[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/0...all-for-a-ban/

activists in Netherlands call for a ban on this

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placed the pictures in spoilers, for those who might find it too shocking or get too emotional from these horrible places the animals live in

Wakker Dier defines a mega factory farm as one in which large numbers of animals live in one or more barns – in total at least 7,500 pigs, 120,000 laying hens, 220,000 broiler chickens, 2,500 veal calves or 1,500 goats.

the statistics of the numbers how many animals live in one or more barns

[arista]

Your Food Bill will go up without them
its a Food Factory

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Your Food Bill will go up without them
its a Food Factory

yes, but you also have animal friendly farms, where they live a good life, a lot outside too


cause with these giant factory farms they don't let them outside

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes, but you also have animal friendly farms, where they live a good life, a lot outside too


cause with these giant factory farms they don't let them outside

They were born for us to Eat
its that simple

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I believe in you, Niamh.

Thank you :')

Originally Posted by arista

They were born for us to Eat
its that simple

gross

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

gross

Its been like that for years
gross to you , fair enough.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

They were born for us to Eat
its that simple

That doesn't mean we don't have a responsibility to make sure they have a decent standard of welfare.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

That doesn't mean we don't have a responsibility to make sure they have a decent standard of welfare.

Yes Welfare and Law.


KFC needs Chicken

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

They were born for us to Eat
its that simple

Maybe so,(but they do make nice pets)but to treat them so badly while we have them is inhumane and barbaric, those chickens in those crowded cages would probably wish if they could,they were never born, and the way they are killed doesn't bare thinking about.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe so,(but they do make nice pets)but to treat them so badly while we have them is inhumane and barbaric, those chickens in those crowded cages would probably wish if they could,they were never born, and the way they are killed doesn't bare thinking about.

Yes we see that fun on a farm.

But this Factory Farm belongs to a Big Company
you have no say in it.

Its been that way for YEARS

[Niamh.]

It's disgusting how we treat animals

[bots]

[Livia]

I don't know what it's going to take to make people realise there are too many people. Maybe David Attenborough, showing us some pictures of million of people dying of hunger, and then pleading with people to have no more than two children.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't know what it's going to take to make people realise there are too many people. Maybe David Attenborough, showing us some pictures of million of people dying of hunger, and then pleading with people to have no more than two children.

Speaking of David Attenborough, he did make a comment on that before, not sure if you saw that video but his opinion was countries where women had control over their own reproductive systems, populations where decreasing and massiverly the opposite where they didn't.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Speaking of David Attenborough, he did make a comment on that before, not sure if you saw that video but his opinion was countries where women had control over their own reproductive systems, populations where decreasing and massiverly the opposite where they didn't.

Oooo no, I didn't see that. He got that information from reading my posts I reckon.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oooo no, I didn't see that. He got that information from reading my posts I reckon.

haha, I'll try to find that video later and post it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Speaking of David Attenborough, he did make a comment on that before, not sure if you saw that video but his opinion was countries where women had control over their own reproductive systems, populations where decreasing and massiverly the opposite where they didn't.

yes i saw that one

[bots]

Atty has a brand new series out on netflix in ultra hd - its stunning ... all about the environment

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Atty has a brand new series out on netflix in ultra hd - its stunning ... all about the environment

They should make him president of the world.

[smudgie]

My opinion is that it is disgusting.
Churning out cheaper food by treating animals so badly is just wrong.

[Liam-]

I don’t buy anything that isn’t free range, the thought of those factories makes my stomach churn

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t buy anything that isn’t free range, the thought of those factories makes my stomach churn

A friend of mine was dealing with a "free range" farmer through work one time and he told her that free range guidelines are pretty misleading. people imagine chickens running free on farms all day, when in fact to qualify (and charge much more for the eggs and meat) as free range, they only have to have the chickens outside for a small percentage of time everyday so alot of times free range isn't much better. i was really disappointed to learn that. (This was in Ireland, not sure if it's the same rules in Britain or not)

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A friend of mine was dealing with a "free range" farmer through work one time and he told her that free range guidelines are pretty misleading. people imagine chickens running free on farms all day, when in fact to qualify (and charge much more for the eggs and meat) as free range, they only have to have the chickens outside for a small percentage of time everyday so alot of times free range isn't much better. i was really disappointed to learn that. (This was in Ireland, not sure if it's the same rules in Britain or not)

Erm, thats news to me

I also only buy free range, because I kind of thought they were..well free range!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm, thats news to me

I also only buy free range, because I kind of thought they were..well free range!

I know, me too, she literally only told me that a couple of weeks back. I mean it's still better than not free range but doesn't sound like it's that much better or as good as i thought

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A friend of mine was dealing with a "free range" farmer through work one time and he told her that free range guidelines are pretty misleading. people imagine chickens running free on farms all day, when in fact to qualify (and charge much more for the eggs and meat) as free range, they only have to have the chickens outside for a small percentage of time everyday so alot of times free range isn't much better. i was really disappointed to learn that. (This was in Ireland, not sure if it's the same rules in Britain or not)

yes this is true, here when they label certain foods as organical (vegetables without pesticides on them against lice and other contaminating bugs) and charge a lot more for it, while quality from normal vegetables or organical isn't much difference from the grocery store

i already have fruits from my own garden, and now also since recent years more vegetables than before, it is also quite good quality and cheaper when you grow it yourself in your garden

strawberries for example, in the store they are soooo dense and lacking flavour, while homegrown they are great texture and lots, lots of flavour