[Jake.]

His comments from Loose Women.. Do you agree?

Poll incoming

[smudgie]

his comments may be out dated accordng to him, but he js fully aware that it is racist now. He was warned by BB the first time so should have abstained the second time.

[Pincho Paxton]

It's neither. It's inaccurate to use a Nigerian term on people who are not from Nigeria, but the feeling of insult is part of the psyche of the individual being insulted.

If people called me Frenchy, and I'm from England I am not insulted. My psyche is tolerant of the wording.

[Denver]

Its both TBH

[Niamh.]

Also the first time he used the word he was talking like he was talking to a slave which is highly racist

[Liam-]

No i don't agree, as Smudgie said, he is fully aware of the connotations and the consequences he would receive if he used them

[Kizzy]

I think you should clarify which N word.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think you should clarify which N word.

The N word he used.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think you should clarify which N word.

He only used one N word Kizzy

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He only used one N word Kizzy

He used 2 terms... ******, and negro. Hmmm negro is unfiltered interesting!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

He used 2 terms... ******, and negro. Hmmm negro is unfiltered interesting!

When did he use ******? Are sure about that?

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

When did he use the ******?

I think he said it first, and then For Frank Bruno used the unfiltered version.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

He used 2 terms... ******, and negro.

He didn't, he used the second term you've posted twice, both in different conversations.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He only used one N word Kizzy

I think what she means is what word did he use i think?

the one Emily(BB8) used or the other one

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I think what she means is what word did he use i think?

the one Emily(BB8) used or the other one

No she's fully aware of what term he used

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No she's fully aware of what term he used

Oh i read it wrong

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No she's fully aware of what term he used

Of course I am, I was asking the OP which N word they meant.

[poppsywoppsy]

I agree that it was outdated. The second time he was recalling a situation, word for word and thought if Frank Bruno hadn't minded, it was OK.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt there.

I am of an older generation, I have to correct my mother at times over her references, which were perfectly acceptable in her earlier life and are a no no now.

So many things are different and if you were brought up to think things were right or wrong then, only to find the total reverse is correct today, some older people need to know what is acceptable and need to be informed.

Who knows, many of the things we find acceptable today might not be the case in the future and we will have to modify our thoughts again.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I agree that it was outdated. The second time he was recalling a situation, word for word and thought if Frank Bruno hadn't minded, it was OK.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt there.

I am of an older generation, I have to correct my mother at times over her references, which were perfectly acceptable in her earlier life and are a no no now.

So many things are different and if you were brought up to think things were right or wrong then, only to find the total reverse is correct today, some older people need to know what is acceptable and need to be informed.

Who knows, many of the things we find acceptable today might not be the case in the future and we will have to modify our thoughts again.

Well said....I totally agree with you. The first time he used it he slipped into 'role play' with the accent etc.....although that doesn't make it acceptable.
But you are so right with the generation thing. My dad once used a word pointing out a team mate at my sons football match...it wasn't that bad but I didn't like him using it....it didn't seem right!!

[Kizzy]

He said Negro not N***** and it wasn't filtered as it's not seen as an offensive term seemingly.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He said Negro not N***** and it wasn't filtered as it's not seen as an offensive term seemingly.

So if you knew which he used why did you ask?

[Withano]

Its literally the embodiment of racism. The people who are defending him in anyway are shameful.

[Northern Monkey]

The first time he said it was blatent racism 'fat negro'.The second time he said it he was relaying a conversation he had previously had so was not trying to offend anyone.However he knew it would get him kicked as he'd been previously warned about using the word.

[MTVN]

Well it's outdated because it's now considered racially offensive, kinda silly of him to make out its two different issues

It has a very different history to the other N word though so I don't think they should be treated the same

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well it's outdated because it's now considered racially offensive, kinda silly of him to make out its two different issues

It has a very different history to the other N word though so I don't think they should be treated the same

Not exactly the same no but the way he used the word to Alexander made it as bad as the other N word