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Old 08-01-2016, 10:01 PM #1
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Default Should we respect opinions we don't agree with?

Obviously going with what's going on tonight... Do you think it's right to boo and hate and argue with those who we don't agree with?

It really winds me up how awful everyone has been towards Winston. Yes he's pretty disgusting with his views, but do people really think that treating him they way they did would fix anything? Like surely, it's better to show people they are wrong, rather than try and make them feel **** for their opinions?

I honestly think that when you treat people like they are disgusting for having a different opinion to you, it doesn't solve anything... You can change peoples opinions by encouraging them and hoping for the best. If you try and force them, nothing will change.

Just my opinion... I'm sure I'm in the minority though.
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I respect other opinions. I don't respect being insulting and offensive, people need to differentiate between the two.

If you can't form an opinion without offending people then you have no right to demand respect.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions/views but some opinions/views offend others and people have the right to be annoyed and angry just as much as the person is entitled to have an opinion. You can't really expect gay people to not react to what his views are. They are disgusting and it's 2016 views like that will not go down well
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Yes, people are allowed opinions but we do not need to respect those opinions and nor should we if we disagree. I'll never respect someone who would want to deny a child a loving home because they disagree with the parents' sexuality.
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This a show that boos and hisses people for their boob size, of course we should judge people on who they are and what they think. It's Big Brother.
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come out with a stupid view and respect a reaction
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It depends which topic their opinion is on.

If a person had the personal view that capitalism was the superior economic system and had actual arguments to back it up, fair enough. They can think that and I would continue to not.

But having your own views on the rights of a social group is not acceptable as an 'opinion', and anyone suggesting we should restrict the rights of a grouping on the basis of their sex, sexuality, gender identity, race, religion, nationality, ability/disablity etc is not okay and I won't respect anyone who holds those views. I also would not respect a fascist, nazi, or stalinist's opinions because of historical oppression and mass-murder.

edit: oh wait this isn't SN&D.. erm yeah judge people if they fake or nasty
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Yes, people are allowed opinions but we do not need to respect those opinions and nor should we if we disagree. I'll never respect someone who would want to deny a child a loving home because they disagree with the parents' sexuality.

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Nah I don't think we should 'respect' opinions such as what was aired tonight. But completely ostracizing someone and talking over them when they try to explain, thats crap.
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Better respect Hitler's opinions then
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Nah I don't think we should 'respect' opinions such as what was aired tonight. But completely ostracizing someone and talking over them when they try to explain, thats crap.
but this i agree with
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"the child doesn't get a choice" makes it child abuse because the couple are gay...

makes no sense whatsoever, they don't have a choice with straight couples either.. so how is it any different...
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Oh I'm tired of this argument.

There's a difference between holding views that are unpopular and holding views that are actively discriminatory. Yes he should be heard, yes he should have a platform, but whenever he's reacted to with boos or jeers or ridicule it's because he's said something stupid and wrong and that's that.

It is fairly amusing seeing all of the 'freedom of speech' campaigners never really once stepping foot into the other 'freedom' movements, be they gay, religious, gender-related or racial.

In short: should we respect him? No. Should we listen to him/others like him, and tackle him head on? Yes.

(I'm not basing any of this on the Emma interview bc I wasn't paying attention to it)
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it´s right or wrong.
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Nah I don't think we should 'respect' opinions such as what was aired tonight. But completely ostracizing someone and talking over them when they try to explain, thats crap.
Exactly. I think what I meant when I made this thread is 'Should people just agree to disagree' about something and put it behind them.... Because I think the way Emma acted was a little bit ridiculous.
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His views will never get my respect.

It's good he's being exposed for his dire views though.
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Plus the fact they put him in knowing full well about stuff he'd said and then still played up the faux-outrage like they didn't expect it
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I think everybody has a right to their opinion, however, Winstons opinion about gay couples adopting children being paramount to child abuse is ridiculous, with some opinions you can listen, raise your eyebrows and move on!
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His views will never get my respect.

It's good he's being exposed for his dire views though.
tbh

I think there's a difference between people not supporting gay marriage to those who call it "child abuse".
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Saying that gay people shouldn't adopt because it's child abuse isn't just an opinion it's offensive and completely untrue, people will always hate on that kind of behaviour.

These comments should be exposed and it's up to Winston where he goes from here.

You can't just say "Oh, I don't agree with you, but carry on likening gay adoption to child abuse, that's fine"
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He was set up completely. He was only put in there to be ejected anyway which was clear from his opening VT airing the comment he made on there too.

I actually sort of suspect that Nancy had less votes than him tonight and thats why the 'twist' happened.

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When someone likens gay adoption to child abuse and then defends that point using Christianity I'm not going to respect their views ever

I'm not saying he's not entitled to hold his views, I'm just saying I don't respect it
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