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Old 06-09-2022, 11:11 AM #1
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Exclamation Teacher who refused to use student's gender-neutral pronouns JAILED Ireland

'I love my school but I am here today because I would not call a boy a girl':
Teacher who refused to use student's gender-neutral pronouns condemns
'insanity' as he is JAILED in Ireland

  • Enoch Burke was arrested yesterday morning for breaching a court order
  • The order barred him from teaching or being present at his Westmeath school
  • The dispute began over his refusal to address a transitioning student as 'they' rather than 'he', as requested by the student and their parents in May
  • He was later suspended, and refused to stay away from the school
  • After the ruling, Mr Burke said: 'I love my school, with its motto Res Non Verba, actions not words, but I am here today because I said I would not call a boy a girl'




Enoch Burke (pictured) refused to address a transitioning student as 'they'
rather than 'he', as requested by the student and their parents in May, and
agreed to by the Church of Ireland school. This escalated to his suspension
on the day before the start of the autumn term, pending the outcome of a
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(wonder what the local plod's burglary success rate is?)

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Misleading title, but OK. Any of us that kept turning up to a school after we were legally informed we shouldn't, would receive exactly the same punishment.
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Pretty sure he was the one that got a court order to stay away from the school he taught at because he was aggressive and refused to stop coming back to the school even after he was told not to come back.

So not jailed for not using specific pronouns at all, jailed for breaching conditions of an injunction against him for violence and harassment, pretty simple really, but anything for the daily heil to push a certain narrative
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Pretty sure he was the one that got a court order to stay away from the school he taught at because he was aggressive and refused to stop coming back to the school even after he was told not to come back.

So not jailed for not using specific pronouns at all, jailed for breaching conditions of an injunction against him for violence and harassment, pretty simple really, but anything for the daily heil to push a certain narrative
I don't see where it says he was violent in that article?

But yes I agree he was arrested for breaching a court order not for the use of the male pronoun. It's not up to the Gardaí to decide which court orders should be upheld and which shouldn't
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I don't see where it says he was violent in that article?

But yes I agree he was arrested for breaching a court order not for the use of the male pronoun. It's not up to the Gardaí to decide which court orders should be upheld and which shouldn't
Here is the Irish Mirror article and of course nothing about being violent

perhaps Liam can provide some evidence for his lavish claims?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/iris...omply-27915032
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Here is the Irish Mirror article and of course nothing about being violent

perhaps Liam can provide some evidence for his lavish claims?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/iris...omply-27915032
That headline seems more accurate too
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That headline seems more accurate too
yes and tells us all we need to know about the parents of this poor child...
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Pretty sure he was the one that got a court order to stay away from the school he taught at because he was aggressive and refused to stop coming back to the school even after he was told not to come back.

So not jailed for not using specific pronouns at all, jailed for breaching conditions of an injunction against him for violence and harassment, pretty simple really, but anything for the daily heil to push a certain narrative
This makes more sense.
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This makes more sense.
No it doesn't, as there's no evidence of harrassment or violence.
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No it doesn't, as there's no evidence of harrassment or violence.
Then why did it escalate to the police? .
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No it doesn't, as there's no evidence of harrassment or violence.
its standard tactic

try and shoehorn in the word violence to hide behind


notice when they did

they also ran away
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No it doesn't, as there's no evidence of harrassment or violence.
So you think that he got jailed for misgendering a child? Because that move I've heard isn't happening until 2031
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So you think that he got jailed for misgendering a child? Because that move I've heard isn't happening until 2031
Ireland is a different country to Britain Mock, we have Self ID over here. But yes he was jailed for breaking the court order that said he was to stay out of the school, seems like he refused to leave. It doesn't say he became violent anywhere in the article though as one poster suggested
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Contempt of court, and violating an order not to go to the school.
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Pretty sure he was the one that got a court order to stay away from the school he taught at because he was aggressive and refused to stop coming back to the school even after he was told not to come back.

So not jailed for not using specific pronouns at all, jailed for breaching conditions of an injunction against him for violence and harassment, pretty simple really, but anything for the daily heil to push a certain narrative

Yes contempt of court .


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Ironically, didn't Graham Linehan get into hot water over his Trans Kids views?
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He screwed his life up. His wife left him for being an obsessed weirdo
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I honestly don't know enough about what he said, or what happened tbh.
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He screwed his life up. His wife left him for being an obsessed weirdo
Standing up for women and children. Time has already started to prove which "side of history" he's on. As a woman, I'm grateful to him for putting everything on the line to speak up for us.
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Standing up for women and children. Time has already started to prove which "side of history" he's on. As a woman, I'm grateful to him for putting everything on the line to speak up for us.
What?

The services offered by Tavistock haven't been shut down, just moved to regional hubs because it wasn't fir for purpose any longer due to increased demand.

Trans people have literally nothing to do with your life as a woman. You've been hoodwinked into believing bigotry is valiant.

Serious question, how would you react if this became a family matter with one of your children coming out as trans?
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