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Crimson Dynamo · 06-10-2015, 04:53 PM

yep good ol USA at it again

An 11-year-old boy in the US state of Tennessee has been held on suspicion of shooting dead an eight-year-old girl in a row over a puppy.

The boy has been charged with first-degree murder as a juvenile.
According to police, he shot neighbour McKayla Dyer on Saturday evening after she refused to let him see her puppy.

In another fatal child shooting case, authorities said on Monday that an 11-year-old boy fatally shot his brother while target shooting in Ohio.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34450841

Dollface · 06-10-2015, 04:56 PM

Jesus, how do these kids even get hold of guns?!

Kazanne · 06-10-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface

Jesus, how do these kids even get hold of guns?!

Dopey parents leaving them accessible.

kirklancaster · 06-10-2015, 05:15 PM

Seriously - I would charge the idiotic fecking parents with 'Facilating Murder', 'Accessory To Murder' or some other offence.

Dollface · 06-10-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Dopey parents leaving them accessible.

People that stupid don't deserve kids. If they feel they need to have a gun in their home, why not lock it up somewhere safe?

arista · 06-10-2015, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface

People that stupid don't deserve kids. If they feel they need to have a gun in their home, why not lock it up somewhere safe?

You Fly out there and say that to them
I do not think so

They are the lower class

kirklancaster · 06-10-2015, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface

People that stupid don't deserve kids. If they feel they need to have a gun in their home, why not lock it up somewhere safe?

EXACTLY.

arista · 06-10-2015, 05:10 PM

Yes very sad they live on a trailer park
it was on SkyNewsHD
early this morning.

That girl did not trust that boy with her puppy
But the 11 year old went straight
into his dads room grabbed the Shotgun
and fired close to her.

Life In America

Crimson Dynamo · 06-10-2015, 05:41 PM

Do you know the hoops we have to go through in the UK to own a shotgun?

There one is lying around a bloody caravan with kids playing outside?

what kind of 3rd world country?

DemolitionRed · 06-10-2015, 05:53 PM

Nearly 1,500 children younger than 18 years of age die from shootings every year.

More American homes have guns than dogs.

1 in 3 families with children have at least one gun in the house. There are more than 22 million children living in homes with guns.

Most of the victims of unintentional shootings are boys. They are usually shot by a friend or relative, especially a brother.

Half of all unintentional shooting deaths among children occur at home, and almost half occur in the home of a friend or relative.

http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/cirp-gun-safety

kirklancaster · 06-10-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you know the hoops we have to go through in the UK to own a shotgun?

There one is lying around a bloody caravan with kids playing outside?

what kind of 3rd world country?

Jerry Springer type Trailer Trash - Probably LT.

arista · 06-10-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you know the hoops we have to go through in the UK to own a shotgun?

There one is lying around a bloody caravan with kids playing outside?

what kind of 3rd world country?

Yes its Sloppy

Ammi · 07-10-2015, 05:44 AM

..I read that he may be charged as an adult for first degree murder...I don't get the 'self defence' bit in owning a gun for intruders either because if a child can access it, then so could an intruder and use it to harm those living there...

kirklancaster · 07-10-2015, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..I read that he may be charged as an adult for first degree murder...I don't get the 'self defence' bit in owning a gun for intruders either because if a child can access it, then so could an intruder and use it to harm those living there...

What a really brilliant point Ammi - Yes, if the gun was so easily accessible for a child, then intruders COULD have accessed it also, and 'intent' is the only difference in a gun being 'defensive' or 'offensive'.

Niamh. · 06-10-2015, 05:47 PM

That's horrifying. How many more of these incidents need to happen before the US sort their gun laws out? Course it'll never happen because of the money involved. Sad world we live in

DemolitionRed · 06-10-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's horrifying. How many more of these incidents need to happen before the US sort their gun laws out? Course it'll never happen because of the money involved. Sad world we live in

Gun laws are changing in America at the moment and this is probably one of the reasons we are starting to see stories like this one.

Niamh. · 07-10-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Gun laws are changing in America at the moment and this is probably one of the reasons we are starting to see stories like this one.

Are they? What changes have they made?

I saw this on FB just now

Spoiler:

arista · 06-10-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's horrifying. How many more of these incidents need to happen before the US sort their gun laws out? Course it'll never happen because of the money involved. Sad world we live in

No in America
everyone has a Right to Bare Arms
you like me ,have been there

JoshBB · 07-10-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

No in America
everyone has a Right to Bare Arms
you like me ,have been there

Owning a weapon (designed to kill) is not a 'right'.

Niamh. · 07-10-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

Owning a weapon (designed to kill) is not a 'right'.

Well, it is in the USA, it's in their constitution. Should it be their right? That's an entirely different question

Cal. · 06-10-2015, 05:47 PM

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AnnieK · 06-10-2015, 07:03 PM

When I worked in the States, I was horrified at first when I got in a car and there was a gun on the dash board (where I was it was illegal to carry a concealed weapon in a vehicle but legal if in view) but after a while even I got a little desensitised to the amount of people who have and carry guns. It is their way of life and allowed in law.

However, I could never imagine having a loaded gun anywhere near children. Too many wasted lives.

Such a sad story, RIP to the little girl.

arista · 06-10-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

When I worked in the States, I was horrified at first when I got in a car and there was a gun on the dash board (where I was it was illegal to carry a concealed weapon in a vehicle but legal if in view) but after a while even I got a little desensitised to the amount of people who have and carry guns. It is their way of life and allowed in law.

However, I could never imagine having a loaded gun anywhere near children. Too many wasted lives.

Such a sad story, RIP to the little girl.

That shotgun was not near Children
its just that 11 year old boy new his dad
kept his Shotgun ready to defend them.
And he was so Angry a that Girl next door
refusing him to see and touch her puppy.

The Dad should have had it in a Solid Locked Box,
thats the only thing taken away from this tragedy

Ashley. · 07-10-2015, 07:08 AM

How many more innocent people will die before the gun laws are changed? It's getting ridiculous. That boy should go down for life and so should his parents just for being twats

Niamh. · 07-10-2015, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

How many more innocent people will die before the gun laws are changed? It's getting ridiculous. That boy should go down for life and so should his parents just for being twats

At 11 years old though? Does a an 11 year old really have a proper understanding of the consequences of their actions? I'm not sure. My own son is 11 so i guess straight away I can put myself in the shoes of his parents (well not the fact that they had a gun lying around just being his parents I mean)

To me the parents are more at fault than the child

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