[jaxie]

They are selling an all female show then in goes someone who grew up as a man and who hasn't had the experience of growing up as a woman. Kind of disappointed as there are other women who could have been chosen.

[y.winter]

In a series the "explores" the female world, I believe it's good to put "that" kind of woman in the house as well. Nothing wrong about that. The fact that some people don't know how to swallow it, shows that it needs to be tackled.

[bots]

to be fair to her, she seems more feminine to me than half of the bunch in there

[Withano]

She grew up as a female in a male's body. She's female.

[Ant.]

... except she has grown up as a woman?

[GiRTh]

I was not focused on this at all. I didn't like her interview but as others have said she grew up as a woman so I have no issues

[smudgie]

I see it as a celebration of her femininity.
Can't beat diversity, women come in all shapes and sizes, not one size fits all.

[Scream]

Can we just remember that nobody is actually celebrating women here?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by y.winter

The fact that some people don't know how to swallow it, shows that it needs to be tackled.

Indeed.

[Jamie89]

So either she should have been chosen to be put in with the men on friday, or she shouldn't be allowed on this series at all because she's transexual? Personally I find both of those alternatives kind of disturbing tbh, female empowerment shouldn't be used as an excuse to degrade or exclude others, I'm sure that was never the intent of the the womens lib movement.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

So either she should have been chosen to be put in with the men on friday, or she shouldn't be allowed on this series at all because she's transexual? Personally I find both of those alternatives kind of disturbing tbh, female empowerment shouldn't be used as an excuse to degrade or exclude others, I'm sure that was never the intent of the the womens lib movement.

Choosing another women for an all female show, rather than someone who chooses to live as a woman is hardly excluding or degrading her.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Choosing another women for an all female show, rather than someone who chooses to live as a woman is hardly excluding or degrading her.

The show will also have men go in on friday though, so my point was that either she would be put in with the men, which I think would be degrading for her, or she wouldn't be allowed to go on the show at all (even though both men and women will be on it) which would be excluding her.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Choosing another women for an all female show, rather than someone who chooses to live as a woman is hardly excluding or degrading her.

thats exactly what it is.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

thats exactly what it is.

Another male view.

[Livia]

I don't begrudge her her place. However, there is only one Y chromosome in the house and it's in India Willoughby.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

The show will also have men go in on friday though, so my point was that either she would be put in with the men, which I think would be degrading for her, or she wouldn't be allowed to go on the show at all (even though both men and women will be on it) which would be excluding her.

Well they could have included a group who chose their gender.

Women have fought hard for their freedoms and still don't achieve in many areas of life like equal pay. If we are celebrating women let's do that.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Another male view.

**** you seem to have issues. Unfortunatley I fear the producers also have your issues and hope for the females to get uncomfortable sharing a house with HER.

It's 2018 ffs.

[Alf]

Which prison should the person in this story be in?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-murderer-moved-womens-prison-9770465

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Well they could have included a group who chose their gender.

Women have fought hard for their freedoms and still don't achieve in many areas of life like equal pay. If we are celebrating women let's do that.

This just shows how stupid you are. A transexual doesn't choose their gender.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Which prison should the person in this story be in?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-murderer-moved-womens-prison-9770465

Complicated.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Well they could have included a group who chose their gender.

Women have fought hard for their freedoms and still don't achieve in many areas of life like equal pay. If we are celebrating women let's do that.

I don't think the fight for equal pay is quite the same as the fight to get onto celebrity big brother. Women are represented, a trans woman is represented, cis women haven't been excluded here. Many people think trans women should be treated as women in society and not excluded and the show is just acknowledging that.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

This just shows how stupid you are. A transsexual doesn't choose their gender.

No need to get personal. When you throw around insults you weaken your argument.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

No need to get personal. When you throw around insults you weaken your argument.

There's no argument take a look at the comments You are stupid and uninformed lol.

How are you a fan of this show? a transgender woman won way back in 2004....obviously nothing's changed to people like yourself.

I'm guessing you call Ofcom ALOT.

[armand.kay]

Transgender women are women too and while their experiences as women are different from ordinary women they’re still valid.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Transgender women are women too and while their experiences as women are different from ordinary women they’re still valid.

I never said her experiences aren't valid. I said I was disappointed they chose her over another woman. That's it.