[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

Video in question is at 1.08

[user104658]

Ben Shapiro goes deep under cover to find out.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Ben Shapiro goes deep under cover to find out.

Is the woman in the video LT's linked in the OP, Ben Shapiro's Sister? Either way she seems more sane than him (at least she's not ranting about Barbie for 40 minutes lol.)

I can even understand where she's coming from on some of her points, however I hate the Right's thing of labeling or insinuating that LGBT people are Paedophiles, with no real hard evidence to suggest it to be the case.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is the woman in the video LT's linked in the OP, Ben Shapiro's Sister? Either way she seems more sane than him (at least she's not ranting about Barbie for 40 minutes lol.)

I can even understand where she's coming from on some of her points, however I hate the Right's thing of labeling or insinuating that LGBT people are Paedophiles, with no real hard evidence to suggest it to be the case.

She's not related to him but lots of people joke that they could be father and daughter, her name is Brett Cooper

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She's not related to him but lots of people joke that they could be father and daughter, her name is Brett Cooper

Thanks for the answer Niamh.

and tbf, they do look alike.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is the woman in the video LT's linked in the OP, Ben Shapiro's Sister? Either way she seems more sane than him (at least she's not ranting about Barbie for 40 minutes lol.)

I can even understand where she's coming from on some of her points, however I hate the Right's thing of labeling or insinuating that LGBT people are Paedophiles, with no real hard evidence to suggest it to be the case.

No she just both looks and sounds a bit like him (and is right-leaning, though not as much as Shapiro) so it's a commonly made joke that she's Shapiro's drag alter-ego.

I agree that less savoury characters on the right have a tendency to imply that LGBT people are more likely to be paedophiles which is (obviously) nonsense. It bears acknowledging that the simple fact is, most paedophiles by number are straight men. That's just the facts.

The major issue though is that - at this point unquestionably - there are attempts made BY paedophiles to abuse/twist laws and rights designed to protect LGBT people to use as a shield for their own actions. THere are multiple examples at this point and really - just using common sense - of course people with ill intent will try to find ways to use any new rule or law to their advantage.

Taking a deeper dive there are also some issues with certain sections of the trans community and autogynephilia/fetishisation of children or child-like qualities. There just... are. The LGBT community itself knows this fine well but (for I suppose obvious reasons) are hesitant to admit it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

No she just both looks and sounds a bit like him (and is right-leaning, though not as much as Shapiro) so it's a commonly made joke that she's Shapiro's drag alter-ego.

I agree that less savoury characters on the right have a tendency to imply that LGBT people are more likely to be paedophiles which is (obviously) nonsense. It bears acknowledging that the simple fact is, most paedophiles by number are straight men. That's just the facts.

The major issue though is that - at this point unquestionably - there are attempts made BY paedophiles to abuse/twist laws and rights designed to protect LGBT people to use as a shield for their own actions. THere are multiple examples at this point and really - just using common sense - of course people with ill intent will try to find ways to use any new rule or law to their advantage.

Taking a deeper dive there are also some issues with certain sections of the trans community and autogynephilia/fetishisation of children or child-like qualities. There just... are. The LGBT community itself knows this fine well but (for I suppose obvious reasons) are hesitant to admit it.

Oh like any other community, Paedophiles will either use or even be apart of the LGBT community, unfortunately.

And tbh I can see why people joke about her looking like Ben Shapiro, it's like looking at his twin Sister (if he has a twin Sister.)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Oh like any other community, Paedophiles will either use or even be apart of the LGBT community, unfortunately.



And tbh I can see why people joke about her looking like Ben Shapiro, it's like looking at his twin Sister (if he has a twin Sister.)

He's almost 20 years older than her so more like his daughter than twin sister

[arista]

Yes it is Tough,
for a lady

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thankfully their shares have tanked badly

[Cherie]

Women and girls are collateral damage, nothing to see here at all

[Oliver_W]

Sorry to leave the reservation but when it comes to individuals, I'm on the side of the one being photographed or filmed without their consent to make a political point. Sorry.

That individual still shouldn't have been in the women's washroom, and their presence is part of a wider problem, but two wrongs...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Sorry to leave the reservation but when it comes to individuals, I'm on the side of the one being photographed or filmed to make a political point. Sorry.

That individual still shouldn't have been in the women's washroom, and their presence is part of a wider problem, but two wrongs...

is the woman political? did she not just take the photo as evidence? people video without consent all the time in a public space, I guess this is a public space for women?

[Crimson Dynamo]

A political point?

FFS what on earth?

