[Smithy]

Please watch it before you comment.

But I honestly just find it gobsmacking that people can watch this, see the state we’re in and think everything is ok, or that enough has been done

[Liam-]

‘But NZ is so much smaller than us, god stop the stupid comparisons!!’

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

‘But NZ is so much smaller than us, god stop the stupid comparisons!!’

Less population.

[The Slim Reaper]

People aren't interested. I posted this last night, and folks automatically assume it's more about comparing countries than leadership.

[MTVN]

I mean it is fair to point out that containing the virus in NZ is a million times more manageable than the UK. Be interested to see the dates on all the footage as well - NZ did not have any cases till March whereas we now know that it was in Europe already in December. Careful editing by Momentum as well as usual - cuts off the PM in the This Morning interview just before he says that letting it 'move through the population' was only one theory and he thought we should take a different approach

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I mean it is fair to point out that containing the virus in NZ is a million times more manageable than the UK. Be interested to see the dates on all the footage as well - NZ did not have any cases till March whereas we now know that it was in Europe already in December. Careful editing by Momentum as well as usual - cuts off the PM in the This Morning interview just before he says that letting it 'move through the population' was only one theory and he thought we should take a different approach

At the same time his government were pursuing that exact policy though.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

People aren't interested. I posted this last night, and folks automatically assume it's more about comparing countries than leadership.

The UK leadership (Westminster in general) being a ****ing bouncy castle of clowns just isn't news, though. Did we really need Covid for people to say "omg our leadership is a mess"? It not specific to this situation, or even this government, in the slightest... I personally can't stand it when people feign "omg shocking" when a light is shone on it in a new situation. It isn't "shocking"... it isn't "news"... it's standard UK politics in the 21st century.

There's plenty of scope for discussing that but trying to directly link it to the Covid situation or the stats/numbers is a tenuous hypothesis and an unhelpful discussion.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The UK leadership (Westminster in general) being a ****ing bouncy castle of clowns just isn't news, though. Did we really need Covid for people to say "omg our leadership is a mess"? It not specific to this situation, or even this government, in the slightest... I personally can't stand it when people feign "omg shocking" when a light is shone on it in a new situation. It isn't "shocking"... it isn't "news"... it's standard UK politics in the 21st century.

There's plenty of scope for discussing that but trying to directly link it to the Covid situation or the stats/numbers is a tenuous hypothesis and an unhelpful discussion.

That's a lot of words about government when I specifically said it was about leadership, but you enjoy yourself.

[Niamh.]

She is an amazing leader tbf

[Oliver_W]

She's definitely showing better leadership. But it really is easier to handle a crisis like this when an entire country has about half the population of London, they're controlling their borders, and citizens returning there are required to isolate.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

She's definitely showing better leadership. But it really is easier to handle a crisis like this when an entire country has about half the population of London, they're controlling their borders, and citizens returning there are required to isolate.

Which is exactly what we should have done

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Which is exactly what we should have done

People were asked to self isolate if they had symptoms they didn't do it, remember the woman who returned from China and took an Uber to A and E with her symptoms

and there were loads who came back from Italy after half term who didn't either, they were on phone in's saying they had mild symptoms so were going to work anyway

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

People were asked to self isolate if they had symptoms they didn't do it, remember the woman who returned from China and took an Uber to A and E with her symptoms

and there were loads who came back from Italy after half term who didn't either, they were on phone in's saying they had mild symptoms so were going to work anyway

That wasn’t as well known though, it should have been as transparent as his original broadcast telling everyone to stay at home

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Smithy

That wasn’t as well known though, it should have been as transparent as his original broadcast telling everyone to stay at home

You kidding me, yes it was if people paid attention!

They were bringing people back from China and isolating them, Zizu was on here every day talking about it

Maybe he should have addressed the people like he did with lockdown but it was well reported in media, when you got back from aboard, we came back from Spain on 20th Feb there were signs up everywhere about self isolating if you had symptoms, people took no notice

[DouglasS]

Very highly edited video portraying a narrative.

It’s indefinitely eaisier to control a virus with a country on an island with a far smaller population. The thing about exponential growth is that if the population is far smaller And isolated, the problem is almost exponentially eaisier to deal with. Not to say New Zealand haven’t done a tremendous job as they clearly have, but it’s not possible to even compare the U.K. or US to that situation as it’s just entirely different. Outside of London weve done relatively well, which is almost like comparing that to New Zealand

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Very highly edited video portraying a narrative.

It’s indefinitely eaisier to control a virus with a country on an island with a far smaller population. The thing about exponential growth is that if the population is far smaller And isolated, the problem is almost exponentially eaisier to deal with. Not to say New Zealand haven’t done a tremendous job as they clearly have, but it’s not possible to even compare the U.K. or US to that situation as it’s just entirely different. Outside of London weve done relatively well, which is almost like comparing that to New Zealand

China has a population of over a billion and has contained it better than we have? What’s the argument in this scenario?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Smithy

China has a population of over a billion and has contained it better than we have? What’s the argument in this scenario?

You are believing China now?

You must be the only person in the western world

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Smithy

China has a population of over a billion and has contained it better than we have? What’s the argument in this scenario?

I would say you are very naive if you believe China’s death figures and containment of the virus

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I would say you are very naive if you believe China’s death figures and containment of the virus

+1

[arista]

Yes I watched it Smithy


Very Clever Editing by the Labour crew.
Johnson PM made many errors.

[Samm]

Jacinda has been the most impressive leader throughout the world she’s amazing, along with Merkel

[Liam-]

Boris told us we should just let it move through the population and just ‘take it on the chin’, it was most certainly their ‘strategy’ to let as many people as possible to get infected

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Boris told us we should just let it move through the population and just ‘take it on the chin’, it was most certainly their ‘strategy’ to let as many people as possible to get infected

Yes he did, no one is disputing that at all?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Boris told us we should just let it move through the population and just ‘take it on the chin’, it was most certainly their ‘strategy’ to let as many people as possible to get infected

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes he did, no one is disputing that at all?

I dispute that tbf:

Claim
Prime Minister Boris Johnson advocated for the UK to take Covid-19 “on the chin” and allow the disease to spread through the population.

Conclusion
The Prime Minister said this was a theory on how to deal with the virus, but said it would be better if we take all the measures we can to reduce the burden on the NHS during the peak of the disease.

https://fullfact.org/health/boris-jo...-this-morning/

[Brother Leon]

Still can’t believe he had the cheek to really say “Our apparent success”
The delusion is unreal.