[Crimson Dynamo]

Random stabbings by Palestinians all over the shop - I have watched like 10 videos of Israelis being randomly stabbed or run over in the last few weeks.. what kind of life is it over there?


The brainwashed kids below are 12 and 13

Youtube video

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There has been a spate of stabbings of Israelis by Palestinians since early October, and one apparent revenge stabbing by an Israeli. The attacks, in which some Israelis have died, have struck in Jerusalem and elsewhere, and in the occupied West Bank. Israel has tightened security and clashed with rioting Palestinians, leading to deaths on the Palestinian side. The violence has also spread to the border with Gaza.

After a period of relative quiet, violence between the two communities has spiralled since clashes erupted at a flashpoint Jerusalem holy site in mid-September. It was fuelled by rumours among Palestinians that Israel was attempting to alter a long-standing religious arrangement governing the site. Israel repeatedly dismissed the rumours as incitement. Soon afterwards, two Israelis were shot dead by Palestinians in the West Bank and the stabbing attacks began. Both Israel and the Palestinian authorities have accused one another of doing nothing to protect each other's communities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34503231


Muslims using religion to excuse murder yet again in the report below they are worried about some building being visited by Israelis so they try and stab as many jews as possible to make it better - unbelievable

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

Oh it'll all be sorted now Boris has had a word.... what?! It isn't?
Well tell those corduroy wearing lefties to chur...chill!

[bots]

this is what has been brewing in the middle east for the last couple of decades and those that flock to ISIS are just the older generation of them. I honestly think that we either go the slow route of education and protection of these kids or we shoot the crap out of them when they get older ... sad world

[Livia]

This like a normal day in Israel. It's a dangerous place and you're aware of that all the time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

this is crazy

[Livia]

Stuff like this goes on all the time but it's never really reported outside Israel.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Stuff like this goes on all the time but it's never really reported outside Israel.

I only find out about it on Liveleak, it never makes the news here at all

[Kizzy]

As seen with the mail this week how can we be sure the footage is current, where and by whom the attacks are taking place?

[Livia]

I can tell you from personal experience these attacks are frequent and on-going.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Co...at-Zeev-432566

There have been 60 attacks like this in October. 12 dead and 80 injured

[Kizzy]

How many murder videos do you have to post...
Are there similar acts happening on the other side?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How many murder videos do you have to post...
Are there similar acts happening on the other side?

I have not seen any reports of stabbings and mow downs from the Israel side

[Will.]

Is that Mark Byron (BB15) at 1.25 onwards?

In the bright blue jeans.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As seen with the mail this week how can we be sure the footage is current, where and by whom the attacks are taking place?

FFS - This crap about everything emanating from the 'Mail' being 'suspect' is becoming too tiresome on here to stomach. No wonder SD is a farcical shadow of the forum it was 12 months ago.

OF COURSE the footage is REAL. OF COURSE it's CURRENT. And the attacks are taking place ALL OVER Israel as they have for decades, and being PERPETRATED by PALESTINIAN terrorists - as they have been for decades.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Co...at-Zeev-432566

There have been 60 attacks like this in October. 12 dead and 80 injured

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

FFS - This crap about everything emanating from the 'Mail' being 'suspect' is becoming too tiresome on here to stomach. No wonder SD is a farcical shadow of the forum it was 12 months ago.

OF COURSE the footage is REAL. OF COURSE it's CURRENT. And the attacks are taking place ALL OVER Israel as they have for decades, and being PERPETRATED by PALESTINIAN terrorists - as they have been for decades.

The footage LT posted isn't from the mail is it?
I was referring to footage that was posted in the mail that was found to not be connected to the report.

[Ninastar]

Muslims aren't the victims here??? Ridiculous. Must not be worthy of the news then.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Muslims aren't the victims here??? Ridiculous. Must not be worthy of the news then.

Exactly Caitlin. Exactly.

[Kizzy]

What bizarreness am I being accused of now?

[Ammi]

..those videos are extremely distressing and as Liv said, this is an everyday thing in Israel../their world is something inconceivable to us...Liv, why is this not given media coverage..?..

[Ammi]

...and Liv as well....I can't begin to imagine how hard it is for you and also the hurt and frustration that it is given so relatively little attention in the world media....

