[Niamh.]

Thoughts? Good or bad idea? I think it's great, I think most people would be happy to be donors just couldn't be bothered going to the trouble of registering as a donor. If you feel strongly against donating you can always opt out

https://buzz.ie/new-law-will-assume-...-organ-donors/
A new Irish organ donor law has been proposed that will presume everyone is an organ donor in the event of their death.

The “opt out” system is designed to increase organ donation.

Minister for Health will take the plan to Cabinet and if passed it’s hoped the law could be in place before the end of the year.

According to the Irish Times, the Human Tissue Bill will put a system of “presumed consent” in place to replace the current law which requires organ donors to opt-in if they wish to make their organs available for transplantation following their death.

[Denver]

What if they are a Jehovah's witness?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What if they are a Jehovah's witness?

Then I assume they would opt out?

[Denver]

What if they didnt do it in time

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What if they didnt do it in time

That would be tough luck

[Northern Monkey]

Bad idea in Ireland

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Bad idea in Ireland

Why?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why?

All those Guiness pickled livers

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

All those Guiness pickled livers

But I was looking at a survey done last year asking Do you plan on Donating your organs and 80% answered yes and only 8% said no (the rest said I don't know) So it's seems logical to have an opt out system in place

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But I was looking at a survey done last year asking Do you plan on Donating your organs and 80% answered yes and only 8% said no (the rest said I don't know) So it's seems logical to have an opt out system in place

Well it's definitely a good idea in practical terms.
I suppose the other side of it could be that it's a little bit Orwellian.It kind of presumes that the state owns you,That you are government property.
Should you have to put it in your will that you don't want body parts stolen after death in a free society?
I can see both sides.

[UserSince2005]

Id donate my organs to a private hospital, but not an nhs hospital, god knows what they do with them, ive heard some horror stories.

[Tom4784]

It's a great idea and I think it should be the norm world wide. Waiting lists would evaporate if there's thousands of organs made available every day.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a great idea and I think it should be the norm world wide. Waiting lists would evaporate if there's thousands of organs made available every day.

This for me certainly.

[Denver]

What about the young?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What about the young?

The answer will be the same to all you questions Presumably it would be up to their parents to opt them out if they're under age

[Denver]

I dont think people want to bury their child all slice open and empty

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I dont think people want to bury their child all slice open and empty

They could opt them out then? But I'm sure if a child dies unexpectedly, the parents would be able to opt them out after they'd died as they are legal guardians and the Doctors aren't going to run off with their body before they can stop them :/

ETA : Alot of parents would feel like some part of their child lives on if their organs were used to save another childs life, your description of how the body was buried is pretty crass and unnecessary tbh

[Tom4784]

I think a lot of parents wouldn't opt out, I've got a dour view on humanity but I think most parents would be empathetic enough in that situation to understand that donating the organs would save other children from dying and their parents from going through what they are going through.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think a lot of parents wouldn't opt out, I've got a dour view on humanity but I think most parents would be empathetic enough in that situation to understand that donating the organs would save other children from dying and their parents from going through what they are going through.

Yes absolutely, that's how I would feel about it. It also makes your child into a bit of a hero too after they passed

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes absolutely, that's how I would feel about it. It also makes your child into a bit of a hero too after they passed

I imagine it might be a miniscule comfort to know that their death had meaning too, that it wasn't in vain.

[ebandit]

...is such a bill likely to be passed

...i see too many objectors now.............and later

...i agree in practice it's a good idea but choice should lie with an individual and not

be assumed

Mark L

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ebandit

...is such a bill likely to be passed

...i see too many objectors now.............and later

...i agree in practice it's a good idea but choice should lie with an individual and not

be assumed

Mark L

It is in Ireland yeah

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It is in Ireland yeah

In England people would probably complain about people "scrounging" organs and that if they had worked harder they would be able to pay for their own organs.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In England people would probably complain about people "scrounging" organs and that if they had worked harder they would be able to pay for their own organs.

I really don't see the logic behind not wanting to donate and help save peoples lives

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I really don't see the logic behind not wanting to donate and help save peoples lives

Well it is usually religious reasons, so logic has already left the building...