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HS2 UK New Railway has to be Built
Great Fight Live on Ch4News just Now. Our Railways were built 100 years ago or so. 1854 infact. Even if you say the Cost is to much. New Railways have to be built there is no other way. Video now gone Report then the Fight in the Studio. Ch4News 28/7/11. Last edited by arista; 21-08-2019 at 11:53 AM. |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ja...-hs2-rail-link
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16144165 HS2 looks like its going ahead. Which makes sense 2026 is a date some have given for its completion |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ja...ct-green-light
Yes Now they go ahead. Works to start after legal problems are dealt with. Last edited by arista; 24-02-2017 at 03:30 AM. |
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All that money for a half hour saving? It seems a little bit unreasonable to me.
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why is it needed? The railways are the biggest rip-off I've ever come across. I can't imagine this making them any cheaper. I wish there would be more investment in cleaner and more efficient cars personally.
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Faster freight? Less dependance on planes for cross country travel? UK railway lines are pathetically behind the times compared with the rest of the world.
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It's such a good idea, it really is. But it's the classic argument of planning vs. environmental sensitivity.
I personally am pro the trainline EDIT: You'd think they would search for an option that doesn't negatively impact people's properties eg. spliting that man's land in half Last edited by Marc; 12-01-2012 at 11:52 AM. |
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![]() and lol @ "screw the environmentalists"... just...don't need to say anything really.
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Spoiler: Last edited by Shaun; 28-01-2013 at 10:01 AM. |
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All hail the Moyesiah
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I think it's a good idea, screw the environmentalists
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No pain, no gain. Time is money. Is progress supposed to come to a shuddering halt and be thwarted because of its fleeting impact on a minority of people? Utilitarianism is the principle here - the greatest good for the greatest number.
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75% Trish
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all of this to gain half an hour? it's madness imo
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30 minutes, for now, high speed rail is about futureproofing our rail system, our current lines have been around for over 100 years and are rather limiting us now
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We get to hear the Phase 2 route in the next hour
but nothing is being built , yet thats wrong http://news.sky.com/story/1043666/hs...spark-backlash 2026 is a long way away Last edited by arista; 28-01-2013 at 06:31 AM. |
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This is long overdue, a much needed plan to modernise and update our railway infrastructure with new high speed lines. Because it requires new track it will not be popular with the environmentalists and the nimby's who will argue it it too expensive and unecessary. It will cause a lot of disruption to the countryside with many compulsory purchase orders of the land where the new tracks are going to be.
But remember this we had to go through this process back in the nineteenth century when the railways were first built and that must have been far more severe and disruptive , but that was needed for the country to industrialise. So how can anyone realistically argue against this much needed update to our railway infrastructure . The new lines will not be ready until 2030 in any case and by then they will be absolutely vital without new lines like these we could end up as the laughing stock of Europe (in railway terms) ...assuming we are not that already !!! |
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Good good
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Good stuff
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I was watching this on the news and thought it was a good idea but then it said it wouldn't be ready till 2033 :|
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