[LeatherTrumpet]

Wokery at work

On The Inbetweeners, he is less equivocal. “I honestly think it wouldn’t be
commissioned today,” he says. Because of the sexism? “Yeah, and the casual
homophobia,” he adds. “I rationalise it to myself by saying that at the time it
was an accurate representation of the way teenagers talk to each other. Is that
still the case now? I assume not. Although the programme was set in the
2000s, it was based on a pilot set in 1990, so even in the 2000s it wasn’t really
an accurate reflection of how teenagers spoke.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/sim...nt-made-today/

4 white straight males with white families and a white teacher?

get it cancelled

[The Slim Reaper]

Pretending to cancel things that haven't been cancelled.

[The Slim Reaper]

Anyone interested in catching it before it gets properly cancelled, can watch it here

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-inbetweeners

Channel 4's very own player. You may have to cancel your adblocker to watch it, but that's the price you pay for woke apps, I guess

[Liam-]

It’s like 30p Lee tweeting that Les Dawson wouldn’t be allowed on tv these days, while watching a Les Dawson special show on tv

[bitontheslide]

there is a difference between something being cancelled that already exists and not making similar again in current times. Just thought i would point that out

[Alf]

Alf Garnett is a regular on my television.

[Soldier Boy]

Bit of a leap - he's right about the reason it wouldn't be made... it's not because of it being "so controversial", it's because if you're making a comedy about teenagers it has to reflect the teenagers of the era. Teens when I was a teen were very much like The Inbetweeners. Teens these days are not. That's not how they speak, not how they interact, not what their social circles are like... it isn't relevant. It's still funny to those of us who remember being (or knowing) that sort of teen, but it's not relevant to the teen or young adult audience itself.

They wouldn't make "Friends" today either... because 20-somethings have smartphones, use dating apps, and them living in nice big apartments in Manhattan is even more ludicrous than it was in the 90's.

Although the 90's is starting to come back in nostalgia form much like the 80's - so I guess the 2000's (inbetweeners) will have it's time again one day, probably in the 2030's.

It's not "cos they talk about girls and wanking". It's parody/satire, we're laughing AT their naive teenage boy attitudes (because we remember being them, or knowing people like them), they're not meant to be aspirational characters .

[Soldier Boy]

I'd also add that if one of them was non-white or if the teacher was black but played the exact same, it would be exactly the same show, so long as there was no awkward Netflix-style shoe horning.

That said I doubt anyone could play the teacher quite the same as Greg Davies, but that's really unrelated.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Anyone interested in catching it before it gets properly cancelled, can watch it here

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-inbetweeners

Channel 4's very own player. You may have to cancel your adblocker to watch it, but that's the price you pay for woke apps, I guess

Not only that but it's regularly shown on 4's broadcast channels. If it was true that they "absolutely wouldn't make it now" because of the content rather than the relevance, they wouldn't still be airing it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.

Youtube video

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'd also add that if one of them was non-white or if the teacher was black but played the exact same, it would be exactly the same show, so long as there was no awkward Netflix-style shoe horning.

That said I doubt anyone could play the teacher quite the same as Greg Davies, but that's really unrelated.

Greg Davies actually taught at the school they used for the series

[Niamh.]

Greg Davies is hilarious

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Alf Garnett is a regular on my television.

Why have you removed the good photo
you had?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.

It Failed

[arista]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Greg Davies is hilarious

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.

Oh god, it's awful, cringey, but not in the way it's supposed to be

[Swan]

Simon is right though, it wouldn't be commissioned today at all. Then again, neither would Friends, and that's
still hugely popular.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Have you seen any of the American version? Talk about 2 countries separated by a common language, as Churchill (I think) said.

Genuinely awful and I'll watch pretty much anything... I didn't make it through more than one episode.

I actually think it illustrates exactly why they wouldn't make it now though - it was so culturally specific to time and place that it didn't work with American teens, in the same way it wouldn't work with 2023 teens.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Genuinely awful and I'll watch pretty much anything... I didn't make it through more than one episode.

I actually think it illustrates exactly why they wouldn't make it now though - it was so culturally specific to time and place that it didn't work with American teens, in the same way it wouldn't work with 2023 teens.

Youtube video

You wouldn't watch this. Its been and gone, quickly, it was the worst tv show ever created

[James]

Inbetweeners is one of my favourites. When I saw this headline I looked up the cast and found the Simon and Will actors are 39 and 38 years old now.

I also watched the dance scene from the first movie - never fails to make me laugh.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by James

Inbetweeners is one of my favourites. When I saw this headline I looked up the cast and found the Simon and Will actors are 39 and 38 years old now.

I also watched the dance scene from the first movie - never fails to make me laugh.

I dont know how many Americans iv watched reacting to that show

Id imagine at lest 5/6 going thru every episode

[Gusto Brunt]

I always found that show rather silly. Weren't the characters supposed to be 15/16, yet the actors were in their 30s and looked it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I always found that show rather silly. Weren't the characters supposed to be 15/16, yet the actors were in their 30s and looked it.

No

they were early 20s when they played the parts

Jay/James for example was 21

[Calderyon]

Great series.

Wish it was still on.