wise philosophy Sheriff.

Originally Posted by arista

why

because its just you 2 poster fighting.

Hardly fighting, Arista. It's in serious news debates, so we're seriously debating.