[Griffin5779]

Anyone with examples of Marc antagonizing Brian post them here

I'm especially interested in any examples that show he irritated Brian more then the other housemates)

I saw Brian whining and complaining in the Diary room, I saw Brian being really nasty and bitchy about Helen and and marc behind their back, and I saw several arguments. most of the arguments where started by Brian and he was loud, aggressive and nasty in all of them..aside from from the one time helen made those inappropriate comments (which marc disagreed with seconds after they passed her lips) i saw very little that either of the two did aimed at Brian.

yet still every show is people repeating the same "you antagonized brian" comment..over and over...and i've yet to see a housemate, a guest or anyone on the forum give a concrete example. in fact i've seen several make comments like ' well i didn't see but you must have' or ' he went over the wall you must have'

it is incredible frustrating for me...imagine what it must be like for marc..in the house..unable to see how its been presented on tv..and having to defend himself against claims when no one can give him examples..

and then he gets comments like "well its over now just let it go"

"yes you have been convicted of murder and no one has given any proof (beside you look like a murder)..but you should just let it go, spend your 20 years in jail and except being branded as killer the rest of your life"

please provide ME examples of marc antagonizing Brian so i can move on

[Gusto Brunt]

I think I'm with Marc and Harry here. I can't recall any instances.

I only recall Helen upsetting Brian, but I recall Brian shouting at Marc.

[Livia]

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Livia

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

OK there is a big difference between trading insults and antagonizing. If Marc antagonized Brian then it was a two way street.

Also, if Marc retires to the diary room and says something about Brian then how the hell is that antagonistic towards Brian?

I started a similar thread yesterday and no one could respond with a scenario where he antagonized Brian.

From where I was watching, Brian would go from zero to overboard in 2.6 seconds, turning every disagreement into a fully fledged argument. He is most definitely unhinged. As Charley said, he's a grown up he should be able to fight his own battles.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by Livia

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

you remember..but you can't remember...

so no examples then? yeah he told brian he way lying..which brian was..such as blaming marc for nominating jade when it was his friend nicki who was the deciding vote .. yes he made comments back when brian said nasty things..

bitching behind his back..do you recall this one "he is an attention seeking little lowlife scumbag prick" i recall it .. brian about marc

[MrWong]

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive

I think Channel 5 are trying a little too hard to please Ofcom. That's why they keep interrupting arguments and food fights, so they don't have to deal with the complaints if it gets out of hand.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive

Who knows what else was said.

Also those insults were hurled at Brian when he was already visibly upset at the rapist/murderer insults.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

yes..after brian whined to bb..went over the wall..and they felt they had to cover their ass against blow back from brian fans and possible law suit by brian..

you know how bb always reads back the offensive thing said? what did they have to read back to marc .. you called him a psycho..thats it...

people use the word psycho all time "my girlfriend is a psycho" it is not the horrible offense people make it out to be...it simply was all bb had

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

yes..after brian whined to bb..went over the wall..and they felt they had to cover their ass against blow back from brian fans and possible law suit by brian..

you know how bb always reads back the offensive thing said? what did they have to read back to marc .. you called him a psycho..thats it...

people use the word psycho all time "my girlfriend is a psycho" it is not the horrible offense people make it out to be...it simply was all bb had

He was obviously goading Brian, when it was already clear that the rapist/murderer insults had upset him.

[Vicky.]

He continually challenged lies that were being spread about him

He grinned or laughed when Brian started going OTT in arguments

He dared answer back when Brian dragged his name into an argument

He called Brian a psycho while he was behaving erratically

And he splashed him in the pool...

Hope this answers your question

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

He continually challenged lies that were being spread about him

He grinned or laughed when Brian started going OTT in arguments

He dared answer back when Brian dragged his name into an argument

He called Brian a psycho while he was behaving erratically

And he splashed him in the pool...

Hope this answers your question

I must have missd the splashing in the pool,was Brian annoyed because he got a bit wet?

[Tarryn]

With regards to Brian Helen did 90% of the horrible stuff.
Most of which were very personal & nasty.
I think what annoys people with Marc is the absolute joy he seemed to show when Helen was saying it. Especially with the Murderer/Rapist comments.
Marc is losing his temper because he wants specifics but no one can give them to him where Brian is concerned.
Most HM's are using Brian to vent their anger at Marc's attacks on them individually.
I wish the HM's would stand up to him & be honest but most of them still look to scared to do that.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

With regards to Brian Helen did 90% of the horrible stuff.
Most of which were very personal & nasty.
I think what annoys people with Marc is the absolute joy he seemed to show when Helen was saying it. Especially with the Murderer/Rapist comments.
Marc is losing his temper because he wants specifics but no one can give them to him where Brian is concerned.
Most HM's are using Brian to vent their anger at Marc's attacks on them individually.
I wish the HM's would stand up to him & be honest but most of them still look to scared to do that.

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

He also told her to calm down..

Which some have for some reason interpreted as him saying 'don't calm down' which makes absolutely no sense. 'Keep going' or something, but when have you ever heard 'don't calm down' be said in support while someone is having an argument

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

Watch again. He was practically pissing himself with delight.
I detest Marc but I am standing up for him with regards to last night episode.
Most of the Brian saga was Helen's fault.
No person in that house had the guts to really stand up to her about what she did/said so they are placing it all on Marc.

[Fendertele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I must have missd the splashing in the pool,was Brian annoyed because he got a bit wet?

Brian then demands his straighteners, and some 'Frizz-ease' because a bit of pool water splashed on his hair...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Fendertele

Brian then demands his straighteners, and some 'Frizz-ease' because a bit of pool water splashed on his hair...

[JTM45]

Anyone who's been watching will have seen what's been going on and if you're in the mindframe that what you saw didn't qualify as Mark antagonizing Brian then what's the point of anyone telling you otherwise?
There is clearly differing opinions and nobody is going to change their whole outlook on how they perceived someone's behaviour so there is absolutely no point in anyone listing examples for you!

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Anyone who's been watching will have seen what's been going on and if you're in the mindframe that what you saw didn't qualify as Mark antagonizing Brian then what's the point of anyone telling you otherwise?
There is clearly differing opinions and nobody is going to change their whole outlook on how they perceived someone's behaviour so there is absolutely no point in anyone listing examples for you!

so no examples..thanks anyway

[erinp5]

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

it goes both ways buddy.

If that's the case then Marc was being antagonized too. Brian started the name calling.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

it goes both ways buddy.

If that's the case then Marc was being antagonized too. Brian started the name calling.

BB gave had to speak with Mark , the poster asked for examples of when he antagonised Brian ...I gave one . Mark has goaded most if not all Hms , that's what he does. Mark did tell the housemates that he did go out his way to provoke Brain because Mark accused Brian of telling the Hms 3 lies about him .

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by erinp5

BB gave had to speak with Mark , the poster asked for examples of when he antagonised Brian ...I gave one . Mark has goaded most if not all Hms , that's what he does. Mark did tell the housemates that he did go out his way to provoke Brain because Mark accused Brian of telling the Hms 3 lies about him .

They would have had to speak to Brian too except he hightailed it over the wall like the piece of **** he is.

If you want to get up in arms about antagonization, have a look at what Danny's doing to Mark now.

Brian is a violent bully. Glad he's gone but the lies he spread have torn the house down around Marc.