[Stu]

I'm just finding your paper thin logic a bit of a poor mask to be honest. You want a thread for what would otherwise be deleted stuff to be allowed carry on. Oh but there is nothing wrong with this stuff ... it was just in the wrong place at the wrong time? And this absoloutely wouldn't become a slagging thread? If there was nothing wrong with the material in the first place it would be allowed continue ... just in a thread of it's own. In one of the many subforums. It doesn't need a new one.

It just sounds like you want the chastity belt to be taken off so you can get knee deep in the clunge. Now your argument is being watered down to the point of multiple debate threads? We have multiple debate threads. All the time. What is new about what you are suggesting?

G'wan away with your gay debate thread. We want a thread where people can kick each others teeth down their throats.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Charlie, just take it to PM, if the person doesn't want to reply to you via PM, they probably won't want to reply to you in an argument thread either. Seems to me like you just want an audience to watch you argue with and try to belittle people.

If you actually read my posts you would understand that what you said in this post is not the case.

I have no problem with a person not replying in a PM, that is perfectly fine if they want to no longer continue on with a debate. It is when you get accused of spamming an inbox that I have a problem with.

That last sentence is so ****ing degrading it makes me actually angry that you have chosen to accuse me of it. I do not desire an audience to belittle people in front of. I just do not like my posts being deleted when I have broken no rules and I thought we could possibly compromise.
You mod team are such a bunch of controlling robots who will just accuse someone of the most disgusting things because they choose to disagree with a couple of things you feel are right.

I have not once belittled someone today but my posts were deleted. So you can get of your high horse and actually listen to the little people who you think you are better than.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

If you actually read my posts you would understand that what you said in this post is not the case.

I have no problem with a person not replying in a PM, that is perfectly fine if they want to no longer continue on with a debate. It is when you get accused of spamming an inbox that I have a problem with.

That last sentence is so ****ing degrading it makes me actually angry that you have chosen to accuse me of it. I do not desire an audience to belittle people in front of. I just do not like my posts being deleted when I have broken no rules and I thought we could possibly compromise.
You mod team are such a bunch of controlling robots who will just accuse someone of the most disgusting things because they choose to disagree with a couple of things you feel are right.

I have not once belittled someone today but my posts were deleted. So you can get of your high horse and actually listen to the little people who you think you are better than.

I have read your posts Charlie and I still feel exactly the same. I don't think I'm better than anyone else on here and I don't think I come across that way at all. I just can't see the logic in wanting to continue arguments but only in public, unless you want an audience to be watching. No one can accuse you of spamming their in box for sending one PM, if they don't reply to that one PM then they obviously aren't interested in continuing the argument. Simple.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I have read your posts Charlie and I still feel exactly the same. I don't think I'm better than anyone else on here and I don't think I come across that way at all. I just can't see the logic in wanting to continue arguments but only in public, unless you want an audience to be watching. No one can accuse you of spamming their in box for sending one PM, if they don't reply to that one PM then they obviously aren't interested in continuing the argument. Simple.

Well you certainly act like it.

The thing is in the past I have continued a debate in a PM and the person has kept replying to the messages, but then I get accused of spamming the inbox even though they replied the same amount of times.

Also it has happened that the person goes and posts in a chat thread about the whole debate but veered in their favour so it is biased.
If the debates are for all to see people can make their honest opinions on what has been said and then no one gangs up on others based on the proposed truth by the other party. And of course then the mods do nothing because the other person is liked by you lot and without the debate out there for people to see there isn't enough evidence to back it up. Does that make sense?

It is not to belittle others in front of people. I apologise that you clearly see me as a disgusting person who would want to do that but I honestly do not.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Well you certainly act like it.

The thing is in the past I have continued a debate in a PM and the person has kept replying to the messages, but then I get accused of spamming the inbox even though they replied the same amount of times.

Also it has happened that the person goes and posts in a chat thread about the whole debate but veered in their favour so it is biased.
If the debates are for all to see people can make their honest opinions on what has been said and then no one gangs up on others based on the proposed truth by the other party. And of course then the mods do nothing because the other person is liked by you lot and without the debate out there for people to see there isn't enough evidence to back it up. Does that make sense?

It is not to belittle others in front of people. I apologise that you clearly see me as a disgusting person who would want to do that but I honestly do not.

So it's back to mods being biased and superior now is it?

I stand by my original post.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Well you certainly act like it.

