[Grimnir]

It has happened quite often in various parts of the world throughout history.

What would your reaction be?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

It has happened quite often in various parts of the world throughout history.

What would your reaction be?

No, they'll just try to change the government rather than demand independence from it. Anyways, my own advice to the Brits (as someone on the outside looking in) is that they need to stop being distracted by some extreme Muslims and start paying attention to that massive European cock that being rammed into the British lion's arse deeper and deeper as time goes by. Maybe you should demand your own independence from the EU.

Going back to this immigration issue, Britain still needs experience taking in immigrants. The amazing thing is America is better than Europe in handling and accepting new immigrants like Muslims. Yes, we're actually better than you at something!

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Going back to this immigration issue, Britain still needs experience taking in immigrants. The amazing thing is America is better than Europe in handling and accepting new immigrants like Muslims. Yes, we're actually better than you at something!

lol k, what about all those Mexican's illegally crossing the border everyday, or those Eastern Europeans sneaking over on the boats? Though you do have a better legal immigration system

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Yes, we're actually better than you at something!

Yes... criticising other countries. which is odd when you think that only a tiny fraction of Americans will ever visit another country.

[cub]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes... criticising other countries. which is odd when you think that only a tiny fraction of Americans will ever visit another country.

Only because they don't need to. In the US you can ski, surf, sunbathe, visit lots of different cultures - you cannot do that in most other counties. Where can you sunbathe in December in the UK?

When I move to New York (one day) I'll never leave the US again.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by cub

Only because they don't need to. In the US you can ski, surf, sunbathe, visit lots of different cultures - you cannot do that in most other counties. Where can you sunbathe in December in the UK?

When I move to New York (one day) I'll never leave the US again.

exactly. Traveling between states in the US, is like traveling between countries in Europe. Most countries in Europe are more comparable to the size of a US state. And until recently you didn't even need a passport to travel to Canada. So North America as a whole, is much bigger than Europe, and you didn't even need a passport to go anywhere on the entire continent.

New York on the east coast of the US is as culturally different to Los Angeles on the west coast as London is to Rome.
Turkey is closer to the UK than Florida is to Alaska.

Europeans don't realize how culturally diverse the USA is.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by lostalex

exactly. Traveling between states in the US, is like traveling between countries in Europe. Most countries in Europe are more comparable to the size of a US state. And until recently you didn't even need a passport to travel to Canada. So North America as a whole, is much bigger than Europe, and you didn't even need a passport to go anywhere on the entire continent.

New York on the east coast of the US is as culturally different to Los Angeles on the west coast as London is to Rome.
Turkey is closer to the UK than Florida is to Alaska.

That may well be true, but who wants to see just a reproduction or facsimile of a country or a landmark? I want to see the real thing! I've been to Alaska which is a unique and beautiful place, but I could just as easily compare south central Alaska to Sweden as they are very similar. Doesn't mean I don't want to see Sweden though! I've been to San Francisco and sailed under the Golden Gate Bridge, I've seen the Pyramids and the Valley of the Kings in Egypt, the Dancing Fountains and Las Ramblas in Barcelona, the Colisseum and the Vatican City in Rome, St Mark's Square and the Canals of Venice, the Parthenon in Greece and a thousand other marvellous and unique places in the world - I would never be satisfied with poor copies.

Also I live in London which is jam packed with historical sights and landmarks and you can replicate them all you want but that's all they would ever be, replicas.

But hey, if you're easily pleased and don't want to travel, that's your choice and your loss.

[Angus]

They already have it to all intents and purposes They are the new darlings of the liberal elite.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by angus58

They already have it to all intents and purposes They are the new darlings of the liberal elite.

You're such a hoot Angus.

All this Islam paranoia is so draining, like Liberty said everyone's so focused on the extreme minority that they don't realise that most muslims just want to live here peacefully. Some people need to stop taking the tabloids to heart and actually experience different cultures once in a while instead of griping from their armchairs thinking they know everything because they've read a few badly written newspapers or watched a few documentaries focused on the very worst of a society.

Those kind of things DEPEND on depicting the worst case scenairios, you wouldn't buy a newspaper if the headline was 'All is right with the world' but if you saw 'MUSLIM EXTREMISTS TAKING OVER' chances are you'd be more inclined to look. That's all the media is, showing us the worst to make us listen. Look at the whole Swine flu debacle, weren't we meant to be brought to our knees by it? It was the media telling us the worst possible outcome to make us pay attention.

Most Muslims aren't out to get you, you're more likely to get mugged or assaulted then being killed in a terrorist attack.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're such a hoot Angus.

All this Islam paranoia is so draining, like Liberty said everyone's so focused on the extreme minority that they don't realise that most muslims just want to live here peacefully. Some people need to stop taking the tabloids to heart and actually experience different cultures once in a while instead of griping from their armchairs thinking they know everything because they've read a few badly written newspapers or watched a few documentaries focused on the very worst of a society.

Those kind of things DEPEND on depicting the worst case scenairios, you wouldn't buy a newspaper if the headline was 'All is right with the world' but if you saw 'MUSLIM EXTREMISTS TAKING OVER' chances are you'd be more inclined to look. That's all the media is, showing us the worst to make us listen. Look at the whole Swine flu debacle, weren't we meant to be brought to our knees by it? It was the media telling us the worst possible outcome to make us pay attention.

Most Muslims aren't out to get you, you're more likely to get mugged or assaulted then being killed in a terrorist attack.

