[Zippy]

Oh dear. Set to debut at a pathetic No38.

Sorry Nadine, seems like nobodies interested in you on your own. Some people just don't have the charisma to be a solo success. You're clearly one of them. Ive always said for years that she would flop as a solo artist despite her good voice. -smug-

ps; her single is also set to drop out of the top40 after its sad debut at No26.



pps; great to also see Taylor swifts album plummeting down the charts already! This aint America, honey.

[Smithy]

Apparently it's a good album, it's just she shot herself in the foot by signing exclusively with TESCO.

The only reason Cheryl sells so well is because she has the XF as a platform to perform on.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

The only reason Cheryl sells so well is because she has the XF as a platform to perform on.

Cheryl was way more charismatic and famous than Nadine before XF. Indeed, its why she got the XF gig in the first place.

She would have had solo success anyways. Not as much maybe without XF but certainly more than Nadine is having.

Nadine couldnt get a decent record deal so had to take what she could. Indeed, I think she's actually released it through her own record company. I could be corrected on the exact details coz I can't be arsed to check.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Cheryl was way more charismatic and famous than Nadine before XF. Indeed, its why she got the XF gig in the first place.

She would have had solo success anyways. Not as much maybe without XF but certainly more than Nadine is having.

Not necessarily, if Nadine had got the role of XF judge and Cheryl hadn't the whole outcome would have been the completely opposite of what it is now. It's nothing to do with her being "charismatic" or "more famous"

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

It's nothing to do with her being "charismatic" or "more famous"

Of course it is! Some stand out more than others. Its called star quality.

Cheryl has it, Nadine doesn't.

Not everything is definable especially when it comes to who draws peoples attention. Look at Jordan; there's no good reason to like her but she's still one of the most famous people in the country and makes millions from people being drawn to her and her products.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Of course it is! Some stand out more than others. Its called star quality.

Cheryl has it, Nadine doesn't.

Not everything is definable especially when it comes to who draws peoples attention. Look at Jordan; there's no good reason to like her but she's still one of the most famous people in the country and makes millions from people being drawn to her and her products.

Cheryl was more famous because of her association with C-Ashley. Without him she would never had had such a high profile.

Using Jordan as an example to justify any ones 'star quality' makes you look desperate. As Niamh says you come across as mean spirited at times with the way you revel in the misfortune of anyone who challenges your 'Princess' Cheryl.

[Callum]

The album is quite good actually, there's a few songs which could be hits.

[Niamh.]

can't they both do well Zippy, don't be a meany

[Patrick]

In other news, MM&I is probably crying as we speak as Taylor Swift falls to Number 36.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Patrick

In other news, MM&I is probably crying as we speak as Taylor Swift falls to Number 36.

yes I did put a ps about that in my post.

Even Pixie Lotts album is still around the same number as them - after 61 weeks on the charts!

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Of course it is! Some stand out more than others. Its called star quality.

Cheryl has it, Nadine doesn't.

Not everything is definable especially when it comes to who draws peoples attention. Look at Jordan; there's no good reason to like her but she's still one of the most famous people in the country and makes millions from people being drawn to her and her products.

Sorry, I don't think I made my point clear enough. Cheryl doesn't have more Charisma than Nadine, and prior to XF she wasn't more famous than her either.

Originally Posted by Zippy

yes I did put a ps about that in my post.

Even Pixie Lotts album is still around the same number as them - after 61 weeks on the charts!

And Pixie's Album is only there because it's been rereleased recently so even when it was out of the top 40 it counts as a week

[Tom4784]

She was always going to flop, apart from the silly exclusivity deal there's the fact that her song sounded like she went back in time and nicked it from Michelle Branch. Her sound was just completely irrelevent.

[Mystic Mock]

i agree with what others have said on this thread,cheryl would have floped without the x factor.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

i agree with what others have said on this thread,cheryl would have floped without the x factor.

nobody said that. No surprise, you have.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zippy

nobody said that. No surprise, you have.

because its true if she werent on the x factor she would have floped after that horrible fight for this love.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

because its true if she werent on the x factor she would have floped after that horrible fight for this love.

Horrible?

whatever, Ill allow you an opinion but its sales speak for itself(4th biggest seller of 2009).

And if XF is oh so responsible for her success than how come it didint do anything for Dannii's singing career?

Quite.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Horrible?

whatever, Ill allow you an opinion but its sales speak for itself(4th biggest seller of 2009).

Lol, sales

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Zippy

but its sales speak for itself(4th biggest seller of 2009).

Have you met MeMyselfandI?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Horrible?

whatever, Ill allow you an opinion but its sales speak for itself(4th biggest seller of 2009).

And if XF is oh so responsible for her success than how come it didint do anything for Dannii's singing career?

Quite.

dannii didnt have a singing career while she has been on the x factor as far as im aware,and even if she did still have a singing career while on the x factor she dosent go promoting her singles on there by performing them every single year.

[BB_Eye]

Give the girl a break. It's not exactly for talent that Cheryl has done any better, or even the quality of her music.

[Locke.]

Katie Price is a big name in this country because 90% of people hate her, it's the other way around with Cheryl.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Katie Price is a big name in this country because 90% of people hate her, it's the other way around with Cheryl.

yeah cheryl more than likely has about 70% love her and 30% hate her,which 30% is still alot of people to dislike you.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Katie Price is a big name in this country because 90% of people hate her, it's the other way around with Cheryl.

Really?????

[Z]

My view is that Nadine spent too long trying to perfect an album that, by the time it was released, went against the grain of styles of currently popular music. She pitched her album/album ideas to various record labels who all clearly saw that the album wasn't going to sell well; and she ended up settling for Tesco because they wanted to get an established name on their record label so, in her eyes, it's making the best of a bad bunch of rejections but trying to pass it off as a success. She limited her target audience which is never sensible if you're trying to be a successful solo artist in pop music. I don't agree with those saying she doesn't have star quality - I think all five members of Girls Aloud have it (whatever 'it' is) because they were successful in part for their personalities (hosting TV shows dedicated to them for example)... I think the reason Nadine's failed is because of her out of date music and her very limiting record deal decision. Cheryl, conversely, has been a success because of the X Factor - she can convey her personality on the X Factor for a quarter of the year, every year, be constantly in the headlines and generally receive a much warmer reception to her music, despite Nadine's (apparently - I've not heard much of it) being superior.