The thing is in the past I have continued a debate in a PM and the person has kept replying to the messages, but then I get accused of spamming the inbox even though they replied the same amount of times.

Also it has happened that the person goes and posts in a chat thread about the whole debate but veered in their favour so it is biased.
If the debates are for all to see people can make their honest opinions on what has been said and then no one gangs up on others based on the proposed truth by the other party. And of course then the mods do nothing because the other person is liked by you lot and without the debate out there for people to see there isn't enough evidence to back it up. Does that make sense?

It is not to belittle others in front of people. I apologise that you clearly see me as a disgusting person who would want to do that but I honestly do not.

Well the "spamming the inbox" point isn't really a valid one because anyone can just delete any PM's they get

So it seems you kinda want a thread to act as a public battleground, where everyone turns up to watch CharlieO and Salman battle it out in "civil debate"? I don't see it. In fact I'd say that PM is a far better way to iron out your differences than a public thread is, that way you really can just have a one on one discussion over something and avoiding people playing to the gallery, so to speak, and neither side will be trying to get one over on the other person, as far as I see it this idea of yours would turn any kind of civil debate into a public point scoring contest.

[Marc]

I see this thread being closed soon

[tomflint]

lmao sh.

[tomflint]

Fight fight fight!!!!

[Holly Christmas]

I like that you have raised this Charlie, for 2 reasons.

1 It's definitely an interesting suggestion, and worth a debate.

2 I know now who slagged me off with a vicious comment in a recent awards thread, by something said in here, choice of words is very revealing. Tsk, am surprised at you. Dont bother with a comeback, cos I dont care anymore. (I dont mean Charlie btw, its not him)

[Stu]

Who is it then? Because I don't see the merit in stirring the pot unless you're willing to list the ingredients. Sorry but it smacks of attention seeking.

[Good King Glennceslas]

I think an argument sub forum would do more harm than anything else. As someone else has pointed out, things would spill out into the forum.

I don't think it would work.

[Marc]

Stu/Kate if this is going to become something, take it to PM please

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by Marc

Stu/Kate if this is going to become something, take it to PM please

Nope, no fight etc, as Stu says this isnt going to become anything.

I just spotted something that was a dead giveaway, there will be no arguing with anyone in here, via pm or anywhere at all. As I said, I dont care. I got tons of support and have plenty of friends on here, not interested in anyone who has to knock me to feel good.
End of.

[Stu]

Nah it's not me. At least I don't think so. Her message is a bit cryptic. I read the thread again and I can't see anything to do with her.

[tomflint]

Round 1 ding ding ding

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by tomflint

Round 1 ding ding ding

I'm looking forward to Round 2.

[Tom4784]

Seems completely pointless and more trouble then it'd be worth.

[Marc]

See this thread itself is turning into what I think would happen.

Snarky little comments and leading to tensions being built. The proper way to ease it all is by PMing each other, away from the eyes of everybody else.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Marc

See this thread itself is turning into what I think would happen.

Snarky little comments and leading to tensions being built. The proper way to ease it all is by PMing each other, away from the eyes of everybody else.

Half of which are coming from mods themselves. I feel the conclusion must just be that the moderators are so afraid of losing even the slightest bit of power that they couldn't handle a thread where their control was the tinniest bit relaxed.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Half of which are coming from mods themselves. I feel the conclusion must just be that the moderators are so afraid of losing even the slightest bit of power that they couldn't handle a thread where their control was the tinniest bit relaxed.

Really? Because you seem to be the only one in here fighting for this Charlie, no one else seems that bothered

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Really? Because you seem to be the only one in here fighting for this Charlie, no one else seems that bothered

So my point is rendered irrelevant now that I do not have an army of people lining up behind me because I am not the most popular forum member. All I asked for was consideration and a trial but instead you just are extremely rude to me in your first post.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

So my point is rendered irrelevant now that I do not have an army of people lining up behind me because I am not the most popular forum member. All I asked for was consideration and a trial but instead you just are extremely rude to me in your first post.

Your idea would not go ahead whether you had an army of people lining up behind you or not. The point I was making was it's not just mods who don't agree with it.

I wasn't extremely rude to you at all. I was giving my opinion on an argument thread and why I thought someone would want one. Infact, you have been alot ruder to me and to all the other mods, calling us superior, robots and biassed.

[tomflint]

woooo Kate calm it down calm it down.

[Holly Christmas]

Sorry to disappoint you Tom, I am calm, its you who seems to want to promote trouble, I suggest you stop and calm down yourself.