[Vicky.]

One of the best posts I have read in quite a long time.

Originally Posted by johnF1971

I keep reading and hearing that Aaron is a gameplayer and has a plan, presumably that is supposed to get him to the final and win the 100K. Even some of his fans seem to think he has a plan but defend him saying its a gameshow etc. So what exactly is this brilliant plan supposed to be?

If I was on Big Brother and had a plan to win, I think firstly I'd do my best to get on with all my other housemates so that I'd avoid nominations and cruise through to the final and along the way try to endear myself to the public by being funny, entertaining and likeable (errrm, Alex anyone?)

Sounds sensible doesn't it?

So lets look at Aaron. What's he done to endear himself to his housemates and the viewers?

Be constantly moody and sulky.
Don't be a team player.
Pretend to fancy some housemates and then make them jealous by snogging someone else.
Deliberately fail tasks when your Housemates are desperate for food.
Get together with a girl 10 years younger than you and then keep falling out with her and upsetting her and ignoring her (that will endear him to all the female viewers and parents out there!)

Do all of the above to get yourself nominated every week, with the slim hope that the viewers might save you because you have a dry sense of humour and say "crikey" and "oh Dear" a lot.

Somehow, incredibly, it turns out the public do take to you and you realise you are actually quite popular when you keep coming first in the weekly votes to save.

So what do you do? Sit back confidently and continue to make your dry quips and amusing mannerisms to cruise through to the final?

Oh no! That would be too easy. Instead when you realise you've won the public over and everyone left is finally friends and getting along great and can't bring themselves to properly nominate anyone coz you're all good mates, you save the best till last, and dressed as the devil, you betray all your friends and girlfriend and give the public the best reason possible to hate you and change their minds about you with a week to go!

What a brilliant game plan Aaron! Not! His gamepan if he has one is suicidal! If he is following a plan it is surely the worst plan in history since Baldrick tied a piece of cheese to his nose to catch a mouse.

Or maybe, he doesn't have a gameplan, and is just being his rather strange self, with all his flaws, which is why so many of us like him and will contiune to vote for him to win

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1572097


Raises some excellent points IMO. IF he has a gameplan, it has gotta be the worst one ever. As most things he has done are more likely to turn the public against him than make him more popular....and as a long time viewers of BB he must know this.

[Niamh.]

haha, it is a great post Vicky. Personally I think most people like Aaron because he's interesting to watch, simple as that really. He's a fascinating character, whether he's playing a game or not I don't really care, I like him and he's made the show so entertaining for me.

[Suze]

As much as I like Aaron, I think any other year him being such a marmite BB housemate, he would have been out about half way through the series if we still had the negative voting. I think the positive voting has helped a lot in keeping the more interesting housemates in, and those housemates who aren't too interesting and swan through to the final by not getting nommed, well that can't be helped, as a couple are bound to slip through.

I am surprised this BB we have had no all housemates up before the final and no double or triple evictions though.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

One of the best posts I have read in quite a long time.



http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1572097


Raises some excellent points IMO. IF he has a gameplan, it has gotta be the worst one ever. As most things he has done are more likely to turn the public against him than make him more popular....and as a long time viewers of BB he must know this.

Good post Vicky,Why would anyone go through what Aaron has if he wants to win,as the post says,he hasn't curried favour with the public,We all may get a huge shock when he comes out and maybe find out he has never had the game plan!!!that we thought he had,

[Cherie]

C5 could have helped us rid ourselves of deadwood by putting the whole house up for eviction, its a shame we never got the chance to boot Tom out before the final...so next year C5 whole house up at least once in the series.

[rusticgal]

Maybe he is a mole.... and thats why BB are giving him such bad press and bad editing cos he is in danger of winning!!!....now that would make sense...lol...

I love Aaron...he has been unique and the more anti Aaron posts and the more crap he gets on BBOTS..the more I support him.He has made this years show.To think that Louise,Tom and Alex are still there when they have added nothing to the show...beats me!!.
I like Faye although she has messed more with Aarons head than he has her...she has bitched about him and nominated him unyet Aaron gets the blame fo messing her around.He is a complex character but apart from the kiss with Maisey at the beginning he has been totally loyal with Faye albeit his occassional sulks....Faye has been far worse.

Aaron simply deserves to win....and I will vote and vote and vote and support him till the end.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Maybe he is a mole.... and thats why BB are giving him such bad press and bad editing cos he is in danger of winning!!!....now that would make sense...lol...

