[Shasown]

Conservative leader David Cameron has said that the time-limit for abortions should be cut to "20 or 22 weeks", in an interview with a Roman Catholic newspaper.

Mr Cameron backed a cut to 22 weeks in 2008, when the House of Commons voted to keep the existing maximum of 24 weeks.

But he indicated that he might be willing to go further when he told the Catholic Herald that a new review was now needed.

"My own view is that we do need to review the abortion limit. I think that the way medical science and technology have developed in the past few decades does mean that an upper limit of 20 or 22 weeks would be sensible," said Mr Cameron.

He indicated that Conservative MPs would be allowed a free vote on the question, as is normal with issues of conscience.

Mr Cameron also warned against legalising assisted suicide, saying: "My personal view is that if assisted dying is legalised, there is a danger that terminally ill people may feel pressurised into ending their lives if they feel they've become a burden on loved ones."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100408...t-6323e80.html

Call me cynical but is Big Dave trying to swing a catholic vote?

[Princess]

It's 24 weeks??? That's vile,babies can be born and survive at 24 weeks.

[Tom4784]

He'll whistle any tune to get votes.

[AndyJK]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He'll whistle any tune to get votes.

And the other parties wont?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by angus58

At least the Conservatives will reclaim our open borders and put the brakes on immigration which is now out of control. The Labour Party have no idea how many illegals are in this country, but they're alright Jack since they'll all be able to leave this country when England is finally bankrupted and sinks without trace due to sheer weight of numbers.

How anyone can say that Labour giving handouts to allcomers who have not paid a penny into the system is economically viable or fair and just to the poor, beleagured taxpayer in this country beggars belief. Yet there will still be idiots who want to vote that bunch of war criminals back into power. You don't see many of the Labour MPs' sons and daughters going off to Iraq or Afghanistan do you?

Like the others he'll say anything to get into power, nothing will come of it though because like with all politicians it's just empty words. Anyone foolish enough to vote in a Tory will deserve what's coming to them when they drop the whole 'we care about the working class!' act as soon as they're elected. They care about the middle and upper classes, always have and always will.

All politicians are snakes but out of the current candidates Cameron is by far the worst.

Originally Posted by AndyJK

And the other parties wont?

Yes because I specifically said in my posts that the other parties were perfect....oh wait....stop trying to put words in my mouth. All parties are as bad as each other but the tories are by far the worst.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

All parties are as bad as each other but the tories are by far the worst.

I see logic and you arent too well acquainted.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Shasown

I see logic and you arent acquainted.

Same can be said for you and sense if you think any of them can be trusted.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Like the others he'll say anything to get into power, nothing will come of it though because like with all politicians it's just empty words. Anyone foolish enough to vote in a Tory will deserve what's coming to them when they drop the whole 'we care about the working class!' act as soon as they're elected. They care about the middle and upper classes, always have and always will.

All politicians are snakes but out of the current candidates Cameron is by far the worst.



Yes because I specifically said in my posts that the other parties were perfect....oh wait....stop trying to put words in my mouth. All parties are as bad as each other but the tories are by far the worst.

The tories have always backed controlled immigration - so NO they are not all the same. As for caring about middle and upper classes, I suggest you look at the credentials of the labour mps, most of whom are what I would term upper middle class. and most of whom have been caught with their greedy little fingers in the national till.

As for telling lies, I suggest you look no further than the spin doctors of the Labour Party - everyone is still searching for these weapons of mass destruction they assured us were in Iraq, and as for their figures on immigration, they are a complete work of fiction. This lot have practically bankrupted this nation, yet their answer to all problems is simply to keep borrowing and throwing money around (often to the undeserving) as if it were confetti. Remember what it was like 13 years ago when England was still recognisable? Well what we have now is all down to the New Labour criminals. No spin, no lies, just the evidence all around us that can be seen by anyone with even half a brain.

AND YET there are morons out there still prepared to subject us all to another five years under the Labour jackboot.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by angus58

The tories have always backed controlled immigration - so NO they are not all the same. As for caring about middle and upper classes, I suggest you look at the credentials of the labour mps, most of whom are what I would term upper middle class. and most of whom have been caught with their greedy little fingers in the national till.

As for telling lies, I suggest you look no further than the spin doctors of the Labour Party - everyone is still searching for these weapons of mass destruction they assured us were in Iraq, and as for their figures on immigration, they are a complete work of fiction. This lot have practically bankrupted this nation, yet their answer to all problems is simply to keep borrowing and throwing money around (often to the undeserving) as if it were confetti. Remember what it was like 13 years ago when England was still recognisable? Well what we have now is all down to the New Labour criminals. No spin, no lies, just the evidence all around us that can be seen by anyone with even half a brain.

AND YET there are morons out there still prepared to subject us all to another five years under the Labour jackboot.

I'm not supporting Labour, I just don't trust Cameron as far as I can fly same goes for Brown but in the choice between the two I'd very begrudgingly vote Labour.

