[Swan]

If Khaled gets cheers on Friday night (and avoids eviction), Sunday's HL show will see Ali asking for a "clean slate" with him, and that things got "out of hand, the house is a pressure cooker" and that she "may have judged him wrongly" etc etc..

[Black Dagger]

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

How did he?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Swan

How did he?

By attempting a joke with her when he went nah nah, I've been waiting for this moment. I told you it wasnt easy.


Shes obviously humourless.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

How did he?

He did try to point score about the Save & Replace and Killer Nomination options tbh.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode .

[Swan]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode .

Yeah i noticed that earlier too. Strange.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah i noticed that earlier too. Strange.

Maybe hannah's famine comments didnt look right.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode .

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Swan

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

I do agree that poor Khaled’s experience in the house, must be feeling heavy and intense, and I feel a lot of the fun must have been eliminated for him. I can only imagine how awkward and uncomfortable that closed-off environment must be for him, as there is no way of escape - there is no respite for him.

I agree with you about how Ali is coming across, but I’m keeping in mind the fact that she has Autistic traits, which would suggest that her perception, motives and behaviours are being led by a misinterpretation of Khaled, rather than by vindictiveness.

I certainly don’t like the impact of her behaviour on Khaled but I do, at this moment in time, think her actions are due to her inability to read social cues, which is a prevalent trait in those on the Spectrum. Until I have seen enough evidence, I’m choosing to withhold judgement, as by not doing so, I’d feel as if I was guilty of the same behaviour I’m uncomfortable seeing in her.

It will all unfold with the passage of time……..

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Swan

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

Is she because he was clapping and smiling yesterday?there 14 other people in that house don't be so dramatic

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

I'll have to try to access it much later on, when I have time . It sounds like alot has happened.

Whether it's unintentionally ...I have my doubts. Her irrational dislike of Khaled is just too bizarre and unhealthy. Maybe there's an air of paranoia , and I think it is driving her mad that Khaled is so calm and considerate, she seems to want to just see bad in people.

It honestly must be miserable being inside her mind .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'll have to try to access it much later on, when I have time . It sounds like alot has happened.

Whether it's unintentionally ...I have my doubts. Her irrational dislike of Khaled is just too bizarre and unhealthy. Maybe there's an air of paranoia , and I think it is driving her mad that Khaled is so calm and considerate, she seems to want to just see bad in people.

It honestly must be miserable being inside her mind .

I get your doubts but I also have a lot of experience of Autism so I get that too. I’m not saying one perception is correct over the other, just that my views are naturally formed with this in mind.

Definitely keep trying to access last night’s programme as it was probably the most eventful of the series so far, and I just know you will want to see it. I’ll say no more than that!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

He went to share a predicament they had both faced..an ice break having seen her shedding tears…and instead of accepting that she turned on him as point scoring.

She will get jeered on Friday…and hopefully he will be saved and Swan is right she will change tact…

[Maru]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He went to share a predicament they had both faced..an ice break having seen her shedding tears…and instead of accepting that she turned on him as point scoring.

She will get jeered on Friday…and hopefully he will be saved and Swan is right she will change tact…

Yeah he keeps trying to chip at her thinking just a little bit more and I'll get through her ice wall... and all he's getting is an ice sculpture out of his efforts. He should just stop

Since she is the most obvious villain (BB: "The red witch...") she'll get jeered absolutely...and if she's really considering dropping Psychology to pursue activism, then perhaps that should be her new X handle...

[romeofahey]

Sadly I don't think he will get cheers. The eviction crowds are usually full of her delusional fans

[Beso]

Originally Posted by romeofahey

Sadly I don't think he will get cheers. The eviction crowds are usually full of her delusional fans

I call them flants.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Such a humourless woman

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Such a humourless woman

Ali and Khaled were made for each other, if you could just turn Khaled into a woman.

And add Hanah to make the threesome.

[Glenn.]

She already did that. He ****ed it up

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

She already did that. He ****ed it up

No he did not ,she turned it into a massive argument. She's a depressing rain cloud of negativity . And when Khaled is saved on Friday,she will plot and change her pathetic strategy again.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No he did not ,she turned it into a massive argument. She's a depressing rain cloud of negativity . And when Khaled is saved on Friday,she will plot and change her pathetic strategy again.

She didn’t

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

She didn’t

[Glenn.]

He tried a gotcha and got schooled AGAIN