I love Aaron...he has been unique and the more anti Aaron posts and the more crap he gets on BBOTS..the more I support him.He has made this years show.To think that Louise,Tom and Alex are still there when they have added nothing to the show...beats me!!.
I like Faye although she has messed more with Aarons head than he has her...she has bitched about him and nominated him unyet Aaron gets the blame fo messing her around.He is a complex character but apart from the kiss with Maisey at the beginning he has been totally loyal with Faye albeit his occassional sulks....Faye has been far worse.

Aaron simply deserves to win....and I will vote and vote and vote and support him till the end.

Had to laugh at the video on C5 site earlier tonight. Aaron and Faye wanted a quick kiss and cuddle so cooked up a go at each other, so they could nip to the store room quick for their kiss and cuddle. But it looks like the other housemates weren't fooled by the pair of them

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by CherieB

C5 could have helped us rid ourselves of deadwood by putting the whole house up for eviction, its a shame we never got the chance to boot Tom out before the final...so next year C5 whole house up at least once in the series.

Doesn't always work though. Fans get tactical in their voting.

-remembers Nikki's eviction in BB7-

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Doesn't always work though. Fans get tactical in their voting.

-remembers Nikki's eviction in BB7-

That was everyone up with vote to evict though wasnt it?

Vote to save is different. If you want someone OUT you would have to vote for loads of other people multiple times

[Nine Lives]

Yep.

I'm honestly surprised by how the chirpy bland people who are following the lead of previous winners are lauded for being "real" and "true to themselves", while Aaron, whose behavior doesn't remotely resemble previous winners, is chided for being a "game player", and everything he does is labeled as manipulative.

The most manipulation we've seen from him was in his VT and audition tapes. Somehow Aaron's tapes are taken at face value, while everyone else's are dismissed as "oh, that's just how they tried to get on the show". (Wasn't Jay's about how much sex he had in Thailand with prostitutes? Am I remembering that right?) Yet Aaron is really the manipulative, arrogant mastermind of his tapes, and everything he does in the house is fake and calculated.

Aaron's really bared his soul in there, and exposed a complicated, flawed personality that seems far more three-dimensional than what the others are allowing us to see on TV. I have no doubt that Alex, Jay, Louise, and Tom are all complex, interesting people, but I couldn't tell you how. (Faye I will say has been an onion, as she said tonight on Bit on the Side, for better or for worse.)

As far as manipulation, we have seen him try to manipulate people - badly! He's been nominated more times than anyone else this year! So how he's suddenly playing this blinder of a game with Faye really, really baffles me.

Even if he's playing up for the camera at times - which they all are - I think Aaron's still the most "real" of all of them. For all the housemates who've come out of the house and accused Aaron of manipulating the audience, I think they just fail to understand why he's so well-liked. Of course they're resentful, they weren't liked as much.

It takes true guts to go on TV and bear this much to the cameras, especially with that much money on the line. Aaron's got more guts than any of them, and isn't afraid to let it all hang out, for better or for worse.

Aaron to win!

[chuff me dizzy]

I doubt very much Aaron has more of a gameplan than anyone else in there ,you could look at a few of them and see they all have sussed it out

[djr2514]

Aaron's game plan is to entertain the tv audience and win the game. Why does he sulk and not get along with others? He gets more camera time which equals more fans. Yes he could of been boring like tom/alex with their childish games, but read the boards people are getting borred with them, and alex has a web page with pics of her kissing another girl. Also Tom has been a good person in there done what he is told for tasks, but is that entertaining enough for him to win, no. People want Tom out first at the finals. I guess he could be disgusting like Lou and Jay farting and pooing in freezer, but a lot of people find them disgusting and want them out. So by Aaron breaking the mode and being difficult in there he is the most favorite to win and I think he will win. So tell me again why he should of played different?

[jet]

So lets look at Aaron. What's he done to endear himself to his housemates and the viewers?

Be constantly moody and sulky.
Don't be a team player.
Pretend to fancy some housemates and then make them jealous by snogging someone else.
Deliberately fail tasks when your Housemates are desperate for food.
Get together with a girl 10 years younger than you and then keep falling out with her and upsetting her and ignoring her (that will endear him to all the female viewers and parents out there!)

You betray all your friends and girlfriend and give the public the best reason possible to hate you and change their minds about you with a week to go!

Nice to see an Aaron fan admitting that Aaron actually did the things others have been seeing all along. They have always been denied. *sniff*

[Incensed]

Cos so many peeps like him, I'm really trying to myself. Not to be a sheep or anything, his moods and petulance just drive me to distraction and I'm really trying to see what the attraction is.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by jet

Nice to see an Aaron fan admitting that Aaron actually did the things others have been seeing all along. They have always been denied. *sniff*

So your admitting he doesnt have a gameplan then?

Or perhaps he didnt 'betray' anyone except Louise, but it was generally perceived as his fault Faye was up due to awful editing and every other HM lining up to kick him cause they know hes a favourite to win.