[MTVN]

I think this has been given quite a bit of coverage, violence has of course always been a part of everyday life for many Israelis but there does seem to have been a big upsurge in the recent spate of knife attacks. I read this article the other week which describes it as a 'third intifada': http://www.newstatesman.com/world/mi...rces-holy-land

After a decade during which the relationship between occupying Israel and the occupied West Bank was relatively calm (Gaza is another matter altogether), violence has returned.

The First Intifada (1987-93) was a popular uprising of stones. The Second Intifada (2000-2004) was a relentless terrorist attack by suicide bombers in which more than 1,000 Israelis and 3,000 Palestinians were killed. The present wave of violence is one of knives, Molotov cocktails and vehicular assault. The number of casualties – dozens to date – is still much lower than in the past because this time the terror is neither organised nor sophisticated. In fact, there is something distinctly desperate about it, even pathetic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The violence comes as clashes have increased in frequency since Israeli security forces began to crack down on Palestinian worshippers at the al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem last month.

Hamas' chief in Gaza on Friday called the spreading violence an Intifada, or uprising, and urged further unrest.

In a sermon for weekly Muslim prayers at a mosque in Gaza City, Ismail Haniya said: "We are calling for the strengthening and increasing of the Intifada."

"It is the only path that will lead to liberation," he said. "Gaza will fulfil its role in the Jerusalem Intifada and it is more than ready for confrontation."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/1...031558627.html

So I think Israel step up security to combat terrorism, Hamas use the mosque/religion as an excuse "this is our holy muslim mosque yada yada you cant stop us going here to murmur under our breaths" and that gives them grievance to call for an Intifada and thus justifying their existence

and so it goes on

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The violence comes as clashes have increased in frequency since Israeli security forces began to crack down on Palestinian worshippers at the al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem last month.

Hamas' chief in Gaza on Friday called the spreading violence an Intifada, or uprising, and urged further unrest.

In a sermon for weekly Muslim prayers at a mosque in Gaza City, Ismail Haniya said: "We are calling for the strengthening and increasing of the Intifada."

"It is the only path that will lead to liberation," he said. "Gaza will fulfil its role in the Jerusalem Intifada and it is more than ready for confrontation."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/1...031558627.html

So I think Israel step up security to combat terrorism, Hamas use the mosque/religion as an excuse "this is our holy muslim mosque yada yada you cant stop us going here to murmur under our breaths" and that gives them grievance to call for an Intifada and thus justifying their existence

and so it goes on

No one could have put it better LT.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The violence comes as clashes have increased in frequency since Israeli security forces began to crack down on Palestinian worshippers at the al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem last month.

Hamas' chief in Gaza on Friday called the spreading violence an Intifada, or uprising, and urged further unrest.

In a sermon for weekly Muslim prayers at a mosque in Gaza City, Ismail Haniya said: "We are calling for the strengthening and increasing of the Intifada."

"It is the only path that will lead to liberation," he said. "Gaza will fulfil its role in the Jerusalem Intifada and it is more than ready for confrontation."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/1...031558627.html

So I think Israel step up security to combat terrorism, Hamas use the mosque/religion as an excuse "this is our holy muslim mosque yada yada you cant stop us going here to murmur under our breaths" and that gives them grievance to call for an Intifada and thus justifying their existence

and so it goes on

Jerusalem is hardly touched on in the Quran. Alternatively, Jerusalem, and Israel in general is the place Jews believe was given to them by God. It is our spiritual home and has been for thousands of years before Islam even existed. Many Muslims live and work quite peacefully in Israel, but they are the progressive Muslims, Muslims who don't want to drag the whole world back to the dark ages.

I think the reason there isn't more coverage in the press for Jewish deaths in Israel is that the general consensus is that they deserve it. Every day rockets are fired from Palestine into Israel, sometimes from the roofs of schools and hospitals but it's never in the press. If Israel didn't have an excellent anti-missile system there would be many more deaths.

The only way there is ever going to be peace in the area is for a meaningful dialogue to begin. I can't see that happening any time soon especially when Hamas believes al-Bukhari's Hadith: "The hour of judgement shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him'."