Like I said in the other post, they're all terrible but the Lib Dems haven't had chance to ***** it up like the other two have so let's give them a shot.

[AndyJK]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes because I specifically said in my posts that the other parties were perfect....oh wait....stop trying to put words in my mouth. All parties are as bad as each other but the tories are by far the worst.

You are talking in cliches. You hate the Tories so you will say that even though you can't back it up. Or can you?

[arista]

"He'll whistle any tune to get votes. "

As Does One Eyed Scottish Brown our UnElected PM at this time.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

"He'll whistle any tune to get votes. "

As Does One Eyed Scottish Brown our UnElected PM at this time.

'Better the Devil we know'

The Conservatives will only benefit the richer demographics as they always have. Brown's sh*t but he's a better prospect then the tories.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'Better the Devil we know'

The Conservatives will only benefit the richer demographics as they always have. Brown's sh*t but he's a better prospect then the tories.

what he said!

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'Better the Devil we know'

The Conservatives will only benefit the richer demographics as they always have. Brown's sh*t but he's a better prospect then the tories.

At least the Conservatives will reclaim our open borders and put the brakes on immigration which is now out of control. The Labour Party have no idea how many illegals are in this country, but they're alright Jack since they'll all be able to leave this country when England is finally bankrupted and sinks without trace due to sheer weight of numbers.

How anyone can say that Labour giving handouts to allcomers who have not paid a penny into the system is economically viable or fair and just to the poor, beleagured taxpayer in this country beggars belief. Yet there will still be idiots who want to vote that bunch of war criminals back into power. You don't see many of the Labour MPs' sons and daughters going off to Iraq or Afghanistan do you?

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by angus58

At least the Conservatives will reclaim our open borders and put the brakes on immigration which is now out of control. The Labour Party have no idea how many illegals are in this country, but they're alright Jack since they'll all be able to leave this country when England is finally bankrupted and sinks without trace due to sheer weight of numbers.

See this is why I like this David guy.

Apperantly he wants to cut down on Immigration and stop them from coming here?

Wicked.

[BB_Eye]

So predictable

As soon as the election gets underway, out comes the real Cameron.

[rapunza1977]

I did not realise you could have an abortion up to 24 weeks oh my god

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

I did not realise you could have an abortion up to 24 weeks oh my god

24 weeks is too late! It should be lowered - although not entirely sure how much!

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

24 weeks is too late! It should be lowered - although not entirely sure how much!

What's so bad about 24 weeks? An unborn foetus is neither conscious nor self-aware.

Seriously, the easier it is for as many people as possible to have access to an abortion doctor the better. If they had done this twenty years ago, the streets might not be as infested as it is with violent criminals from broken homes.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

What's so bad about 24 weeks? An unborn foetus is neither conscious nor self-aware.

Seriously, the easier it is for as many people as possible to have access to an abortion doctor the better. If they had done this twenty years ago, the streets might not be as infested as it is with violent criminals from broken homes.

I think that abortions at 24 weeks offend peoples sensibilities, given that a high proportion of premature babies delivered at 22 weeks are now surviving. So some people now consider it to be tantamount to infanticide. Again a case of the easily offend moral minority trying to force limitations on the rights and freedoms of others.

Funnily enough the abortion limit at 24 weeks was set in 1990 - twenty years ago as an amendment to the 1967 Abortion Act.

The main point being that social abortion (- abortion simply because the woman doesnt want a child)doesnt really occur after about 19 weeks. And abortion after 24 weeks on medical grounds is still legal. When the foetus has abnormalities there is no limit on the time of abortion

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

What's so bad about 24 weeks? An unborn foetus is neither conscious nor self-aware.

Seriously, the easier it is for as many people as possible to have access to an abortion doctor the better. If they had done this twenty years ago, the streets might not be as infested as it is with violent criminals from broken homes.

yes lets just exterminate the people who we dont like and keep all the good ones....

and the first point is not valid as we do not know that at all. what we know is only what we know now, and we ALL know how unreliable that is over time..

[DrunkerThanMoses]

As someone said its to try and get votes from anti-abortion people and catholics.

[pinkmichk]

well given that the baby has a heart beat from around 6 weeks it is actually a life i dont agree with abortions personally so would love to see it lowered or gone completely i have a friend whos first daughter was born at 27 weeks and is now a thriving almost 6 year old i also know of a 25 weeker who has survived too

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

well given that the baby has a heart beat from around 6 weeks it is actually a life i dont agree with abortions personally so would love to see it lowered or gone completely i have a friend whos first daughter was born at 27 weeks and is now a thriving almost 6 year old i also know of a 25 weeker who has survived too

It can't be got rid off completely - however upsetting some may find the idea! Noone has the right to force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

It can't be got rid off completely - however upsetting some may find the idea! Noone has the right to force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want!

perhaps she waved that option when she got pregnant, after all we all know how it happens