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The voice of reason
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Not actually sure what a woman is.. Woman's Hour, March 8, 2022 Emma Barnes: And Labour’s definition of a woman? Annaliese Dodds: Well, I have to say that there are different definitions legally around what a woman actually is. I mean you look at the definition within the Equality Act and I think it just says someone who is adult and female, I think, but then doesn’t say how you define either of those things. I mean that’s then… you’ve got the biological definition, the legal definition, all of this kind of thing. Emma Barnes: With respect I didn’t ask for that. What’s the Labour definition? Annaliese Dodds: Well, I think with respect Emma I think it does depend what the context is, surely. You know there are people who have decided to…that they have to make that transition. You know, I’ve spoken with many of them. It’s been a very difficult process for many of those people, and you know understandably because they live as a woman they want to be defined as a woman. That’s what the Gender Recognition Act – again a Labour process – brought into place. Emma Barnes: Context is all, but trans women are women from your perspective? Annaliese Dodds: But, but then when you come to the Equality Act, and you know Emma I’m not going to… Emma Barnes: No no, you’re just Shadow Women and Equalities Minister. ------------------------------ This transcript was sent to JK Rowling by Dodd's office after she publicly criticised her prevarication on the programme. They seemed to think JK find her comments less nonsensical if she saw them in print. ![]() Baffling |
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The truth is that everyone knows the difference between men and women. Distinguishing
between the sexes is an evolved instinct that we share with other species, and we were doing it long before anybody knew anything about chromosomes and genetics. Dodds needs to find the courage to ignore future attempts by entitled caucuses to control her diary, and she needs to avoid them controlling her thinking. She knows the difference between men and women in the same way that everybody else knows it really, but will she be able to put that instinct at the heart of equalities legislation? The time for obfuscation and ‘it depends’ is over. If she does see sense it will upset the LGBTQ+ lobby (who, let’s face it, are never satisfied) but she might leave a legacy that endures. Spectator, today |
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Deny, Defend, Depose.
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Do you not see the issue with not only having your own beliefs, but crying and wailing that everyone must share them too? It's very taliban-esque.
Need to stop being permanently outraged reactionaries.
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The truth is that everyone knows the difference between men and women. Distinguishing
between the sexes is an evolved instinct that we share with other species, and we were doing it long before anybody knew anything about chromosomes and genetics. |
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Deny, Defend, Depose.
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Animals exist that can change their own sex.
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Flag shagger.
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Trans women are not women. Biology, not ideology.
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Deny, Defend, Depose.
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Dudes can appear as women everyday.
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Yeah it's perfectly ok for men to use ladies changing rooms & women's toilets then , because there's no differences biologically between us . And if any of us women dare question it or act concerned ...I guess we should just shut up and accept it.
There was even an article where a ' trans ' person was bragging about using women's spaces,and how there's nothing we can do about it. Now I ask you ...if they had an ounce of respect surely they wouldn't be gloating let alone getting pleasure from making women & girls feel uncomfortable . |
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I reckon that anyone born with a willy should use the men’s toilets for the rest of their lives . Non negotiable !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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Deny, Defend, Depose.
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Dripping with disdain.
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They would just use the facilities and we probably wouldn't even notice or care . You will never understand Slim so keep being as sarcastic as you like......as you're a man and there isn't really a rise in ' trans men ' making guys uncomfortable in men's areas, so you'll never see it from our point of view. Last edited by GoldHeart; 08-07-2024 at 07:41 PM. |
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I posted that nasty trans woman bragging about invading women's toilets
Guess which members had nothing to say? Funny that but here they are with plenty tonight We all know the score It's all about the culture wars, get women in the bin iv got my chest to beat ![]() |
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Remembering Kerry
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There's been Ministers for Women since the start of the 2000s.
Did all the Con Ministers for women get this response. Or is it all fine and okay as long as they're Cons |
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The fact that she's struggling to answer the question, is a sign that we know what her real answer is.
Anyone that's struggling to formulate an opinion on a topic like this is clearly being phony, especially a Politician trying to do it.
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BBC News Text Edit:
[An ongoing feud between J K Rowling and Labour, over the party's stance on women and transgender rights. The author has criticised Sir Keir for selecting Anneliese Dodds as his minister for women and equalities, after Ms Dodds previously said there are "different definitions legally around what a woman actually is".] ![]() |
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The voice of reason
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"They were elected"?
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