Don't presume to know me, you silly little boy. When you have some experience of life behind you, I might deign to give a **** about what you have to say. Meanwhile, I suggest you go back to reading the Guardian and Time Out, or whatever other rag you get your deluded opinions from. In other words go patronise someone who gives a ***** about what you have to say.

As a mod you should know way better than to persistently attempt to insult by innuendo and supposition. How about just allowing FMs the courtesy of expressing their opinion without your right on, politically correct, liberal bigotry sense of entitlement to try and silence anyone with a different point of view from you and your little mates?

You'll note I don't follow YOU around the forum because I find your posts uninteresting, naive and pointless to read so don't waste my time with them. YOU on the other hand seek ME out - go figure

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by angus58

Don't presume to know me, you silly little boy. When you have some experience of life behind you, I might deign to give a **** about what you have to say. Meanwhile, I suggest you go back to reading the Guardian and Time Out, or whatever other rag you get your deluded opinions from. In other words go patronise someone who gives a ***** about what you have to say.

As a mod you should know way better than to persistently attempt to insult by innuendo and supposition. How about just allowing FMs the courtesy of expressing their opinion without your right on, politically correct, liberal bigotry sense of entitlement to try and silence anyone with a different point of view from you and your little mates?

You'll note I don't follow YOU around the forum because I find your posts uninteresting, naive and pointless to read so don't waste my time with them. YOU on the other hand seek ME out - go figure

Another post ridden with the same angry rhetoric and cliches you've repeated a million times before, because we're all just Guardian reading, politically correct liberal bigots with no life experience in your eyes eh angus?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by angus58

Don't presume to know me, you silly little boy. When you have some experience of life behind you, I might deign to give a **** about what you have to say. Meanwhile, I suggest you go back to reading the Guardian and Time Out, or whatever other rag you get your deluded opinions from. In other words go patronise someone who gives a ***** about what you have to say.

As a mod you should know way better than to persistently attempt to insult by innuendo and supposition. How about just allowing FMs the courtesy of expressing their opinion without your right on, politically correct, liberal bigotry sense of entitlement to try and silence anyone with a different point of view from you and your little mates?

You'll note I don't follow YOU around the forum because I find your posts uninteresting, naive and pointless to read so don't waste my time with them. YOU on the other hand seek ME out - go figure

You've got such an inflated sense of self worth if you think I seek you out, I click on a topic and if I see an opinion that I find quite frankly laughable I'll point it out. It's a debate section Angus so if you don't want your points of view discussed then I advise you stay away. Also I didn't insult you, I don't see any insults directed at you in that post at all. If that's what you got from it then you're oversensitive. In fact you've insulted me a lot more with direct attacks in that post so don't play the victim card because it's blatantly hypocritical.

You harp on about age and life experience but that post is you essentially getting in a huff and taking your ball home. If you can't handle a debate or defend your views then you're in the wrong section.

Please, why don't you try to argue my points instead of insulting me? If you think I'm being patronising about my views on the media then why don't you try to counter it? Why must you constantly accuse me and others of grouping up against you? You're answer to everything is essentially ' I'M OLDER AND WISER RAWR YOU'RE POINT OF VIEW MEANS NOTHING AND IF YOU DARE QUESTION MINE I'LL RESPOND LIKE AN IRATE BANSHEE RAWR'.

Also i don't read the newspapers, I read a few different sites because I like to hear the different sides to a story instead of taking everything as gospel from one publication.....I must be a Liberal communist! or a democratic nazi! Or whatever nonsensical oxymorons you've got up your sleeve. I enjoy different points of views and i also like to challenge them like people challenge mine. If you can't deal with that then that's your own problem.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by angus58

They already have it to all intents and purposes They are the new darlings of the liberal elite.

Indeed. That sums up the actual truth of the matter......

They don't in general intergrate due to their dark ages culture......In effect where ever they settle they become a self isolated community and indeed will at some point when numbers are even greater will fight a bloody savage war to get Britain into an islamic dominated society........Its not a matter of if but just when........Civil war for Britain is just around the corner and now completely inevitable.....

[InOne]

Pffft they can want, but we'll laugh. Plus it can't happen seen as Sunnis and Shia's hate eachother anyway

[ILoveTRW]

they already do, its called blackburn

[Stu]

the ~LIBERAL ELITE!

[Stu]

The illegal Mexicans don't have the Daily Mail to market them to idiots.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Stu

The illegal Mexicans don't have the Daily Mail to market them to idiots.

True, but America has a much worse version of the Daily Mail

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Chewy

True, but America has a much worse version of the Daily Mail

Plus the Tea Party lot

[arista]

Originally Posted by Chewy

True, but America has a much worse version of the Daily Mail

Yes Chewy Fox News
is Very Funny.

[Stu]

Youtube video

[arista]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

It has happened quite often in various parts of the world throughout history.

What would your reaction be?

Not in the UK.


Anyway they can move to Libya or something out there

[Judas]

Quite simply - No. And my reaction to angus ****e -

[Shasown]

Why would Muslims want independence?

Surely they live here because its better than other places. If they dont like the fabric of our society they can always move elsewhere that suits them better.

[BB_Eye]

I don't think so. In most cases where the muslim population demand a degree of independence is where there is a majority of muslims in certain provinces, such as in Indonesia and Nigeria. In the UK, muslims are mostly gathered in cities.