[andyman]

Student Victoria Nye jumped to her death from a tower block just hours after her distraught father begged staff not to release her from a psychiatric ward because he feared she was suicidal.

TV producer Graham Nye, 55, was so worried about Victoria, 22, that he even predicted to staff on the unit that she would throw herself from the balcony of her 13th floor flat if they let her go.

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[M X]

Oh my god,that's awful. They shouldn't have let her go.

[Stacey.]

aw thats terrible!

[InOne]

Damn , thing is though, people can act very very well, you would not even know they were suicidal or anything

[andyman]

Originally Posted by InOne

Damn , thing is though, people can act very very well, you would not even know they were suicidal or anything

The saying don't judge a book by its cover seems very true..

[InOne]

Originally Posted by andyman

The saying don't judge a book by its cover seems very true..

Pretty much. People are able to on a front very well. And if their sole purpose to die, they will often manipulate mental health workers very easily, that is the thing about them, so trusting...

[andyman]

Originally Posted by InOne

Pretty much. People are able to on a front very well. And if their sole purpose to die, they will often manipulate mental health workers very easily, that is the thing about them, so trusting...

And those that want to kill can slip through the net, which has happend many times.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by andyman

And those that want to kill can slip through the net, which has happend many times.

Did you watch that doc 'Why did you kill my dad?' recently?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by InOne

Pretty much. People are able to on a front very well. And if their sole purpose to die, they will often manipulate mental health workers very easily, that is the thing about them, so trusting...

So trusting...balls! Its got **** all to do with trust, if someones telling you they want to leave and theyre not going to hurt themselves without sufficient evidence to prove they are in immediate danger there is **** all you can do, thats the system, if someone wants to kill themselves that badly, they will, end of

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

So trusting...balls! Its got **** all to do with trust, if someones telling you they want to leave and theyre not going to hurt themselves without sufficient evidence to prove they are in immediate danger there is **** all you can do, thats the system, if someone wants to kill themselves that badly, they will, end of

Yeah, I agree, there's only so much people can do.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

So trusting...balls! Its got **** all to do with trust, if someones telling you they want to leave and theyre not going to hurt themselves without sufficient evidence to prove they are in immediate danger there is **** all you can do, thats the system, if someone wants to kill themselves that badly, they will, end of

Of course it's to do with trust, or they would not let them leave in the first place...

[mummymaz]

Originally Posted by InOne

Damn , thing is though, people can act very very well, you would not even know they were suicidal or anything

so true, my best friend died on 15th feb this year - he killed himself. I had been talking to him just a few hours before and i didnt pick up on the signs, i'll never forgive myself for not being able to talk him around, or see that things were so bad. Horrible thing about sucicide is the heartache it leaves behind.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by mummymaz

so true, my best friend died on 15th feb this year - he killed himself. I had been talking to him just a few hours before and i didnt pick up on the signs, i'll never forgive myself for not being able to talk him around, or see that things were so bad. Horrible thing about sucicide is the heartache it leaves behind.

Awww yeah. That is the thing, people often see it as a very selfish thing to do, but once you get past the point of no return it's hard to come back. If you didn't know it's not your fault, there would have been nothing you could have done.

[Callum]

Sad.

[Patrick]

She was such a fit girl aswell.

What a waste

Poor thing, feel bad for the dad too.
I would be so ****ing angry with the hospital if I were her family.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Patrick

She was such a fit girl aswell.

What a waste

Poor thing, feel bad for the dad too.
I would be so ****ing angry with the hospital if I were her family.

You 'alf talk a load of bollocks.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Enid

You 'alf talk a load of bollocks.

So do you x

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Patrick

She was such a fit girl aswell.

What a waste

Poor thing, feel bad for the dad too.
I would be so ****ing angry with the hospital if I were her family.

I knew you would comment on her looks - as if what she looks like affects the value of her life - so superficial! I really hope your views change with age!

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I knew you would comment on her looks - as if what she looks like affects the value of her life - so superficial! I really hope your views change with age!

WTF You Tool, I also said how I felt sorry for the family and that.

So wtf, I was complementing her too.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Patrick

WTF You Tool, I also said how I felt sorry for the family and that.

So wtf, I was complementing her too.

I'm not the tool here!

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Patrick

WTF You Tool, I also said how I felt sorry for the family and that.

So wtf, I was complementing her too.

Yet the first thing you had to comment on was how "fit" she was. Is that all you care about? Is that you're only interest in life? Fit girls?

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yet the first thing you had to comment on was how "fit" she was. Is that all you care about? Is that you're only interest in life? Fit girls?

This is typical, just ignore the rest and point out somthing you can ****ing cry about.

Get over it, would it make you happier if I re arranged my message and put the Fit part to the end of middle?

Cause it really matters apperantly.

[Lewis.]

Oh my god.. that's terrible. Such a pretty thing aswell

[andyman]

Nobody should be out if section 3 is that bad.. Not saying everybody is a risk under section 3 because that could be a lazy blanket to cover many problems..

[InOne]

Originally Posted by andyman

Nobody should be out if section 3 is that bad.. Not saying everybody is a risk under section 3 because that could be a lazy blanket to cover many problems..

Depends I guess, their history, how many times they've been sectioned before. Like if they didn't know they were ill and it was a first time thing, I think they should be let out. But people will a long mental health history record probably should be looked at more closely.