[arista]

The Producer
Douglas Carter Beane
Playwright & Director who made a Film in 1995
and is doing a Comedy Musical now,
told bbc1AM
about how it's a battle in the USA.



No Drags in Florida or Texas
Fair enough, they have they own rules.




Sign Of The Times

[Liam-]

The same bans have already been overturned by the courts in other states as being unconstitutional, they won’t last long

[arista]

It is their right to ban them.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by arista

It is their right to ban them.

Well, they’d like to think so anyway, but it’s very clearly not as it goes against something they claim to unwaveringly support, the first amendment

[Oliver_W]

No drag at all? Because that's going too far.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No drag at all? Because that's going too far.

In Private
no problem.


In Public - those 2 states say No.

They can perform in another state

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by arista

In Private
no problem.


In Public - those 2 states say No.

I'm not expecting you to have all the answers and this is a rhetorical question.. but where is a line drawn, because men like Donald Trump appear to me to wear just as much make up as a drag act, and his hair is certainly a story all of it's own

[fruit_cake]

why are they doing that?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

why are they doing that?

Because they hate gays

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because they hate gays

Purely based on hate alone? is there any sort of end game, or is it just I hate you so I'm going to ban you..because I can vibes

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Purely based on hate alone? is there any sort of end game, or is it just I hate you so I'm going to ban you..because I can vibes

It seems to be an (over)reaction to drag queens being inflicted on kids.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Purely based on hate alone? is there any sort of end game, or is it just I hate you so I'm going to ban you..because I can vibes

The ultimate goal for the republicans of these states trying to take gays rights away, is to eventually get the gay marriage rights overturned, it’s all a ploy to make lgbt people second class citizens again, hidden behind religion and guise of ‘protecting’ people that don’t need to be protected

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ultimate goal for the republicans of these states trying to take gays rights away, is to eventually get the gay marriage rights overturned, it’s all a ploy to make lgbt people second class citizens again, hidden behind religion and guise of ‘protecting’ people that don’t need to be protected

presumably they think being gay is not innate to a persons character, and therefore by watching gay things it will somehow transpose itself into that person then also becoming gay...?

which makes them gay in the first place because sexuality may be fluid to an extent but overtly heteronormative society doesn't appear to make gay people straight.

and after all nothing breeds contempt like familiarity.

[arista]

Douglas Carter Beane
from America was not happy with Florida and Texas.

[Niamh.]

Is there a link for that Arista?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Is there a link for that Arista?

No
That American Director
said it live in BBC1AM


One on Florida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Florida

[Crimson Dynamo]

“to protect children and uphold public decency.”

[user104658]

If blackface can be banned for offensive stereotyping then "womanface" can be banned for the same reasons.

That said - I'm very aware that the actual reasoning behind these bans is far from pro-woman, and that in fact, the essence of most homphobia is rooted in underlying misogyny ("to be gay = a man being woman-like = wrong", in their minds).

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

If blackface can be banned for offensive stereotyping then "womanface" can be banned for the same reasons.

That said - I'm very aware that the actual reasoning behind these bans is far from pro-woman, and that in fact, the essence of most homphobia is rooted in underlying misogyny ("to be gay = a man being woman-like = wrong", in their minds).

Blackface isn’t banned in the U.S. The First Amendment is an inalienable right. Hate speech is also permitted and protected under the First Amendment. States trying to ban freedom of expression usually end up back in the courts and said laws are usually struck down because of the United Stares constitution.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by letmein

Blackface isn’t banned in the U.S. The First Amendment is an inalienable right. Hate speech is also permitted and protected under the First Amendment. States trying to ban freedom of expression usually end up back in the courts and said laws are usually struck down because of the United Stares constitution.

No reasonable person would suggest that someone shows up in blackface to teach children about equality though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No reasonable person would suggest that someone shows up in blackface to teach children about equality though.

If that were to happen it would happen over in the US.

For some reason they see where the UK society has problems, and the Americans are like "hold my Beer."

Thinking about it the US closely followed by the UK I could see this type of scenario happening, both countries can have some weirdo Teachers.

[Crimson Dynamo]

portraying women sex mad prostitutes?



so glad its now banned

[Beso]

You cant ban drag, that's backwards and ridiculous.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

drag is backwards and ridiculous.

yep

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yep

You've been drinking or just bored..

Dont be silly, nowt wrong with a good drag act.

It's been prevelent in comedy for decades.