[parmnion]

Like genuine was trying to say?

[Cherie]

Don't think so

[Niamh.]

I don't think she's racist but she's definitely sexist

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think she's racist but she's definitely sexist

I don't think she means to be sexist, just has old fashioned views on male and female roles

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think she means to be sexist, just has old fashioned views on male and female roles

Doesn't make her any less sexist though
I mean imagine changing that in the context of race : I don't think she means to be racist, she just has old fashioned views on black and white people's roles

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Doesn't make her any less sexist though
I mean imagine changing that in the context of race : I don't think she means to be racist, she just has old fashioned views on black and white people's roles

She was in parliament do it's hard to believe she has radically sexist views either as she would have been in a minority and I would imagine she stuck up for herself

As for the racism jibe, she cited Rosa Parkes as a woman to be admired, is the the view of a racist

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She was in parliament do it's hard to believe she has radically sexist views either as she would have been in a minority and I would imagine she stuck up for herself

As for the racism jibe, she cited Rosa Parkes as a woman to be admired, is the the view of a racist

Exactly,and Wilberforce for the abolishment of slavery,so no she isn't racist.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She was in parliament do it's hard to believe she has radically sexist views either as she would have been in a minority and I would imagine she stuck up for herself

As for the racism jibe, she cited Rosa Parkes as a woman to be admired, is the the view of a racist

I never said she was racist though, I said imagine if you used that defense of her being sexist as a defense of being racist, that wouldn't be ok so why is this?

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think she means to be sexist, just has old fashioned views on male and female roles

old fashioned views on male and female roles are sexist so yes she's sexist lmao

[montblanc]

she hasn't shown any signs that i could see of being racist but i wouldn't be surprised if she was

[Livia]

Originally Posted by montblanc

she hasn't shown any signs that i could see of being racist but i wouldn't be surprised if she was

Because everyone over 70 is a probably a racist.

Ageist again.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by montblanc

old fashioned views on male and female roles are sexist so yes she's sexist lmao

Ageism is also a thing. Just saying.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by montblanc

old fashioned views on male and female roles are sexist so yes she's sexist lmao

It's funny some people expect everyone to tolerate their views these days but have no tolerance for others

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's funny some people expect everyone to tolerate their views these days but have no tolerance for others

i literally just stated that old fashioned views are sexist (which they are) but never did i ONCE imply that i don't have tolerance for people like Ann because lets face, i have to because they're everywhere.

[Stevep]

Tbh, he can't claim she is racist on the basis of her disapproving when they cuddle, because she also apparently sighs when Jess cuddles with Maggie.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Like genuine was trying to say?

Not at all .

[GreenIce]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Like genuine was trying to say?

That's right Ginuwine, play the race card, it usually works in shutting up white people you don't like and makes others dislike them. On yer bike, Granddad, and take your American BS with you.

[odd sock]

Originally Posted by GreenIce

That's right Ginuwine, play the race card, it usually works in shutting up white people you don't like and makes others dislike them. On yer bike, Granddad, and take your American BS with you.

[joeysteele]

No,she's not racist in my view.

[Ellen]

I think there are a few names you could call Ann but racist is not one of them. If they cant get her one way try another way eh?

[-Sue-]

I don't think Ann is racist

[rionablue]

Not in the least just very very old fashioned in her ways and views. Alot of her generation are more forward thinking in their views on gay marriage etc but she isnt going to change now

[bitontheslide]

i don't think Ann is racist or sexist. She doesnt agree with some of the over compensation and positive discrimination, but she is fully behind womens equality

[bitontheslide]

Ann's views are dated and I probably would disagree with 95% of what she believes in, but she is a little 70 year old lady for goodness sake. How many youngsters normally give a toss what someone 2 or 3 generations older thinks. How can they be so shallow and spineless either to challenge her views directly or better still just completely ignore them. Thats what's laughable to me, that they are getting so worked up about her

[Amy Jade]

Racist no. Sexist, to a degree yes but I don't think she's malicious with it just quite old fashioned.

Nobody can deny she was very against the men taking care of her but is more than happy to see Rachel wait hand and foot on her and allows an 82 year old to bring food to her bed.

What I am unsure of is if she is like this because she believes those are womens roles or if she is doesn't want men thinking she needs them.