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Ammi · 26-03-2014, 08:19 AM

..I saw this video the other day but missed the TV programme last night..do you think that people generally are too afraid of possible misinterpretations to offer help anymore..?...

Youtube video

arista · 26-03-2014, 08:23 AM

Wrong LOADS could see the camera and crew.

One angry woman phoned LBC
and said she did not want to be on TV

Nedusa · 26-03-2014, 08:28 AM

Complete waste of time as a social experiment as camera crew were clearly visible so it was obviously a set up. Also people walking past would not know the objective of the programme and with foresight would have assumed it was better not to get drawn into an unpredictable TV programme.

arista · 26-03-2014, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa

Complete waste of time as a social experiment as camera crew were clearly visible so it was obviously a set up. Also people walking past would not know the objective of the programme and with foresight would have assumed it was better not to get drawn into an unpredictable TV programme.

Yes its almost like they had to make sure
they could ALL see the camera crew.

That one biddie that walked back
knew full well the woman with Big Headphones was going towards her.

ITN - Ch5 Worst ever crap set up

Roy Mars III · 26-03-2014, 08:46 AM

help no one, trust no one

Ammi · 26-03-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes its almost like they had to make sure
they could ALL see the camera crew.

That one biddie that walked back
knew full well the woman with Big Headphones was going towards her.

ITN - Ch5 Worst ever crap set up

..maybe it's because they had to be more visible to reassure the children and also to make sure no one actually did try to abduct them..?...

Crimson Dynamo · 26-03-2014, 09:09 AM

It was London wasnt it?

Ammi · 26-03-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It was London wasnt it?

..I believe so...

Crimson Dynamo · 26-03-2014, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..I believe so...

Figures..

Ammi · 26-03-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Figures..

..ok..

..

MTVN · 26-03-2014, 09:19 AM

When I read about this most of the top comments on the DM article were how everyone would be too scared to help these days because they might be labelled a paedophile. I do think that's a fair fear to some extent, kids themselves are all taught about 'stranger danger' and stuff, and imagine if someone innocently went to help the kid and try and get them to somewhere safe and the mother could come back and start screaming her head off, everyone around would think they were trying to abduct them

Cherie · 26-03-2014, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It was London wasnt it?

Have you lived in London?

Crimson Dynamo · 26-03-2014, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Have you lived in London?

Yes, st johns wood, little venice, richmond

Cherie · 26-03-2014, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes, st johns wood, little venice, richmond

Richmond isn't London

Surprised you have such a dim view then. Take Woolwich for instance, did people ignore that!

Crimson Dynamo · 26-03-2014, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Richmond isn't London

Surprised you have such a dim view then. Take Woolwich for instance, did people ignore that!

You can stand in Richmond park and look at the whole of London.

You cant really compare a small child looking lost to a man being butchered with machetes!

Cherie · 26-03-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You can stand in Richmond park and look at the whole of London.

You cant really compare a small child looking lost to a man being butchered with machetes!

a small child looking lost with a team of cameras around her, Londoners are not stupid! Neither of them looked distressed either they should have found better actresses!

arista · 26-03-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..maybe it's because they had to be more visible to reassure the children and also to make sure no one actually did try to abduct them..?...

But it Failed to work
to many did not want to go on TV

Just that one biddie - who walked back,
thinking I will go on TV

arista · 26-03-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Richmond isn't London

Surprised you have such a dim view then. Take Woolwich for instance, did people ignore that!

Why The FECK is it on our Underground
then?

Fare Zone 4

Z · 26-03-2014, 11:54 AM

1) Obvious camera crew
2) Children aren't obviously distressed
3) Children haven't tried to ask anyone for help, which I think they would if they were genuinely lost and couldn't find the person that was meant to be looking after them (crying or asking "I can't find my mummy can you help me?")
4) Fear of being labelled as some kind of paedophile for stopping to talk to a lone child

So yes I can see why they would assume #4 is the reason why so many people ignored the kids but I'd say 1-3 are more likely to be the combination of reasons why nobody stopped. If I saw a little kid by themselves in a public space, crying their eyes out, I would stop and check they were okay. But of course then you're going to have to take them to the nearest point where there are security guys or people with access to an intercom system and you risk looking like you're leading a child away a la the Bulger case...

Vanessa · 26-03-2014, 12:02 PM

Richmond is in London. I used to work there.

Crimson Dynamo · 26-03-2014, 12:11 PM

its 8 miles from charing x

Nedusa · 26-03-2014, 12:27 PM

I think the reason a lot of men didn't talk to these children is because if they did and the parent saw them with their child and by this time could be frantic with worry, they would naturally assume this person was the abductor.

Emotions could run wild police could be called and this innocent man could then be subjected to all manner of allegations and possible charges.

It is not really too difficult to see why most reasonably intelligent men would NOT risk approaching this young girl.

Livia · 26-03-2014, 12:34 PM

I remember a couple of years ago, finding a little girl of about... I don't know, 3? wandering around the supermarket on her own crying quite loudly. I picked her up so we could look around for her Mum. Suddenly her mother came flying up and snatched the child out of my hands with a look on her face like I was going to abduct her. Not a thank you... nothing. It's easy to see why people don't get involved.