[jet]

Originally Posted by RodHull

So your admitting he doesnt have a gameplan then?

Or perhaps he didnt 'betray' anyone except Louise, but it was generally perceived as his fault Faye was up due to awful editing and every other HM lining up to kick him cause they know hes a favourite to win.

Of course he has a gameplan, but he's lousy at it. But when he topped the votes every time he was up for eviction, he realized that he should carry on with what he was doing as people must like it. So more moods, more devious behaviour - and many obviously do like it, though why on earth why I have no idea.
His actions are so contrived it is embarrassing, and his awareness of where the camera is (especially when he is snogging Faye) is nauseating.
Previously the fans insisted he had NO game plan. Then when Anton and Harry insisted that he had, many fans turned completely and hailed him as the master game planner. Now it has completely turned around again. I'm dizzy at the speed of which they change their minds to suit.
The truth is that many Aaron fans are stubborn and won't admit they were wrong - so he may well win. There will be plenty of 'I want to be proved right' votes. That's not what BB is about, and the whole spirit of it will be lost. God knows where BB will go from here in the years to come.

There are reasons many people can't stand him, and it has nothing to do with an Aaron hate conspiracy. There is hardly ever a guest on BOTS or OKTV that doesn't see through him - they have their own independent opinion but because it doesn't match those of Aaron fans they are part of some master conspiracy. Such nonsense.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by jet

Of course he has a gameplan, but he's lousy at it. But when he topped the votes every time he was up for eviction, he realized that he should carry on with what he was doing as people must like it. So more moods, more devious behaviour - and many obviously do like it, though why on earth why I have no idea.
His actions are so contrived it is embarrassing, and his awareness of where the camera is (especially when he is snogging Faye) is nauseating.
Previously the fans insisted he had NO game plan. Then when Anton and Harry insisted that he had, many fans turned completely and hailed him as the master game planner. Now it has completely turned around again. I'm dizzy at the speed of which they change their minds to suit.
The truth is that many Aaron fans are stubborn and won't admit they were wrong - so he may well win. There will be plenty of 'I want to be proved right' votes. That's not what BB is about, and the whole spirit of it will be lost. God knows where BB will go from here in the years to come.

There are reasons many people can't stand him, and it has nothing to do with an Aaron hate conspiracy. There is hardly ever a guest on BOTS or OKTV that doesn't see through him - they have their own independent opinion but because it doesn't match those of Aaron fans they are part of some master conspiracy. Such nonsense.

So he has a gameplan but its rubbish and everyone apart from everyone on ths forum and the 100s of 1000s who vote and keep him in totally agree with you??

Can I have some of what your smoking? Also selective memory much? His battle with the wolfpack (which he won with a cracking smile on his face) was legendary, his early humourous times with Tom (before he went bunnyboiler) and Harry were also great. In fact the only miserable sulky times he has had have totally reflected what most normal people thought.

He copped the ump with Jay offensive jokes and behaviour - check I would to. He copped the ump when they pathetically tried to be 'entertaining' by throwing food around - check I would to etc etc

What you cant stomach is that someone who you dont like is so liked. They all have gameplans of one form or another. They all feed off the public adoration, thats what BB is about. So what exactly is your point, how is he any different to anyone else.

Nothing he does is contrived, the reason he looks for the cameras is to hide as he knows Faye is a bit weird and awkward about it. Jay on the other hand virtually eye ***ks the camera lens, as does Louise with her feeble flirty glances right down the camera and poor attempts to hide her laughter in serious situations.

PS: Oh really dont start using that pit of crap that is BOTS as a valid reason to bash him. Its a scripted show, E Willis is on message, the 'fans' are mostly dullards who have nothing better to do each night than turn up for that crap and the panels are usually fairly split about him.

Indeed Liam (from BB? cant remember) who won that cash and seemed a really nice lad, said he couldnt understand the hatred and vitriol toward Aaron and all he thought he was guilty of was being a bit moody.

[jet]

So he has a gameplan but its rubbish and everyone apart from everyone on ths forum and the 100s of 1000s who vote and keep him in totally agree with you??

Not everyone on this forum agrees with YOU.

In fact the only miserable sulky times he has had have totally reflected what most normal people thought.

Speak for yourself.

He copped the ump with Jay offensive jokes and behaviour - check I would to. He copped the ump when they pathetically tried to be 'entertaining' by throwing food around - check I would to etc etc

So you are Aaron's 'twin' - and cop every ump he cops. Good for you.

What you cant stomach is that someone who you dont like is so liked. They all have gameplans of one form or another. They all feed off the public adoration, thats what BB is about. So what exactly is your point, how is he any different to anyone else.

