[arista]

His mother was behind him
if only she grabbed the knife from her son?


NBC Oct. 27, 2020, 11:16 AM GMT / Updated Oct. 27, 2020, 9:42 PM GMT
By Rachel Elbaum, Kurt Chirbas, Colin Sheeley and Julie Goldstein

[Police in Philadelphia shot and killed a Black man
on Monday, triggering protests that saw at
least 30 officers injured, officials said.
Police said they shot Walter Wallace Jr., 27, after
responding to a call about a man armed with a knife.
The responding officers ordered Wallace
“several times” to drop the knife and he
continued to “advance towards” them,
according to a statement.
They then fired their weapons “multiple times,”
shooting him in the chest and shoulder,
and he was pronounced dead at
the hospital just after 4 p.m., the statement added.

Wallace was recently married,
and had seven children and one on the way,
according to a statement from
his cousin Carnell Hurley made on
behalf of his family.
He was shot in front of his mother and brother, Hurley said.

Hurley said in the statement that Wallace
was “at least 20 feet away” from
the officers and they “shot a dozen shots.”]


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...tests-n1244888

[caprimint]

I mean it was either the police get killed or him

[Ammi]

...I don’t understand why it so often seems to be shoot to kill...Surely tasers could have been used or a shot to disable him so an arrest could have been possible...

[Cherie]

Or shoot him in the leg

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t understand why it so often seems to be shoot to kill...Surely tasers could have been used or a shot to disable him so an arrest could have been possible...

Not all forces have Tasers

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Not all forces have Tasers

...what about shooting to disable and prevent, rather than kill, then...(...assuming there’s was no tasers available for this force...)...loss of life should always be a last resort, rather than a first reaction, which is sadly too often seen to happen...

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...what about shooting to disable and prevent, rather than kill, then...(...assuming there’s was no tasers available for this force...)...loss of life should always be a last resort, rather than a first reaction, which is sadly too often seen to happen...

you never shoot to disable Ammi, its next to impossible and requires extreme skill, not something most cops will be trained for. If they shoot, they intend to kill

[parmnion]

Live by the sword, you die by the sword I'm afraid.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Why shooting to wound doesn’t make sense scientifically, legally, or tactically

When I encounter civilian response to officer-involved shootings, it’s very
often ‘Why didn’t they just shoot him in the leg?’” Dr. Bill Lewinski, executive
director of the Force Science Institute, told Force Science News in a 2006
interview centered on Paterson’s proposed legislation. “When civilians judge
police shooting deaths–on juries, on review boards, in the media, in the
community–this same argument is often brought forward. Shooting to wound
is naively regarded as a reasonable means of stopping dangerous behavior.


“In reality, this thinking is a result of ‘training by Hollywood,’ in which movie
and TV cops are able to do anything to control the outcomes of events that
serve the director’s dramatic interests. It reflects a misconception of real-life
dynamics and ends up imposing unrealistic expectations of skill on real-life officers.”

“Hands and arms can be the fastest-moving body parts. For example, an average suspect can move his hand and forearm across his body to a 90-degree angle in 12/100 of a second. He can move his hand from his hip to shoulder height in 18/100 of a second.

“The average officer pulling the trigger as fast as he can on a Glock, one of the fastest- cycling semi-autos, requires 1/4 second to discharge each round.

“There is no way an officer can react, track, shoot and reliably hit a threatening suspect’s forearm or a weapon in a suspect’s hand in the time spans involved.

“Even if the suspect held his weapon arm steady for half a second or more, an accurate hit would be highly unlikely, and in police shootings the suspect and his weapon are seldom stationary. Plus, the officer himself may be moving as he shoots.


more details here: https://www.police1.com/patrol-issue...dYvNUEECtIWRI/

[LeatherTrumpet]

this is also why forming certain opinions and organisations by sketchy videos by civilians is also a very bad idea...

[Nicky91]

it was self-defence by the police, case closed

[Ammi]

...the mayor has just asked for the case to be opened, Inspector Nicky.....I’m sure that they’ll look at it a bit before they close it...I hope that’ll happen anyway...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the mayor has just asked for the case to be opened, Inspector Nicky.....I’m sure that they’ll look at it a bit before they close it...I hope that’ll happen anyway...

why because of some loser protesters now


he is not supposed to have a knife on him out on the streets, he could've stabbed multiple people to death, he was a threat and he was taken down

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

it was self-defence by the police, case closed

You’re not serious.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Redway

You’re not serious.

no because sadly it isn't just that simple

also if they shot him in the leg or something, he could've still crawled forward and injured you for example in the leg or foot

this man disobeyed multiple warnings to stand down, but he kept approaching the officer with that knife

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no because sadly it isn't just that simple

also if they shot him in the leg or something, he could've still crawled forward and injured you for example in the leg or foot

this man disobeyed multiple warnings to stand down, but he kept approaching the officer with that knife

Is this how you picture a dude shot in the leg?

[Oliver_W]

Jeez, so riots even kick off when the person shot was attacking the police with a knife?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Jeez, so riots even kick off when the person shot was attacking the police with a knife?

It tells you all you need to know about the true motivation...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It tells you all you need to know about the true motivation...

yep, everything to seek attention for likes and because those people are just feeling bored otherwise

[Liam-]

No deescelation, no attempts to disarm him, another tick in the trigger happy cops box

[LeatherTrumpet]

No one is shooting to kill they are shooting to stop a threat

One bullet in the leg can kill

5 to the torso may not

it depends on so many factor beyond anyone's control


They stopped the imminent threat to lives and well done to the brave officers who do this for their job

every day they clock in they could be killed

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one is shooting to kill they are shooting to stop a threat

One bullet in the leg can kill

5 to the torso may not

it depends on so many factor beyond anyone's control




They stopped the imminent threat to lives and well done to the brave officers who do this for their job

every day they clock in they could be killed

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one is shooting to kill they are shooting to stop a threat

One bullet in the leg can kill

5 to the torso may not

it depends on so many factor beyond anyone's control


They stopped the imminent threat to lives and well done to the brave officers who do this for their job

every day they clock in they could be killed

Yes because the best way to stop a threat is to shoot them in the heart instead of using a brain to disarm

[Denver]

Given police guns gives them the right to murder without repercussions

[LeatherTrumpet]

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