[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YbQOJ9ewZ8

Youtube video

[erinp5]

1.51am: Luisa has finally left the Diary Room after a long heart-to-heart with Big Brother. It's been a long, emotional evening

[erinp5]

'I want the young ones here because it's like living in an old folk home' that's what upset Lionel.

[Scream]

I'm sure Lionel would be the first to say he'd rather live with the older ones. He's so annoying. He's the only one that is staring to piss me off.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by Scream

I'm sure Lionel would be the first to say he'd rather live with the older ones. He's so annoying. He's the only one that is staring to piss me off.

I feel that way about Luisa .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Scream

I'm sure Lionel would be the first to say he'd rather live with the older ones. He's so annoying. He's the only one that is staring to piss me off.

He has some hypocritical traits that are rather annoying.

[erinp5]

Jim should tell Linda about the menopause comment Luisa made about her .I doubt she would cuddle Luisa and be so understanding .

[Kizzy]

She's always making silly ageist comments like that, I'm stunned she was picked for the apprentice, she's so juvenile.

[jet]

I can understand Lionel being upset whether Luisa meant it as a joke or not. He's 82 after all and fitting in well. It can't be easy being 82 in a house full of people 20 - 60 years younger. He's a game old boy with a young spirit.

[Lowkey]

Like I said before. She can dish it out but can't take it. Watch her play the victim.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by Lowkey

Like I said before. She can dish it out but can't take it. Watch her play the victim.

In a nutshell.

[Jords]

I understand the OAPs point of view.

[Brother Leon]

That Ageism there. Good on Lionel speaking up.

[Z]

This is exactly why I think she has a superiority complex. She cannot understand why other people could possibly comprehend her as being anything other than her perfect self. She doesn't understand why people hate her or misinterpret her, it's their problem, not hers, she knows what she means so why don't other people? Then when she's called out on one of her flaws, she completely loses her cool and can't handle the criticism at all. She absolutely meant what she said but she didn't even for a second think about how that could possibly offend other people, and when it did, she couldn't comprehend why anyone was getting upset with her - which then upset her in turn. She's ridiculous. Just like Lee. No self awareness.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Zee

This is exactly why I think she has a superiority complex. She cannot understand why other people could possibly comprehend her as being anything other than her perfect self. She doesn't understand why people hate her or misinterpret her, it's their problem, not hers, she knows what she means so why don't other people? Then when she's called out on one of her flaws, she completely loses her cool and can't handle the criticism at all. She absolutely meant what she said but she didn't even for a second think about how that could possibly offend other people, and when it did, she couldn't comprehend why anyone was getting upset with her - which then upset her in turn. She's ridiculous. Just like Lee. No self awareness.

Well said!

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by Zee

This is exactly why I think she has a superiority complex. She cannot understand why other people could possibly comprehend her as being anything other than her perfect self. She doesn't understand why people hate her or misinterpret her, it's their problem, not hers, she knows what she means so why don't other people? Then when she's called out on one of her flaws, she completely loses her cool and can't handle the criticism at all. She absolutely meant what she said but she didn't even for a second think about how that could possibly offend other people, and when it did, she couldn't comprehend why anyone was getting upset with her - which then upset her in turn. She's ridiculous. Just like Lee. No self awareness.

It is ONE way of looking at it. Perhaps she is frustrated that she is not understood by other people. A person with many ideas coming into their head may find it difficult to choose one, focus on it and communicate it. She may not even know she is perceived as having a Superiority Complex. Simply reflects and has the attitudes of her parents and friends. Going outside of that group she finds that she is not understood. We think we hear words we understand but how sure are we that her meaning is correctly communicated.
Perhaps when you say she is not handling criticism something else like frustrations of being misunderstood is what is actually being shown.

I make this deduction based on the way she must have in her business life handled failure as a learning process to adjust it to success.

[Z]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

It is ONE way of looking at it. Perhaps she is frustrated that she is not understood by other people. A person with many ideas coming into their head may find it difficult to choose one, focus on it and communicate it. She may not even know she is perceived as having a Superiority Complex. Simply reflects and has the attitudes of her parents and friends. Going outside of that group she finds that she is not understood. We think we hear words we understand but how sure are we that her meaning is correctly communicated.
Perhaps when you say she is not handling criticism something else like frustrations of being misunderstood is what is actually being shown.

