[WOMBAI]

UK's first abortion services ad created by Marie Stopes!

Views please.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8693732.stm

[Beastie]

They were discussing this on This Morning, this morning!

Mmm.. I think contraception should be the key thing to invest in. However I hope there is a lot of information and numbers to call for help in the ad.. because not all people want to go to their GP.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Yes - I saw it as well! It was interesting! I don't believe they are trying to 'sell' abortion - just providing an information service for those that might otherwise find it difficult to access such information! I see it as a positive thing, not a negative thing!

Yeah suppose it all depends how the advert comes across on Monday night..

[arista]

Yes goes out on Ch4 at 10PM soon


Good Idea.

[Spike]

I don't see anything wrong with abortion adverts. It's a good thing as long as its done in the right way.

[pinkmichk]

dont agree with the ad same way i didnt agree with the morning after pill advert but i'm pro life anyway so dont agree with abortion anyway

[arista]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

dont agree with the ad same way i didnt agree with the morning after pill advert but i'm pro life anyway so dont agree with abortion anyway

Avoid Ch4 10PM.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

dont agree with the ad same way i didnt agree with the morning after pill advert but i'm pro life anyway so dont agree with abortion anyway

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion - but how can you justify withholding the morning after pill from women - that would just be anti-abortionists controlling other people's lives and forcing their opinon on others - not acceptable in a democracy!

[Saralouleelaa]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

dont agree with the ad same way i didnt agree with the morning after pill advert but i'm pro life anyway so dont agree with abortion anyway

i completely agree with you, if people didnt want children they should be either protecting themselves properly or not having sex at all

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Saralouleelaa

i completely agree with you, if people didnt want children they should be either protecting themselves properly or not having sex at all

But that's the narrow and simplistic view and life isn't that black and white. What if the mother suffers from health issues that could endanger her during pregnancy or what if they can't financially cope with a pregnancy? I'm against the notion of abortion used a contraceptive but if someone wants to have an abortion then well that's their choice.

It's never as simple as what you made it out to be in your post and it's quite patronising.

[Tom4784]

I'm not against it, It sounds like the advert aims provide advice rather then selling abortions.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not against it, It sounds like the advert aims provide advice rather then selling abortions.

Yes Advice
is a Good Move.

[ElProximo]

A better advert for baby killing would be to show the young woman crying and very upset because the boy she loved did not stay with her because she got pregnant with his baby and/or convinced him it was his,
so,
she needs to kill the baby so she can try again with whoever will be the next young man she hopes to keep.

This advert should be always followed with the same young woman distraught, psychologically traumatized, hopeless in guilt and blame and even experiencing pathological mental illness as a result of the abortion,
and,
then the number to a psychological therapy centre specializing in her problems.

or maybe none of this needs to be advertised.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Withholding information - it just a form of control! Women/girls have a right to know their options! And what you are talking about is just emotional blackmail!

First off - the adverts are as much emotional blackmail as you can get but notice MY IDEA GIVES ALL THE INFORMATION.
It INFORMS them that a large number of women have emotional and psychological problems after aborting their babies.
Sometimes very serious ones.

But as for knowing options - the television is not the place where all information about all things must be transmitted and never was and wont' be. As if 'not advertising' cigarettes is 'taking away my right to know' and therefore 'controlling me'.

I'd like to know why being 'late' is such a problem. Children are awesome. The girl in the advert wasn't aborted. Neither were the people at this abortion company.
They claim to be doing some good things and claim the girl in the advert is good and worthwhile.
So you would think the same is true for the baby in her. Why is the baby a problem here?
I think its probably doing just fine and enjoying its growth and isn't bother by 'being late' or by being born.

[teamandre]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

First off - the adverts are as much emotional blackmail as you can get but notice MY IDEA GIVES ALL THE INFORMATION.
It INFORMS them that a large number of women have emotional and psychological problems after aborting their babies.
Sometimes very serious ones.

But as for knowing options - the television is not the place where all information about all things must be transmitted and never was and wont' be. As if 'not advertising' cigarettes is 'taking away my right to know' and therefore 'controlling me'.

I'd like to know why being 'late' is such a problem. Children are awesome. The girl in the advert wasn't aborted. Neither were the people at this abortion company.
They claim to be doing some good things and claim the girl in the advert is good and worthwhile.
So you would think the same is true for the baby in her. Why is the baby a problem here?
I think its probably doing just fine and enjoying its growth and isn't bother by 'being late' or by being born.

