[Crimson Dynamo]

Bill Burr has been receiving backlash following his appearance at the 2021
Grammy Awards. Here’s a look at why he was cancelled and the drama that
unfolded.

1. The comedian presented Best Regional Mexican Music at Sunday's Grammys
2. He struggled to pronounce the name of the winner Natalia Lafourcade
3. Burr joked feminists would hate a 'cis-white male doing all this Latino stuff'
4. The stand-up also commented he wanted to 'kill himself' after a piano solo

2021 Grammy Awards has been in the center of controversy weeks before the
show aired. Amid this, Bill has been receiving a lot of heat after his appearance
during the award show. Fans have been calling out the comedian for saying
some problematic statements. Here’s a look at what he said.

WHY IS BILL BURR CANCELLED?

Bill was chosen as the presenter for various categories in the award show. He
decided to joke about the lockdown and went on to present the Best
Regional Mexican Music Award.

Singer Natalia Lafourcad had won in this category, but Bill found it hard to
pronounce her last name. “I can’t say this name. And the Grammy goes to
Natalia Lafourcade. I will accept on behalf of her. If I butchered her name,
I’m sorry. Natalia, you won. That’s it,” he said.

The comedian went on to call for trouble once again while presenting the
Best Tropical Latin Album category. Before announcing the winner he joked,
“The feminists are going nuts, ‘Why is this cis-white male doing all this
Latino stuff.'”

Youtube video

some more hate in spoiler:

Spoiler:

Bill has a black wife

[arista]

[Burr joked feminists would hate a 'cis-white male doing all this Latino stuff']


Thats his Style

[DouglasS]

The woke squad’s fingers are bleeding it seems, are they not bored of attacking people for the 80 genders. Next they’re gonna start assigning their pets one of these genders

[Niamh.]

Why would feminists be his first thoughts about who would be outraged at something that could be considered more a race thing than a woman thing?

[user104658]

Well I'm in a bizarre halfway situation here where I would happily see Bill Burr fired into the sun but at the same time - and god ****ing damn this for being true - I agreed with more than half of that YouTube video . He's really difficult to listen to, don't get me wrong, and I question his motives but much of the actual content I just can't argue against.

But then I find myself in this political no-man's land an awful lot these days. I'm not a white gammon conservative, but I'm sure as **** not a current-wave progressive either.



Politically homeless and surrounded by extremists and dogma. I assume a lot of people find themselves here, and it suxxx.

[Niamh.]

Yeah loads of people feel that way at the moment TS, I read it online all the time, I feel the same

[Nicky91]

how unsurprising, comedians getting more criticism these recent times than few decades ago

[Crimson Dynamo]

well he did nothing wrong apart from mispronounce a tricky name and the dance routine in Ben's video is repulsive and unoriginal

and harry styles looked like a total try-hard dick

[Tom4784]

So a Ben Shapiro video and a handful of random tweets constitutes an 'outrage', okay.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So a Ben Shapiro video and a handful of random tweets constitutes an 'outrage', okay.

no you can have Roasted

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b1817095.html

Draws Criticism

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...ceremony-jokes

Twitter backlash


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ists-nuts.html

CANCELLED

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/03/1...ama-explained/

and

Steals The Show

https://metalinjection.net/around-th...cancel-culture

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Twitter backlash


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ists-nuts.html
[B]

7 screenshots in a daily mail article is a twitter "backlash"?

[Jordan.]

would never have even heard about this if the right didn't get themselves in a dizzy over a bunch of teenagers tweets.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

would never have even heard about this if the right didn't get themselves in a dizzy over a bunch of teenagers tweets.

Yup, a manufactured outrage for the purpose of giving right wingers a reason to grumble about the left wing. It's embarassing really, having to invent situations to be mad about but that's what right wing media is all about.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yup, a manufactured outrage for the purpose of giving right wingers a reason to grumble about the left wing. It's embarassing really, having to invent situations to be mad about but that's what right wing media is all about.

gullibility is profitable

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

gullibility is profitable

Incredibly so, gullible people provide clicks and the right wing's penchant for ignoring reality in favour of a more pleasing fiction is a goldmine. Look at the Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross situation from years ago, that was a broadcast that didn't create much of a backlash when it aired, only when the media reported on it in a way that inflamed the situation to what it became, they basically created a whole storyline from it except things are worse now, since you only need one or two tweets to be like 'Crazy leftists are outraged! Look at this tweet saying so from a person with 4 followers and no likes or retweets on the tweet in question!'

The right wing swallow it up, when wiser people would question the validity of the story. As long as it appeals to their confirmation bias though, the right wing doesn't care about the validity of stories, just that they tell them what they want to hear.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Incredibly so, gullible people provide clicks and the right wing's penchant for ignoring reality in favour of a more pleasing fiction is a goldmine. Look at the Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross situation from years ago, that was a broadcast that didn't create much of a backlash when it aired, only when the media reported on it in a way that inflamed the situation to what it became, they basically created a whole storyline from it except things are worse now, since you only need one or two tweets to be like 'Crazy leftists are outraged! Look at this tweet saying so from a person with 4 followers and no likes or retweets on the tweet in question!'

The right wing swallow it up, when wiser people would question the validity of the story. As long as it appeals to their confirmation bias though, the right wing doesn't care about the validity of stories, just that they tell them what they want to hear.

I get what you're saying Dezzy, and I agree with it to a certain extent.

