[MTVN]

Despite surviving a no confidence vote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-32760196

I'm not sure he can really be blamed for how things went in Scotland but people always need a scapegoat in situations like that I suppose, be interesting to see what his reform plan will look like

[Kizzy]

It does seem unfair, I'm so annoyed that being in the no camp automatically was viewed as being in the same mind as to the split as the tories.

[bots]

Shame really, I like Jim. Unfortunately, even though its not his fault at all, he will forever be seen as the leader when labour got wiped out in Scotland. It has to be someone new at the top

[Kizzy]

Go on, I know someone is dying to say it....

[arista]

Yes he was a fall to stay on.

Utter Bliss

[Lee.]

Good riddance.

[joeysteele]

He faced an impossible task,this was a move to the SNP that had began in 2011 when the SNP took overall control of Holyrood.

No way could he have turned things around, although the losses were greater than thought in the end.

Hard to see who can turn things around quickly,however I am optimistic that seats will start drifting back albeit slowly.
I expect however an easy overall status for the SNP in the Holyrood elections next year 2016 but if Nicola Sturgeon fails to put the desire for another independence in next years manifesto, she may come to regret that.
I believe that is what most of the Scots voting SNP,want her to do and she will not get overall majority status all the time.

[arista]

Jim said Union Boss Len
was wrong.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Jim said Union Boss Len
was wrong.

the unions are pulling the strings

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the unions are pulling the strings

Of Course


Joey says that the right way

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Of Course


Joey says that the right way

Joey can speak ably for himself thank you, to those he wants to that is.
I said I agree with the Unions having a say,not control.
They do not have control, otherwise Labour would be really even more to the left than the SNP currently are.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Joey can speak ably for himself thank you, to those he wants to that is.
I said I agree with the Unions having a say,not control.
They do not have control, otherwise Labour would be really even more to the left than the SNP currently are.

Yes but the Problem is
They Demand Control.

Ask your Dad about Unions
for feck sake

[Crimson Dynamo]

the last lady resigned due to labour being treated badly by labour london and now this clown resigns

the whole party is a rudderless mess

what a total farce

[JoshBB]

Last thing they need is a Blairite in scotland

[Crimson Dynamo]

what a mess


no wonder millions are voting elsewhere

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sometimes you just need to admit its a disaster

And for labour

It is

[joeysteele]

Also arista, parties go up and down all the time, it was said, labour could never come back and see the Alliance off in the mid 80s, they did.

The Conservatives looked doomed to many too in 1997 when Blair rode in,reducing them to under 170 seats.
That looked even moreso when in 2001 he got almost the exact same result as in 1997.

However back they came too.
Politics is a series of peaks and troughs, the only thing that has really changed is the lower proportions of votes both main parties now win in elections.

I am sure labour will begin to recover in Scotland over the next 5 years,not short term however.
Also even for the next election,a very small number of seats changing hands will remove in an instant the overall majority this govt; currently has.
In fact a few by elections can do that very easily over this parliament.

I also believe the Lib Dems will come back too,maybe not to the level they attained in 2005 and 2010 but enough to be a force again too.

The one I feel could now greatly recede,because it is a one man band and will have little relevance after the EU referendum, is UKIP.
This is the election they should have their Lib Dem moment in, it never came near to doing so, despite achieving 3,800,000 votes,that was nothing like the over 6,000,000 votes the Lib Dems got used to.
I would never write parties off however, once down on the bottom, the only way is back up.

[erinp5]

Well done Jim for naming Mc Cluskey !!! and one member one vote is the only way forward.