[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Um Harry clearly did not just say her hand was at her crotch, come on you know for a fact what she implied.

Where did i say that she did? I said she saw what she saw, other people clearly saw the hand on the crotch, if Harry got it wrong, which she may have done, then she got it wrong, do I think she deliberately lied to get at Sam? no, i don't think she's that person whatsoever.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Where did i say that she did? I said she saw what she saw, other people clearly saw the hand on the crotch, if Harry got it wrong, which she may have done, then she got it wrong, do I think she deliberately lied to get at Sam? no, i don't think she's that person whatsoever.

The thread is asking a specific question though Liam, yes Sam did have her hand on her crotch, but that isn't what Harry said she saw, im pretty sure Harry of all people can clearly see a difference between a hand resting on a crotch and 'graphic fingering' so she blatantly lied about what she saw.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

The thread is asking a specific question though Liam, yes Sam did have her hand on her crotch, but that isn't what Harry said she saw, im pretty sure Harry of all people can clearly see a difference between a hand resting on a crotch and 'graphic fingering' so she blatantly lied about what she saw.

And like i said, I don't think she purposely lied, did she see the hand on the crotch? yes, could she have interpreted it as something else? yes, do i think she went out of her way to make up a lie, just to embarrass/humiliate Sam in front of everyone and on tv? No.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And like i said, I don't think she purposely lied, did she see the hand on the crotch? yes, could she have interpreted it as something else? yes, do i think she went out of her way to make up a lie, just to embarrass/humiliate Sam in front of everyone and on tv? No.

You don't think Harry, that works in the sex industry could clearly tell if someone was resting a hand on a crotch or graphically masturbating?

She had a good enough look...

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

You don't think Harry, that works in the sex industry could clearly tell if someone was resting a hand on a crotch or graphically masturbating?

She had a good enough look...

They'd all been drinking, everything was probably heightened, things get exaggerated, I'm not going to call for her head on a platter for, what i believe to be, an honest mistake.

Besides, we already know that Sam gets a bit frisky when she's had a drink don't we? she could have been.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And like i said, I don't think she purposely lied, did she see the hand on the crotch? yes, could she have interpreted it as something else? yes, do i think she went out of her way to make up a lie, just to embarrass/humiliate Sam in front of everyone and on tv? No.

Quite easily. Sam might have been scratching her vag which could be interpreted as fingering.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Where did i say that she did? I said she saw what she saw, other people clearly saw the hand on the crotch, if Harry got it wrong, which she may have done, then she got it wrong, do I think she deliberately lied to get at Sam? no, i don't think she's that person whatsoever.

An hand on a crotch and what Harry said she was doing is totally different

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

An hand on a crotch and what Harry said she was doing is totally different

Exactly