[Griffin5779]

Anyone with examples of Marc antagonizing Brian post them here

I'm especially interested in any examples that show he irritated Brian more then the other housemates)

I saw Brian whining and complaining in the Diary room, I saw Brian being really nasty and bitchy about Helen and and marc behind their back, and I saw several arguments. most of the arguments where started by Brian and he was loud, aggressive and nasty in all of them..aside from from the one time helen made those inappropriate comments (which marc disagreed with seconds after they passed her lips) i saw very little that either of the two did aimed at Brian.

yet still every show is people repeating the same "you antagonized brian" comment..over and over...and i've yet to see a housemate, a guest or anyone on the forum give a concrete example. in fact i've seen several make comments like ' well i didn't see but you must have' or ' he went over the wall you must have'

it is incredible frustrating for me...imagine what it must be like for marc..in the house..unable to see how its been presented on tv..and having to defend himself against claims when no one can give him examples..

and then he gets comments like "well its over now just let it go"

"yes you have been convicted of murder and no one has given any proof (beside you look like a murder)..but you should just let it go, spend your 20 years in jail and except being branded as killer the rest of your life"

please provide ME examples of marc antagonizing Brian so i can move on

[Gusto Brunt]

I think I'm with Marc and Harry here. I can't recall any instances.

I only recall Helen upsetting Brian, but I recall Brian shouting at Marc.

[Livia]

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Livia

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

OK there is a big difference between trading insults and antagonizing. If Marc antagonized Brian then it was a two way street.

Also, if Marc retires to the diary room and says something about Brian then how the hell is that antagonistic towards Brian?

I started a similar thread yesterday and no one could respond with a scenario where he antagonized Brian.

From where I was watching, Brian would go from zero to overboard in 2.6 seconds, turning every disagreement into a fully fledged argument. He is most definitely unhinged. As Charley said, he's a grown up he should be able to fight his own battles.

[Vicky.]

He continually challenged lies that were being spread about him

He grinned or laughed when Brian started going OTT in arguments

He dared answer back when Brian dragged his name into an argument

He called Brian a psycho while he was behaving erratically

And he splashed him in the pool...

Hope this answers your question

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

He continually challenged lies that were being spread about him

He grinned or laughed when Brian started going OTT in arguments

He dared answer back when Brian dragged his name into an argument

He called Brian a psycho while he was behaving erratically

And he splashed him in the pool...

Hope this answers your question

I must have missd the splashing in the pool,was Brian annoyed because he got a bit wet?

[JTM45]

Anyone who's been watching will have seen what's been going on and if you're in the mindframe that what you saw didn't qualify as Mark antagonizing Brian then what's the point of anyone telling you otherwise?
There is clearly differing opinions and nobody is going to change their whole outlook on how they perceived someone's behaviour so there is absolutely no point in anyone listing examples for you!

[erinp5]

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

it goes both ways buddy.

If that's the case then Marc was being antagonized too. Brian started the name calling.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

it goes both ways buddy.

If that's the case then Marc was being antagonized too. Brian started the name calling.

BB gave had to speak with Mark , the poster asked for examples of when he antagonised Brian ...I gave one . Mark has goaded most if not all Hms , that's what he does. Mark did tell the housemates that he did go out his way to provoke Brain because Mark accused Brian of telling the Hms 3 lies about him .

[Tarryn]

With regards to Brian Helen did 90% of the horrible stuff.
Most of which were very personal & nasty.
I think what annoys people with Marc is the absolute joy he seemed to show when Helen was saying it. Especially with the Murderer/Rapist comments.
Marc is losing his temper because he wants specifics but no one can give them to him where Brian is concerned.
Most HM's are using Brian to vent their anger at Marc's attacks on them individually.
I wish the HM's would stand up to him & be honest but most of them still look to scared to do that.

[marlobrando2]

Marc never did this.Brian jumped over the wall as BB staged plan with a convenient ladder at the other side waiting for him.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by Livia

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

you remember..but you can't remember...

so no examples then? yeah he told brian he way lying..which brian was..such as blaming marc for nominating jade when it was his friend nicki who was the deciding vote .. yes he made comments back when brian said nasty things..

bitching behind his back..do you recall this one "he is an attention seeking little lowlife scumbag prick" i recall it .. brian about marc

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by erinp5

BB gave had to speak with Mark , the poster asked for examples of when he antagonised Brian ...I gave one . Mark has goaded most if not all Hms , that's what he does. Mark did tell the housemates that he did go out his way to provoke Brain because Mark accused Brian of telling the Hms 3 lies about him .

They would have had to speak to Brian too except he hightailed it over the wall like the piece of **** he is.

If you want to get up in arms about antagonization, have a look at what Danny's doing to Mark now.

Brian is a violent bully. Glad he's gone but the lies he spread have torn the house down around Marc.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Anyone who's been watching will have seen what's been going on and if you're in the mindframe that what you saw didn't qualify as Mark antagonizing Brian then what's the point of anyone telling you otherwise?
There is clearly differing opinions and nobody is going to change their whole outlook on how they perceived someone's behaviour so there is absolutely no point in anyone listing examples for you!

so no examples..thanks anyway

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

The psycho one is a funny one as Ziggy was calling Charley that in their BB and it was acceptable,and is psycho so bad? I know a lot of people that say it,plus Brian was also calling them names so not sure that one is antagonising.

[Ashley.]

You've got to take into account that we don't see the full 24 hours of Big Brother, just 45 minutes. I know that's pretty cliché but it's very true. He may have well of antagonised Brian and Brian may have well of antagonised him back, but it's something we just have to take with a pinch of salt.

[MrWong]

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

[Fendertele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I must have missd the splashing in the pool,was Brian annoyed because he got a bit wet?

Brian then demands his straighteners, and some 'Frizz-ease' because a bit of pool water splashed on his hair...

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

They would have had to speak to Brian too except he hightailed it over the wall like the piece of **** he is.

If you want to get up in arms about antagonization, have a look at what Danny's doing to Mark now.

Brian is a violent bully. Glad he's gone but the lies he spread have torn the house down around Marc.

How was Brian & bully ?.
If he is then Marc is.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

With regards to Brian Helen did 90% of the horrible stuff.
Most of which were very personal & nasty.
I think what annoys people with Marc is the absolute joy he seemed to show when Helen was saying it. Especially with the Murderer/Rapist comments.
Marc is losing his temper because he wants specifics but no one can give them to him where Brian is concerned.
Most HM's are using Brian to vent their anger at Marc's attacks on them individually.
I wish the HM's would stand up to him & be honest but most of them still look to scared to do that.

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

[Vicky.]

Oh for gods sake..Brian is not a bully either. I am so ****ing sick of this word.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive

I think Channel 5 are trying a little too hard to please Ofcom. That's why they keep interrupting arguments and food fights, so they don't have to deal with the complaints if it gets out of hand.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

He also told her to calm down..

Which some have for some reason interpreted as him saying 'don't calm down' which makes absolutely no sense. 'Keep going' or something, but when have you ever heard 'don't calm down' be said in support while someone is having an argument