[Benjamin]

I have seen a few people who are incapable of understanding some of the problems Alicis has including her ability to recite the alphabet.

Maybe you should have a little read of this and educate yourselves.

Dyslexia is a common learning difficulty that mainly affects the way people read and spell words.

Signs and symptoms

Dyslexia is a spectrum disorder, with symptoms ranging from mild to severe.

People with dyslexia have particular difficulty with:

phonological awareness
verbal memory
rapid serial naming
verbal processing speed

These terms are explained in more detail below.

Phonological awareness
Phonological awareness is thought to be a key skill in early reading and spelling development. It is the ability to identify how words are made up of smaller units of sound, known as phonemes. Changes in the sounds that make up words can lead to changes in their meaning.
For example, a child with a good level of phonological awareness would understand that if you change the letter "p" in the word "pat" to "s", the word becomes "sat".

Verbal memory
Verbal memory is the ability to remember a sequence of verbal information for a short period of time.
For example, the ability to remember a short list such as "red, blue, green", or a set of simple instructions, such as "Put on your gloves and your hat, find the lead for the dog and then go to the park."

Rapid serial naming
This is the ability to name a series of colours, objects or numbers as fast as possible.

Verbal processing speed
Verbal processing speed is the time it takes to process and recognise familiar verbal information, such as letters and digits.
For example, someone with a good verbal processing speed has the ability to quickly write down unfamiliar words when they are spelled out, or write down telephone numbers they are told.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Dyslexi...roduction.aspx

[smudgie]

Such a shame she wasn't given more attention when she was younger.

I wonder if she has ever been diagnosed or if she has self diagnosed.
Took years for my daughter to get her diagnosis, schools were not really interested or capable at the time.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Such a shame she wasn't given more attention when she was younger.

I wonder if she has ever been diagnosed or if she has self diagnosed.
Took years for my daughter to get her diagnosis, schools were not really interested or capable at the time.

I have an older sister, now in her 60s who has it. She had dreadful time at school duriing the 50s&60s, and was eventually put in a special school for subnormal children! Fortunately for her we had caring (but poor)parents who took her out of it and set up an apprenticeship with textile firm. where she trained and became a very skilled seamstress, a job she continued with until retirement a couple years ago. She was eventually diagnosed in her mid forties
when she went to adult literacy classes to try and improve things, the class helped her a lot. I think its disgraceful that Alicias shool/parents didnt do anything for her.

[Josy]

I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Josy

I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

Couldn't agree more.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

Good initial post Benjamin...thank you, but unfortunately its not going to shame those who said it. Fortunately some of us were brought up not to mock the afflicted and if we do have something to say, to at least educate ourselves first.

MTVN made a comment about her being narcissistic. Alicia is as far away from narcissism as the rest of us are from Mars. There clearly are narcissists in the house but Alicia isn't one of them.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't agree with the thick comments and calling her slow things like that, that said I agree with pretty much everything you have said in your post apart from the boobs comment because I think that could possibly be down to the body dysmorphia?

And the comments I have made about dyslexia in this thread and others are definitely NOT to defend everything Alicia has said and done in the house.

The comment about having to home school her daughter just did not make sense to me, how can you 'not afford' to send your child to school when schools are free and by the sounds of it the child would have a better education there?

It might be but she's been in rehab 3/4 times(?), she's realised how destructive her plastic surgery addiction was, she's had most of it out now and she says she's happy with herself. Crazy to have had all those experiences and still come out with comments like that

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Good initial post Benjamin...thank you, but unfortunately its not going to shame those who said it. Fortunately some of us were brought up not to mock the afflicted and if we do have something to say, to at least educate ourselves first.

MTVN made a comment about her being narcissistic. Alicia is as far away from narcissism as the rest of us are from Mars. There clearly are narcissists in the house but Alicia isn't one of them.