I make this deduction based on the way she must have in her business life handled failure as a learning process to adjust it to success.

This is why I love when I really get into a series of Big Brother, and especially this series in particular, because I find that one minute I have a particular opinion, will post it and then find there's a really great response that challenges my opinion and a new way of looking at a situation. Great post ! I think you're right, she is frustrated at being misunderstood because it seems to happen to her a lot - her meaning is rarely correctly communicated, something she can recognise, because she intends words in one way and they're often taken in another. What she fails to do is understand why her words are taken the wrong way, and how to avoid making the same mistake in the future... she's a welcome relief from the Casey/Lee/Jasmine stuff, that's for sure.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

It is ONE way of looking at it. Perhaps she is frustrated that she is not understood by other people. A person with many ideas coming into their head may find it difficult to choose one, focus on it and communicate it. She may not even know she is perceived as having a Superiority Complex. Simply reflects and has the attitudes of her parents and friends. Going outside of that group she finds that she is not understood. We think we hear words we understand but how sure are we that her meaning is correctly communicated.
Perhaps when you say she is not handling criticism something else like frustrations of being misunderstood is what is actually being shown.

I make this deduction based on the way she must have in her business life handled failure as a learning process to adjust it to success.

I dont think she is being misunderstood I think she uses it as an excuse for her frankly obnoxious personality. Once again it everyone else fault not hers. Everyone else needs to adapt to accommodate her. I find little to like in this woman.

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I dont think she is being misunderstood I think she uses it as an excuse for her frankly obnoxious personality. Once again it everyone else fault not hers. Everyone else needs to adapt to accommodate her. I find little to like in this woman.

Yes it is easy to not like someone. It is harder to take the time to understand someone you don't like. After all what is the point in asking why a person does what we don't like and trying to understand them and thier motives? Lets just stay in our comfort zone and not like it and not try to learn something new.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

Yes it is easy to not like someone. It is harder to take the time to understand someone you don't like. After all what is the point in asking why a person does what we don't like and trying to understand them and thier motives? Lets just stay in our comfort zone and not like it and not try to learn something new.

What about that person asking themselves why they rub people the wrong way? In my experience when someone is supposedly constantly misunderstood the problem usually lies with them and not with everyone else.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zee

This is exactly why I think she has a superiority complex. She cannot understand why other people could possibly comprehend her as being anything other than her perfect self. She doesn't understand why people hate her or misinterpret her, it's their problem, not hers, she knows what she means so why don't other people? Then when she's called out on one of her flaws, she completely loses her cool and can't handle the criticism at all. She absolutely meant what she said but she didn't even for a second think about how that could possibly offend other people, and when it did, she couldn't comprehend why anyone was getting upset with her - which then upset her in turn. She's ridiculous. Just like Lee. No self awareness.

Spot on.

[Northern Monkey]

She should have just appologised as soon as she realised she'd been offensive,That would've defused the whole argument.

[Z]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

She should have just appologised as soon as she realised she'd been offensive,That would've defused the whole argument.

Should have... but, if I'm right in my judgment of her, it's not in her nature to apologise, because Luisa cannot accept that she could have made a mistake. Even her apologies aren't even worded in a way that admits error on her behalf - she's sorry that people are upset with her; she isn't sorry that they are upset. She's sorry that people have a problem with her, she's not sorry for the problem.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Zee

Should have... but, if I'm right in my judgment of her, it's not in her nature to apologise, because Luisa cannot accept that she could have made a mistake. Even her apologies aren't even worded in a way that admits error on her behalf - she's sorry that people are upset with her; she isn't sorry that they are upset. She's sorry that people have a problem with her, she's not sorry for the problem.

Yeah,I think you maybe right there.

[Z]

I do have to say though... being unapologetic for who you are and what you think is a quality that gets a person far in life; no wonder she was on The Apprentice, she's got the kind of personality that allows her to have complete confidence in her decisions. That's an admirable quality to possess, I think, even if in situations like this, it lands her in trouble.