However I do find it shocking that these opinions of hating white people (in this particular case white men) has been made more regularly recently than it would've been even as recent as 5 years ago.

The far right and far left are growing in numbers compared to what they were like in 2016, and in this particular case the far left are feeling very emboldened to keep being racist towards white people and misandrist which as I'm in both categories that the far left seem to really despise, they obviously lose me as a potential ally, as well as many other people.

But yeah the Media love to embellish how evil and insane the left are, even though for now the far left are still a minority thankfully.

[Niamh.]

he hasn't actually been "cancelled" though, has he? I mean he's always been controversial, that's his thing, isn't it? He's been around a while

[Tom4784]

Again, more examples of media taking a few tweets and spinning it into a story and the gullible right wing will eat it up.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Bill Burr has been receiving backlash following his appearance at the 2021
Grammy Awards. Here’s a look at why he was cancelled and the drama that
unfolded.

1. The comedian presented Best Regional Mexican Music at Sunday's Grammys
2. He struggled to pronounce the name of the winner Natalia Lafourcade
3. Burr joked feminists would hate a 'cis-white male doing all this Latino stuff'
4. The stand-up also commented he wanted to 'kill himself' after a piano solo

2021 Grammy Awards has been in the center of controversy weeks before the
show aired. Amid this, Bill has been receiving a lot of heat after his appearance
during the award show. Fans have been calling out the comedian for saying
some problematic statements. Here’s a look at what he said.

WHY IS BILL BURR CANCELLED?

Bill was chosen as the presenter for various categories in the award show. He
decided to joke about the lockdown and went on to present the Best
Regional Mexican Music Award.

Singer Natalia Lafourcad had won in this category, but Bill found it hard to
pronounce her last name. “I can’t say this name. And the Grammy goes to
Natalia Lafourcade. I will accept on behalf of her. If I butchered her name,
I’m sorry. Natalia, you won. That’s it,” he said.

The comedian went on to call for trouble once again while presenting the
Best Tropical Latin Album category. Before announcing the winner he joked,
“The feminists are going nuts, ‘Why is this cis-white male doing all this
Latino stuff.'”

Youtube video

some more hate in spoiler:

Spoiler:

Bill has a black wife

The people making those tweets are clearly irony impaired.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People are laughing at the woke leftists

Bill has done them up like kippers

[Tom4784]

I have no time for false equivalence and centrism relies on it to 'both sides' all issues.

Come talk to me about the 'far left' in the same breath as the far right when left leaning people launch an attack on the Senate, or when a left leaning extremist shoots an Brexiteer to death, or when pro-choice people are doing whatever the equivalent is of conservative pro-life harassing people outside of abortion clinics, so on, and so forth.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have no time for false equivalence and centrism relies on it to 'both sides' all issues.

Come talk to me about the 'far left' in the same breath as the far right when left leaning people launch an attack on the Senate, or when a left leaning extremist shoots an Brexiteer to death, or when pro-choice people are doing whatever the equivalent is of conservative pro-life harassing people outside of abortion clinics, so on, and so forth.

In fairness I have made loads of posts against what the Trump cult did at Capitol Hill, in your defence you've obviously not seen them (as nobody can read every post in fairness) I actually don't know much about the Remainer being shot story I'm afraid, from what you're telling me though it's extremism at it's very worst.

And again I'm not a pro-life person (I understand their motive) but ultimately I can see it less black and white than what the pro-life people see it as.

For me it's just simple, I don't support extremist views, from more silly things like wanting a Comedian to lose his career because he dared to make a joke that they personally didn't like that the far left have been doing lately, to the more violent extremism that we've seen from the far right recently.

If that makes me a Centrist then great, better than being in either of those two camps imo.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

In fairness I have made loads of posts against what the Trump cult did at Capitol Hill, in your defence you've obviously not seen them (as nobody can read every post in fairness) I actually don't know much about the Remainer being shot story I'm afraid, from what you're telling me though it's extremism at it's very worst.

And again I'm not a pro-life person (I understand their motive) but ultimately I can see it less black and white than what the pro-life people see it as.

For me it's just simple, I don't support extremist views, from more silly things like wanting a Comedian to lose his career because he dared to make a joke that they personally didn't like that the far left have been doing lately, to the more violent extremism that we've seen from the far right recently.

If that makes me be a Centrist then great, better than being in either of those two camps imo.

What I'm saying is not so much aimed at you, but at centrism and 'both-sides' arguments in general.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What I'm saying is not so much aimed at you, but at centrism and 'both-sides' arguments in general.

Fair enough Dezzy.

I was worried about being associated with the Tories for a second then, I'd rather be mistaken as a Villa fan before that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What I'm saying is not so much aimed at you, but at centrism and 'both-sides' arguments in general.

I find this over-simplified I suppose; both sides could apply to severity of actions/likely consequences or it could simply refer to specific behaviour or thinking patterns. Do I think "both sides are as bad as each other"? No, absolutely not, the dangers of rampant right-wing ideology can't really be overstated.

However are there absolutely MASSIVE issues with dogma, mantra-parroting and groupthink "on both sides"? It's quite clear that there is but I don't even consider that a "sides" issue. They're not different things, they're exactly the same thing, just attached to different ideologies. It's never a good thing, separate to whether one ideology is objectively more dangerous than the other... The mindset itself, regardless of the focus, is dangerous. There's no such thing as a constructive conversation with a zealot and these days zealots are absolutely everywhere, interwoven into every issue big or small... and without conversation you have nothing.