Why not? Narcissism is just an obsession with your own image and vanity, I'm guessing you would say she isn't narcissistic because she's quite mentally fragile and not that confident in herself but that doesn't preclude narcissism

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Why not? Narcissism is just an obsession with your own image and vanity, I'm guessing you would say she isn't narcissistic because she's quite mentally fragile and not that confident in herself but that doesn't preclude narcissism

There is a whole lot more to Narcissistic personality disorder than self obsession. If any one of us went down the long list of Narcissistic character traits, every one of us would tick off a few boxes but those few boxes are meaningless.

No I'm not saying she isn't narcissistic because she's mentally fragile. Mental fragility is very much a trait of a narcissist.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

#BanThem

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Josy

I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

I for one would sympathise for anyone with it but I really don't think she has it,have you a link to her story?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I for one would sympathise for anyone with it but I really don't think she has it,have you a link to her story?

It's been known for a while, since around 2006 I believe when she first spoke about it. I will try find something on it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It's been known for a while, since around 2006 I believe when she first spoke about it. I will try find something on it.

She should have told them in the house when they were questioning her,then maybe they would have understood the situation better,some one gave me a link Ben ,thanks

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

She should have told them in the house when they were questioning her,then maybe they would have understood the situation better,some one gave me a link Ben ,thanks

The thing is she probably already feels intimidated by them, why would she share something she may be uncomfortable with to the popel digging at her? Besides a few of them do know, since they know her from outside the show, they just seem hell bent on picking at her because she is not like them.

[Pink Pegasus]

Alicia just seems to need a bit of time to gather her thoughts sometimes before she responds, but I think she responds well when she does think about what she wants to say.

Even if the housemates do think she's thick or slow or whatever, I don't see the need for them to go on and on about it. I know people will probably say, oh well they are locked in the house and bored so of course they are going to talk about each other, but I don't see why they have to keep going on mocking something that clearly upsets her. She has said tried to speak up for herself and yet they continue on about it taking the piss. I don't think she has done anything so nasty to them to warrant this behaviour from them, it just seems so unnecessary and a bit cruel.

Thanks for the link about dyslexia btw, I will have a read over it.

[Creggle]

No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Creggle

No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

Dyslexia isnt just about grammar spelling and reading though....

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Creggle

No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

I'm talking about people mocking her for not knowing the alphabet and things like that, that is down to her dyslexia.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I'm talking about people mocking her for not knowing the alphabet and things like that, that is down to her dyslexia.

Who's done this? :/

Originally Posted by Josy

Dyslexia isnt just about grammar spelling and reading though....

No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Who's done this? :/



No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

Not you, but I have seen a few posts on here the last couple of days that have been.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Who's done this? :/



No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

She has been called 'slow', dyslexia can cause reaction to be slower in some people...

She has been called 'thick' because of the way she speaks and according to Callum for not realising straight away whats going on when things are happening in the house, another classic sign of adult dyslexia.

Amy, my nephew has it, when he was younger he had the problems with the writing/reading side of things but funnily enough that went as he got older, he is a very intelligent person but sometimes his reactions are slower than normal, not always but sometimes.

You will very rarely find 2 people that suffer from dyslexia that will have the exact same symptoms.

[Jason.]

I think Luisa was spot on, during BOTS.
She said she doesn't understand why Alicia is ridiculed, as she can't afford to send her child to school, and takes her own time to help her and teach, even though she isn't exactly the most intelligent person.

She then made a spot on point about how mothers would usually just dismiss the problem and leave their children uneducated.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Who's done this? :/



No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

Who's said that people with Dyslexia are thick? It's just the reason why Alicia takes longer to process things is because of her Dyslexia, the reason why I can verify this is because I have a Cousin who's Dyslexic and he takes a while to process things, and any letters or numbers are all back to front and jumbled up, but his very intelligent and definitely runs rings around me and most of the family except for probably my other Cousin.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Creggle

No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

Also, not everyone does know what dyslexia is, especially judging by some of the posts I have seen of late.