[jaxie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39293513

[ebandit]

............let ms fishychops squeal........................

Mark L

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by ebandit

............let ms fishychops squeal........................

Mark L

gotta remember it's not ALL about her.......................

time to recognise that her fellow scots voted to remain

Mark L

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by ebandit

gotta remember it's not ALL about her.......................

time to recognise that her fellow scots voted to remain

Mark L

Are you talking to yourself?

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Are you talking to yourself?

oops! busted......................it's official i'm an embarrassment............

Mark L

[Greg!]

Just proves we're not a "union of equals" then. The democratically elected government of Scotland (with a far higher vote percentage than the tories) denied a referendum and a choice. What a disgrace. It will backfire on her though, support for independence will increase.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Just proves we're not a "union of equals" then. The democratically elected government of Scotland (with a far higher vote percentage than the tories) denied a referendum and a choice. What a disgrace

Just proves it's not a good time to run two campaigns at once. You have after all already had the referendum and lost the vote.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Just proves we're not a "union of equals" then. The democratically elected government of Scotland (with a far higher vote percentage than the tories) denied a referendum and a choice. What a disgrace. It will backfire on her though, support for independence will increase.

Denied a choice? They made it. Loud and clear.

Sturgeon ignoring her Scottish people and the choice they wanted and calling a new referendum until she gets her own selfish way?

[Greg!]

Could you even begin to imagine what the response would have been if the EU blocked the Brexit referendum.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Could you even begin to imagine what the response would have been if the EU blocked the Brexit referendum.

It's quite funny how it's not seen as the same thing tbh

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's quite funny how it's not seen as the same thing tbh

It's not like she said never, she just said it's not the right time. We were told it wasn't the right time for any votes on Europe for 40 years. I don't see the point really. At least you got a vote on the Lisbon treaty even though it ended as a betrayal.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's not like she said never, she just said it's not the right time. We were told it wasn't the right time for any votes on Europe for 40 years. I don't see the point really. At least you got a vote on the Lisbon treaty even though it ended as a betrayal.

Telling the Scots what they can and can't do......like what you all were pissed at the EU for doing.....same thing

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Telling the Scots what they can and can't do......like what you all were pissed at the EU for doing.....same thing

Saying not now, isn't the same as saying no you can't. The Scots told us it was once in a generation, not once every two years.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Telling the Scots what they can and can't do......like what you all were pissed at the EU for doing.....same thing

Tbf though as long as theres a government theres always going to be someone telling the people what to do whether that country is independent or not, SNP were told that the last referendum was a once in a generation vote, Scotland knew this and voted to stay in the union, Nicola and the rest of the SNP should be respecting that vote but they never will because independence has been the sole point of the party since the beginning, the divide in this country has only just began to heal since the last ref and now it's started again. IMO the PM is right, this isn't the time, not until we all find out whats going on and going to happen after bexit.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's quite funny how it's not seen as the same thing tbh

Well it's not tbh

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well it's not tbh

No its not. The level of control that the EU has / had over the day to day running of the UK is MASSIVELY exaggerated by Brexit supporters who would have you believe that the country was effectively being run from Brussels... Which is ridiculous.

Whereas the day to day running of Scotland IS controlled and restricted to a large extent by London.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No its not. The level of control that the EU has / had over the day to day running of the UK is MASSIVELY exaggerated by Brexit supporters who would have you believe that the country was effectively being run from Brussels... Which is ridiculous.

Whereas the day to day running of Scotland IS controlled and restricted to a large extent by London.

That is all absolutely incorrect and a contradiction too
If you count all EU regulations, EU-related Acts of Parliament, and EU-related Statutory Instruments, about 62% of laws introduced between 1993 and 2014 that apply in the UK implemented EU obligations

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Could you even begin to imagine what the response would have been if the EU blocked the Brexit referendum.

The EU blocked the result of Ireland's referendum on the Lisbon treaty. Already happened.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The EU blocked the result of Ireland's referendum on the Lisbon treaty. Already happened.

They didn't block the result, they asked us to vote again and we voted yes the second time (I didn't but ya know)

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They didn't block the result, they asked us to vote again and we voted yes the second time (I didn't but ya know)

At least you got a vote, we waited 40 years.

[arista]

They can have it
Once we are out of the Corrupt EU
in 2019.

OK Greg.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by arista

They can have it
Once we are out of the Corrupt EU
in 2019.

OK Greg.

Seems sensible tbh.2 years.Get all the Brexit stuff out of the way.One thing at once.
Even if the PM said do it whenever it probably would'nt happen until the back end of 2018 anyway.These things take time.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

They can have it
Once we are out of the Corrupt EU
in 2019.

OK Greg.

agreed
the scots voted to remain in the uk , knowing full well a EU referendum was coming the next year or 2 as promised
That means we still have a UK government who have the right to put off a scottish referendum during their time in governance
Another referendum now in the middle of brexit article 50 would be frankly insane and it shows exactly how horrific sturgeon and the SNP are. They dont really give a damn about the UK or the british people , they simply want to succeed on their one and only policy to break up the UK and pick up their euro cheques

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by the truth

agreed
the scots voted to remain in the uk , knowing full well a EU referendum was coming the next year or 2 as promised
That means we still have a UK government who have the right to put off a scottish referendum during their time in governance
Another referendum now in the middle of brexit article 50 would be frankly insane and it shows exactly how horrific sturgeon and the SNP are. They dont really give a damn about the UK or the british people , they simply want to succeed on their one and only policy to break up the UK and pick up their euro cheques

[RichardG]

if i was scottish i would want to know all of the facts as to what being out of the eu will mean before having another vote on independence.