[Cherie]

Lathering up and have a shave as well, like I have never seen a woman shave her legs in a gym changing room, this person was there to intimidate, if you really consider yourself a woman, shaving in full view is not conducive to being viewed as one, it is an odd thing to do...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lathering up and have a shave as well, like I have never seen a woman shave her legs in a gym changing room, this person was there to intimidate, if you really consider yourself a woman, shaving in full view is not conducive to being viewed as one, it is an odd thing to do...

It's just needless and I don't really buy that anyone wouldn't know it was needless... so the only realistic conclusion is that they were doing it pointedly/performatively. There's no real reason for anyone to be shaving any part of themselves in a public area... kind of gross actually... if you get a li'l cut in a public changing room it's probably going to immediately become infected.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's just needless and I don't really buy that anyone wouldn't know it was needless... so the only realistic conclusion is that they were doing it pointedly/performatively. There's no real reason for anyone to be shaving any part of themselves in a public area... kind of gross actually... if you get a li'l cut in a public changing room it's probably going to immediately become infected.

I think so

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's just needless and I don't really buy that anyone wouldn't know it was needless... so the only realistic conclusion is that they were doing it pointedly/performatively. There's no real reason for anyone to be shaving any part of themselves in a public area... kind of gross actually... if you get a li'l cut in a public changing room it's probably going to immediately become infected.

not to mention putting your blood on surfaces, surely gyms have a policy to stop idiots shaving?

[Swan]

If that person in the video is a woman what is she doing out of the kitchen anyway?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ideal news for predators

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ideal news for predators

Danielle Alves?

But being serious, I honestly believe that women should be being asked by the Government how they personally feel about Transwomen using their facilities, and whatever the result, that's the course of action to take going forward.

Because after all when it's coming to this topic, I have no personal stake in the issue, and tbh no guy has a stake in this particular topic, because we're not going through it, and obviously the Transwomen will be biased to their own cause, so they're not going to be impartial. And the Government shouldn't force policies onto it's citizens (in this case women) if potentially the majority of women may not want to be apart of said policy.

Ironically the one issue that should be approached with a feminist mindset, isn't being approached that way, it's typical of Humanity to be so ****ed up like that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Danielle Alves?

But being serious, I honestly believe that women should be being asked by the Government how they personally feel about Transwomen using their facilities, and whatever the result, that's the course of action to take going forward.

Because after all when it's coming to this topic, I have no personal stake in the issue, and tbh no guy has a stake in this particular topic, because we're not going through it, and obviously the Transwomen will be biased to their own cause, so they're not going to be impartial. And the Government shouldn't force policies onto it's citizens (in this case women) if potentially the majority of women may not want to be apart of said policy.

Ironically the one issue that should be approached with a feminist mindset, isn't being approached that way, it's typical of Humanity to be so ****ed up like that.

The problem is that absolutely anyone who simply says "I identify as a woman" can enter female spaces where girls and women are in vulnerable positions/a state of undress. It is mind blowing to me that people are pretending like this loophole isn't going to be taken advantage of by predatory men. The whole reason to stop all men from entering is to protect all women from the bad ones. This is what safe guarding is and why sex segregated spaces exist in the first place in these types of places where women are particularly vulnerable and at risk.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The problem is that absolutely anyone who simply says "I identify as a woman" can enter female spaces where girls and women are in vulnerable positions/a state of undress. It is mind blowing to me that people are pretending like this loophole isn't going to be taken advantage of by predatory men. The whole reason to stop all men from entering is to protect all women from the bad ones. This is what safe guarding is and why sex segregated spaces exist in the first place in these types of places where women are particularly vulnerable and at risk.

But I personally think that if (which tbf none of us 100% knows the majority of women's feelings on this topic) but if the majority of women on a referendum, said "no I don't feel comfortable with Transwomen being in the women's Bathroom" then that should be respected by the Trans community, and most importantly by the Government.

Just like if the result turned up with the majority of women saying "yep, we're okay with Transwomen being in the women's Bathroom" then that result should also be respected too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But I personally think that if (which tbf none of us 100% knows the majority of women's feelings on this topic) but if the majority of women on a referendum, said "no I don't feel comfortable with Transwomen being in the women's Bathroom" then that should be respected by the Trans community, and most importantly by the Government.



Just like if the result turned up with the majority of women saying "yep, we're okay with Transwomen being in the women's Bathroom" then that result should also be respected too.

Not sure a safe guarding issue like this should be voted on either tbh, children can't vote in referendums

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But I personally think that if (which tbf none of us 100% knows the majority of women's feelings on this topic) but if the majority of women on a referendum, said "no I don't feel comfortable with Transwomen being in the women's Bathroom" then that should be respected by the Trans community, and most importantly by the Government.

Just like if the result turned up with the majority of women saying "yep, we're okay with Transwomen being in the women's Bathroom" then that result should also be respected too.

Women will not be given a vote on this ...