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Niamh. · 16-11-2017, 01:32 PM

:/ Is his goal to just undo every change Obama made no matter what? What a piece of s**t

The Trump administration plans to allow hunters to import trophies of elephants they killed in Zimbabwe and Zambia back to the United States, reversing a ban put in place by the Obama administration in 2014, a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service official confirmed to ABC News today.

Even though elephants are listed as endangered under the Endangered Species Act, a provision in the act allows the government to give permits to import these trophies if there is evidence that the hunting actually benefits conservation for that species. The official said they have new information from officials in Zimbabwe and Zambia to support reversing the ban to allow trophy hunting permits.

"Legal, well-regulated sport hunting as part of a sound management program can benefit the conservation of certain species by providing incentives to local communities to conserve the species and by putting much-needed revenue back into conservation," a Fish and Wildlife spokesperson said in a statement.

This change only applies to elephants in those two countries but questions about using game hunting to generate money for conservation efforts also came up during the controversy after Cecil the lion was killed in Zimbabwe in 2015.

The government has not actually announced this policy change yet but it was reportedly announced at a wildlife forum in South Africa this week, according to Safari Club International, which filed a lawsuit to block the 2014 ban.

It's unclear how the current political situation in Zimbabwe could affect this decision, but a blog post from the president of the Humane Society of the United States points out that poaching has been a problem in Zimbabwe over the years and that the hunting industry there faces corruption issues.

A notice regarding this change will be posted in the Federal Register on Friday with more specifics on what new information justifies the changes.

The finding applies to elephants hunted in Zimbabwe on or after January 21, 2016, and on or before December 31, 2018, and elephants hunted in Zambia during 2016, 2017 and 2018 for applications that meet all other applicable permitting requirements, according to Fish and Wildlife spokesperson.

Savanna elephant populations declined by 30 percent across 18 countries in Africa from 2007 to 2014, according to the Great Elephant Census published last year, which put their remaining numbers at just over 350,000.

The elephant population declined 6 percent overall in Zimbabwe but dropped by 74 percent within one specific region. Elephants saw "substantial declines along the Zambezi River," in Zambia while other areas of that country were stable, according to the census.

The Fish and Wildlife Service has been talking with wildlife officials in Zimbabwe since the ban was announced in 2014. Since then, Zimbabwe officials have stepped up efforts to combat poaching, established a system to report financial benefit from American hunters, and provided more information on how officials establish hunting quotas, according to the text of the federal register notice that will be posted Friday.

The census reported around 82,000 elephants in Zimbabwe. Wildlife officials set annual quotas limiting hunting there to 500 elephants in different areas.

Elephant hunting has been banned in Zambia several times over the years due to declining population size but was re-established in 2015 after surveys found a larger population in some areas. Zambia is home to some 22,000 elephants, according to the census.

Tourists can hunt elephants on private game ranches or specified areas in Zambia, many of which are on the outskirts of national parks. Zambian officials also carry out anti-poaching efforts and manage elephant hunting through permits and quotas, according to the Federal Register notice. In 2016, 30 elephants were allowed to be killed there as trophies but the government reported that only 12 males were killed, according to the notice.

Fees paid by hunters are also used to fund the country's conservation efforts.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-admin...ry?id=51178663

Smithy · 16-11-2017, 01:38 PM

Garbage person continues to be garbage person

Tom4784 · 16-11-2017, 01:40 PM

I think he wants to be remembered no matter what, he's an insecure man at the tail end of his life and he wants to leave a lasting legacy. I think he is actively and knowingly trying to be the worst president ever because then he'll always be remembered as such. Hate persists longer than love.

Niamh. · 16-11-2017, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think he wants to be remembered no matter what, he's an insecure man at the tail end of his life and he wants to leave a lasting legacy. I think he is actively and knowingly trying to be the worst president ever because then he'll always be remembered as such. Hate persists longer than love.

Speaking of "tail end" here's a picture of his son......

Nicky91 · 16-11-2017, 01:43 PM

Trump worst u.s president ever i think

Tom4784 · 16-11-2017, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Speaking of "tail end" here's a picture of his son......

God that whole family is trash. Run while you still can, Melania!

Cherie · 16-11-2017, 01:50 PM

ew that is pretty disgusting

Crimson Dynamo · 16-11-2017, 01:54 PM

A provision in the act allows the government to give permits to import these trophies if there is evidence that the hunting actually benefits conservation for that species. The official said they have new information from officials in Zimbabwe and Zambia to support reversing the ban.

Niamh. · 16-11-2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

A provision in the act allows the government to give permits to import these trophies if there is evidence that the hunting actually benefits conservation for that species. The official said they have new information from officials in Zimbabwe and Zambia to support reversing the ban.

I didn't even think you would defend him on this one LT

bots · 16-11-2017, 01:57 PM

i can just about see some justification on his stance on climate change, but this really doesn't make any sense. But then the guy really is an idiot so we can look forward to other interesting developments along the way

Crimson Dynamo · 16-11-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I didn't even think you would defend him on this one LT

I am just quoting from the article. If the US government has evidence to say this will help conservation then I can see why "they" would perhaps look at this. Everything is is not as simple as a headline in Africa

Livia · 16-11-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

A provision in the act allows the government to give permits to import these trophies if there is evidence that the hunting actually benefits conservation for that species. The official said they have new information from officials in Zimbabwe and Zambia to support reversing the ban.

"Officials in Zimbabwe and Zambia". Well that's okay then. It's not like they can't be trusted.... I know they turned (and continue to turn) a blind eye to poaching and to the export of "trophies", but maybe they're telling the truth now.

Everyone should be able to hunt and kill a wild animal, so long as they do it like the native tribes. Send them out with a knife or a spear, if they kill an animal, they can keep it.

Livia · 16-11-2017, 01:59 PM

Great news that elephants are now off the endangered list. And thanks to the Trump administration for breaking the news.

Nicky91 · 16-11-2017, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I didn't even think you would defend him on this one LT

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am just quoting from the article. If the US government has evidence to say this will help conservation then I can see why "they" would perhaps look at this. Everything is is not as simple as a headline in Africa