Why is the baby a problem here?
its because of all them self centerd s**gs out there that think it is okay to get rid of a human life you do the crime you do the time its simple the child in side of the person has doen nothing wrong

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by teamandre

Why is the baby a problem here?
its because of all them self centerd s**gs out there that think it is okay to get rid of a human life you do the crime you do the time its simple the child in side of the person has doen nothing wrong

One girl I know got pregnant after some one-night stand with some soldier she didn't even know.
Turned out he was married with children and a wife beater anyways,
but,
despite having nearly nothing for income and her own health problems she had a healthy little girl.
She loves it.
Sure it's difficult too and she doesn't go club hopping anymore because she loves being mummy taking her girl to school each morning.
Good kid too.. really bright cheerful little girl with a happy demeanor. Going to be a smart one too you can tell.

Anyways, there is the other side for those selfish people - children can bring them a lot of joy and fun and good feelings.
They talk like having a child is a problem and is going to hurt their feelings and they will lose happiness.
no.
They may very well become much happier, more mature, more confident, more fulfilled teenage moms with more laughs, smiles, and joys because of the child.

But you are right - almost always it is pure selfishness and people who don't feel they have any responsibility to their actions.
Thats what I heard anyways

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

One girl I know got pregnant after some one-night stand with some soldier she didn't even know.
Turned out he was married with children and a wife beater anyways,
but,
despite having nearly nothing for income and her own health problems she had a healthy little girl.
She loves it.
Sure it's difficult too and she doesn't go club hopping anymore because she loves being mummy taking her girl to school each morning.
Good kid too.. really bright cheerful little girl with a happy demeanor. Going to be a smart one too you can tell.

Anyways, there is the other side for those selfish people - children can bring them a lot of joy and fun and good feelings.
They talk like having a child is a problem and is going to hurt their feelings and they will lose happiness.
no.
They may very well become much happier, more mature, more confident, more fulfilled teenage moms with more laughs, smiles, and joys because of the child.

But you are right - almost always it is pure selfishness and people who don't feel they have any responsibility to their actions.
Thats what I heard anyways

Would you say the same if men were the ones left holding the baby!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

One girl I know got pregnant after some one-night stand with some soldier she didn't even know.
Turned out he was married with children and a wife beater anyways,
but,
despite having nearly nothing for income and her own health problems she had a healthy little girl.
She loves it.
Sure it's difficult too and she doesn't go club hopping anymore because she loves being mummy taking her girl to school each morning.
Good kid too.. really bright cheerful little girl with a happy demeanor. Going to be a smart one too you can tell.

Anyways, there is the other side for those selfish people - children can bring them a lot of joy and fun and good feelings.
They talk like having a child is a problem and is going to hurt their feelings and they will lose happiness.
no.
They may very well become much happier, more mature, more confident, more fulfilled teenage moms with more laughs, smiles, and joys because of the child.
But you are right - almost always it is pure selfishness and people who don't feel they have any responsibility to their actions.
Thats what I heard anyways

And what if they don't! Do young girls not have the right to a quality of life! We all make careless mistakes when we are young - why should young girls be expected to pay such a hefty price for theirs! An unwanted child is a hugh, life-long responsibility! Not to mention the child has a right to be born into a loving home! It could turn out to be a nightmare for both!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

why should a lad have to pay 4 a babby wot he dont want, and wot might not even be his?

Put something on the end of it then - act like a man, not a silly irresponsible boy!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

put something on the end of it? wot are you jeremy kyle or sumat
its up 2 gals to take the pill, its not lads fault that bareback feels 10 times better is it?

Think you must be somewhat lacking in the IQ department! Take your caveman views somewhere else!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

why should a lad have to pay 4 a babby wot he dont want, and wot might not even be his?

there's such a thing as a DNA test you know

[teamandre]

i think the advert is wrong and i dont believe in abortions they are just wrong

[Ella]

Originally Posted by teamandre

i think the advert is wrong and i dont believe in abortions they are just wrong

So if a woman was raped you think an abortion is wrong in that case? Or if contraception failed? Every single woman on the planet has a right to do what she wants with her body, If she can't physically, mentally or emotionally deal with pregnancy, birth and so on then that's her choice, You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong.

This is a subject I feel very strongly about.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Ella

So if a woman was raped you think an abortion is wrong in that case? Or if contraception failed? Every single woman on the planet has a right to do what she wants with her body, If she can't physically, mentally or emotionally deal with pregnancy, birth and so on then that's her choice, You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong.

This is a subject I feel very strongly about.

[teamandre]

Originally Posted by Ella

So if a woman was raped you think an abortion is wrong in that case? Or if contraception failed? Every single woman on the planet has a right to do what she wants with her body, If she can't physically, mentally or emotionally deal with pregnancy, birth and so on then that's her choice, You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong.

This is a subject I feel very strongly about.

no if you read before i said except for speical circumstances e.g rape other things and yes its there body but it doesnt mean i have to agree with it does it thats my opion