I don't think you really want me to tell you.

Nothing he does is contrived, the reason he looks for the cameras is to hide as he knows Faye is a bit weird and awkward about it.

Then why grab her for a snog (both times) when the camera is right beside them and pointing at them? He does it when he is on his OWN plenty as well.

PS: Oh really dont start using that pit of crap that is BOTS as a valid reason to bash him. Its a scripted show, E Willis is on message, the 'fans' are mostly dullards who have nothing better to do each night than turn up for that crap and the panels are usually fairly split about him.

I didn't mention the fans, they are the same most of the time. I was talking about the panel guests who are FAR from split about him. I can't recall ONE guest in the last few weeks who has anything good to say about him - quite the opposite.

Indeed Liam (from BB? cant remember) who won that cash and seemed a really nice lad, said he couldnt understand the hatred and vitriol toward Aaron and all he thought he was guilty of was being a bit moody.

So Liam the oracle has spoken. That proves Aaron must be great.
Hate is a strong word. I don't hate Aaron - I think he is manipulative, immature, self - centered and a wet fish and yes, I don't understand BB fans admiration for him. I really don't. But I don't hate him - lets say I don't think he would be a worthy winner because I don't admire his behaviour.

[psychtracker]

It was Anton really, who perpetuated this myth that he was a genius manipulator, studied in the game...and then to a lessor extent Harry. His only great move was getting Jay to vote for Harry that time, and have him and Faye avoid being nominated. If he was as clever and cunning as some claim, he likely would've been gone weeks ago. I think the reason he's done so well, and lasted as long as he has, is because of all the flaws in his game plan.

[thesheriff443]

aaron has survived beacuse other housemates have just put up with his sulks not wanting to rock the boat to much and put a negative on their own chances!

[Tourmaline]

I really hope Aaron wins he so deserves it

[StraightEdge695]

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

I really hope Aaron wins he so deserves it

this

[MTVN]

I agree with that post, I don't think he's playing a game and never have done, it seems to me though that there's a division between his fans; there seems to be those who go on about what a great gameplayer he is and considering it's a positive thing, and then the rest are insistent that he's genuine and not trying to play anyone

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I agree with that post, I don't think he's playing a game and never have done, it seems to me though that there's a division between his fans; there seems to be those who go on about what a great gameplayer he is and considering it's a positive thing, and then the rest are insistent that he's genuine and not trying to play anyone

I dont think so, its all about being realistic.

As BB fans surely anyone with a brain accepts that all HMs have a gameplan to some extent. All of them act slightly differently in the house to how they are outside, its impossible not to, being such a fake and weird environment.

When I say hes a gameplayer, I mean he understand the basic concept behind BB, which surprisingly few HMs ever have. Most of them are obsessed with keeping the other HMs onside (Anton is a good example) but forget that the public see all the plotting and scheming.

Aaron totally understand that his HMs dont really matter, he could be up every week as long as the public like him it wont matter. And he has achieved that by being as genuine as anyone can be in the BB house. Do I think hes exactly like this in the real world? No none of them are, or ever have been in any series since BB1.

His gameplan is simple, dont bitch about others, dont be spiteful or nasty, be honest and true and consistent = and holy moses its worked !!!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by RodHull

I dont think so, its all about being realistic.

As BB fans surely anyone with a brain accepts that all HMs have a gameplan to some extent. All of them act slightly differently in the house to how they are outside, its impossible not to, being such a fake and weird environment.

When I say hes a gameplayer, I mean he understand the basic concept behind BB, which surprisingly few HMs ever have. Most of them are obsessed with keeping the other HMs onside (Anton is a good example) but forget that the public see all the plotting and scheming.

Aaron totally understand that his HMs dont really matter, he could be up every week as long as the public like him it wont matter. And he has achieved that by being as genuine as anyone can be in the BB house. Do I think hes exactly like this in the real world? No none of them are, or ever have been in any series since BB1.

His gameplan is simple, dont bitch about others, dont be spiteful or nasty, be honest and true and consistent = and holy moses its worked !!!

I think they all do or say certain things to try and give them a better chance of winning and to endear themselves to the public, that will probably always be at the back of their minds. However to me a "gameplan" suggest some kind of formulaic strategy which I don't believe Aaron has. I don't think he's trying to be someone he's not in order to win votes, I do think we're seeing the real him, and as you say being genuine. But I don't consider it a gameplan to "be genuine", the two seem antithetical to me, you're not playing much of a game and you haven't really got much of a plan if you're just being yourself.

And I don't agree that Anton forgot the public could see his scheming, the opposite in fact, his game plan was for the benefit of the public and he included the viewers in it; that's the kind of gameplayer I like.