[MilkMaid]

death [deth] (noun) 1. the act of dying; the end of life; the total and permanent cessation of all the vital functions of an organism.

Dan is generally pompous and pious and Jemima isn't a racist BUT tonight he was right and she was really annoying!

[GypsyGoth]

[Me. I Am Salman]

People can die for a moment and be resuscitated

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Salman!

People can die for a moment and be resuscitated

That is not death.

[thom_bombadil]

Originally Posted by fingers

That is not death.

It's not 'death', but if she stopped breathing she was technically dead.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thom_bombadil

It's not 'death', but if she stopped breathing she was technically dead.

Technically, no she wasn't. Death occurs several minutes after you stop breathing and your heart stops beating. Her daughter was revived and therefore saved from death. She didn't die.

The closest you could call it is a "near death" incident, but that doesn't translate to "MY DAUGHTER DIED".

[fingers]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Technically, no she wasn't. Death occurs several minutes after you stop breathing and your heart stops beating. Her daughter was revived and therefore saved from death. She didn't die.

The closest you could call it is a "near death" incident, but that doesn't translate to "MY DAUGHTER DIED".

She almost had to have her arm twisted to admit that the child was resuscitated, All the housemates were aghast believing that the child had DIED.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Salman!

People can die for a moment and be resuscitated

They cannot, clearly!
Death is not a short term or temporary thing, unless you're a Zombie!!!

[Me. I Am Salman]

Well Jemima clearly thought otherwise, and I've certainly heard that phrase being used before..

[KingOfTheMods]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Well Jemima clearly thought otherwise, and I've certainly heard that phrase being used before..

Jemima's clearly a twat who thinks all her life experiences are significantly more important and traumatic than other people's. Eff her. Eff everybody.

[smudgie]

Sounds like tne daughter could have had a febrile fit.
Sounds like the mother had a hissy fit.

[Marsh.]

She knows that she just wanted a completely unrelated conversation to suddenly be about her.

"****, I'm up for eviction, blah blah blah blah MY DAUGHTER DIED!!!!"



"Urgh, and then she wasn't."

[Withano]

When I breathe in underwater, am I dead?

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by MilkMaid

death [deth] (noun) 1. the act of dying; the end of life; the total and permanent cessation of all the vital functions of an organism.

Dan is generally pompous and pious and Jemima isn't a racist BUT tonight he was right and she was really annoying!

Couldn't agree more.

[Amy Jade]

You can die and be revived.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

You can die and be revived.

You CANNOT!!!!!!
Death is permanent. You cannot die for a short period of time!

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by JTM45

You CANNOT!!!!!!
Death is permanent. You cannot die for a short period of time!

Yes you can.

[cookiemonster]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Yes you can.

not really. it's called stopped breathing. if they never regain consciousness then they've died

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by cookiemonster

not really. it's called stopped breathing. if they never regain consciousness then they've died

Yes, you really can.

[Indy]

Originally Posted by JTM45

You CANNOT!!!!!!
Death is permanent. You cannot die for a short period of time!

There is a state known as "clinical death", which means the heart and lung functions have ceased. It is medically induced during certain surgical procedures. It can occur during hypothermia - it is also a reason hypothermia is also used as a medical treatment, because the chance of permanent injury is reduced. Only with medical intervention is this state reversible, but it is reversible.

Considering no language has a single cut and dried definition of "life", it's a bit silly to be cocksure about death.

[Blue Cadillac]

Death is permanent. If you're revived, it's no longer permanent.

[MilkMaid]

We should probably remember that Jemima originally said her daughter had died in retaliation to Jackie talking about Charlie's grandmother dying in front of her. Unless I'm mistaken, the grandmother has not done a Lazarus, so it was hardly a like-for-like comparison.

Also note that Jemima only mentioned that her daughter's "death" was a temporary thing after a few minutes of one-upmanship! She was quite happy to give the impression that it was the usual version, ie, permanent, presumably for dramatic effect.

Let's be honest, most people when told that someone had died would not expect to have them round for dinner the next week. Unless you're into some very weird stuff...

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by MilkMaid

We should probably remember that Jemima originally said her daughter had died in retaliation to Jackie talking about Charlie's grandmother dying in front of her. Unless I'm mistaken, the grandmother has not done a Lazarus, so it was hardly a like-for-like comparison.

Also note that Jemima only mentioned that her daughter's "death" was a temporary thing after a few minutes of one-upmanship! She was quite happy to give the impression that it was the usual version, ie, permanent, presumably for dramatic effect.

Let's be honest, most people when told that someone had died would not expect to have them round for dinner the next week. Unless you're into some very weird stuff...

I totally agree MilkMaid. Well said

[MTVN]

You can be named 'clinically dead' and then revived so Jemima wasn't enitrely wrong, but the way she talked about it gave the impression that her daughter had completely passed away

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You can be named 'clinically dead' and then revived so Jemima wasn't enitrely wrong, but the way she talked about it gave the impression that her daughter had completely passed away

This.