[chuff me dizzy]

Easy question.....Do you think Harry was lying about what Sam was doing ?

[Josy]

Yes.

I also think a decent person (or friend since Harry claims she was friends with Sam but Marc ruined it) would have covered Sam up and left it there, not run back to the other housemates laughing and making actions that described Sam as masturbating AND then attempt to make Sam feel uncomfortable about it on the sofas.

In the highlights description it states that when Harry is in the DR she 'denies lying about the incident'

[Vanessa]

Maybe she just jumped to conclusions? Either way she should have kept quiet.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yes.

I also think a decent person (or friend since Harry claims she was friends with Sam but Marc ruined it) would have covered Sam up and left it there, not run back to the other housemates laughing and making actions that described Sam as masturbating AND then attempt to make Sam feel uncomfortable about it on the sofas.

In the highlights description it states that when Harry is in the DR she 'denies lying about the incident'

Harry told the others because she found it funny. It was funny so..

Nick and Joel brought it up at the sofas. Harry clarified what she saw.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Harry told the others because she found it funny. It was funny so..

Nick and Joel brought it up at the sofas. Harry clarified what she saw.

Told the others a lie.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Josy

Told the others a lie.

That cannot be established due to the view we as viewers had.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

That cannot be established due to the view we as viewers had.

It can be established due to the highlights description confirming it....

[Niamh.]

what happened?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

what happened?

This is from the highlights description

· Late last night, Sam was sleeping in the bed with her bottom half uncovered and her hand on her underwear. Some of the Housemates were laughing at her. Harry approached her bed and covered her up.

Then Harry ran back to the other housemates making fingering motions (as if Sam was masturbating) she then said on the sofas the next day that it was very graphic etc

Danny was a bit of a prick about it all too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

This is from the highlights description



Then Harry ran back to the other housemates making fingering motions (as if Sam was masturbating) she then said on the sofas the next day that it was very graphic etc

Danny was a bit of a prick about it all too.

Oh :/ This house is so grim

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Josy

This is from the highlights description

If Sam had on underwear how come Danny said that he saw 'everything' ?

[Ellen]

She was lying imo.

I agree with Josy, any decent person would have just covered her over and left it at that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MrWong

If Sam had on underwear how come Danny said that he saw 'everything' ?

Some underwear is not tight to the skin,as in French knickers,I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Some underwear is not tight to the skin,as in French knickers,I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

So the highlights description doesn't mean much then as she could still be displaying her vag whilst wearing underwear.

[Lister of Smeg]

Im saying yes because im convinced she's made it her mission to spite certain people in there Sam being one of them.

[Liam-]

I think she saw what she saw, whether she got it wrong or not is completely different, a couple of housemates said they saw her with her hand at her crotch, so she obviously saw that, if she got it wrong, then that's just a mistake and everyone makes them.

But lets not pretend that she was the only one making comments and making Sam 'uncomfortable' - which she clearly wasn't - please, there was a load of them doing it.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I think she saw what she saw, whether she got it wrong or not is completely different, a couple of housemates said they saw her with her hand at her crotch, so she obviously saw that, if she got it wrong, then that's just a mistake and everyone makes them.

But lets not pretend that she was the only one making comments and making Sam 'uncomfortable' - which she clearly wasn't - please, there was a load of them doing it.

Um Harry clearly did not just say her hand was at her crotch, come on you know for a fact what she implied.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Um Harry clearly did not just say her hand was at her crotch, come on you know for a fact what she implied.

Where did i say that she did? I said she saw what she saw, other people clearly saw the hand on the crotch, if Harry got it wrong, which she may have done, then she got it wrong, do I think she deliberately lied to get at Sam? no, i don't think she's that person whatsoever.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Where did i say that she did? I said she saw what she saw, other people clearly saw the hand on the crotch, if Harry got it wrong, which she may have done, then she got it wrong, do I think she deliberately lied to get at Sam? no, i don't think she's that person whatsoever.

The thread is asking a specific question though Liam, yes Sam did have her hand on her crotch, but that isn't what Harry said she saw, im pretty sure Harry of all people can clearly see a difference between a hand resting on a crotch and 'graphic fingering' so she blatantly lied about what she saw.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

The thread is asking a specific question though Liam, yes Sam did have her hand on her crotch, but that isn't what Harry said she saw, im pretty sure Harry of all people can clearly see a difference between a hand resting on a crotch and 'graphic fingering' so she blatantly lied about what she saw.

And like i said, I don't think she purposely lied, did she see the hand on the crotch? yes, could she have interpreted it as something else? yes, do i think she went out of her way to make up a lie, just to embarrass/humiliate Sam in front of everyone and on tv? No.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Where did i say that she did? I said she saw what she saw, other people clearly saw the hand on the crotch, if Harry got it wrong, which she may have done, then she got it wrong, do I think she deliberately lied to get at Sam? no, i don't think she's that person whatsoever.

An hand on a crotch and what Harry said she was doing is totally different

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

An hand on a crotch and what Harry said she was doing is totally different

Exactly

[Josy]

Oh it's the drinks fault now

Grubby Harry got caught out lying again.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Josy

Oh it's the drinks fault now

Grubby Harry got caught out lying again.

That's not been proven by you or anyone else.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

That's not been proven by you or anyone else.

It was proven by the people that wrote up the highlights description, the description that was posted on the forum then it was proven on the HIGHLIGHTS show when we witness Sam laying completely still, asleep until Harry disturbed her, then she slightly moved.