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Originally Posted by Black Dagger

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode .

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode .

Yeah i noticed that earlier too. Strange.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah i noticed that earlier too. Strange.

Maybe hannah's famine comments didnt look right.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode .

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Swan

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

I do agree that poor Khaled’s experience in the house, must be feeling heavy and intense, and I feel a lot of the fun must have been eliminated for him. I can only imagine how awkward and uncomfortable that closed-off environment must be for him, as there is no way of escape - there is no respite for him.

I agree with you about how Ali is coming across, but I’m keeping in mind the fact that she has Autistic traits, which would suggest that her perception, motives and behaviours are being led by a misinterpretation of Khaled, rather than by vindictiveness.

I certainly don’t like the impact of her behaviour on Khaled but I do, at this moment in time, think her actions are due to her inability to read social cues, which is a prevalent trait in those on the Spectrum. Until I have seen enough evidence, I’m choosing to withhold judgement, as by not doing so, I’d feel as if I was guilty of the same behaviour I’m uncomfortable seeing in her.

It will all unfold with the passage of time……..

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I do agree that poor Khaled’s experience in the house, must be feeling heavy and intense, and I feel a lot of the fun must have been eliminated for him. I can only imagine how awkward and uncomfortable that closed-off environment must be for him, as there is no way of escape - there is no respite for him.

I agree with you about how Ali is coming across, but I’m keeping in mind the fact that she has Autistic traits, which would suggest that her perception, motives and behaviours are being led by a misinterpretation of Khaled, rather than by vindictiveness.

I certainly don’t like the impact of her behaviour on Khaled but I do, at this moment in time, think her actions are due to her inability to read social cues, which is a prevalent trait in those on the Spectrum. Until I have seen enough evidence, I’m choosing to withhold judgement, as by not doing so, I’d feel as if I was guilty of the same behaviour I’m uncomfortable seeing in her.

It will all unfold with the passage of time……..

I do agree with most of what you say, but she's a professional psychologist she isnt and cant be that hampered by autism. She is gunning for that poor guy, a psychologist, who made it her profession to understand others differences.

Sorry, i can't sympathise. She's out for Khaled, it's all so wrong.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Swan

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

Is she because he was clapping and smiling yesterday?there 14 other people in that house don't be so dramatic

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Is she because he was clapping and smiling yesterday?there 14 other people in that house don't be so dramatic

It’s okay, he can just pretend he’s happy if he’s that miserable. He’s very good at faking who he is… can’t be that hard to fake how he’s feeling.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

It’s okay, he can just pretend he’s happy if he’s that miserable. He’s very good at faking who he is… can’t be that hard to fake how he’s feeling.

He was revelling in the whole thing yesterday, absolutely loved the drama. All 3 of them did. So smug

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

He was revelling in the whole thing yesterday, absolutely loved the drama. All 3 of them did. So smug

Absolutely. The 3 of them acting like school children but they’re supposedly “standing on business” or whatever, couldn’t even look her in the eye and then Segun backtracked faster than the speed of light.

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Originally Posted by Garfie

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

I'll have to try to access it much later on, when I have time . It sounds like alot has happened.

Whether it's unintentionally ...I have my doubts. Her irrational dislike of Khaled is just too bizarre and unhealthy. Maybe there's an air of paranoia , and I think it is driving her mad that Khaled is so calm and considerate, she seems to want to just see bad in people.

It honestly must be miserable being inside her mind .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'll have to try to access it much later on, when I have time . It sounds like alot has happened.

Whether it's unintentionally ...I have my doubts. Her irrational dislike of Khaled is just too bizarre and unhealthy. Maybe there's an air of paranoia , and I think it is driving her mad that Khaled is so calm and considerate, she seems to want to just see bad in people.

It honestly must be miserable being inside her mind .

I get your doubts but I also have a lot of experience of Autism so I get that too. I’m not saying one perception is correct over the other, just that my views are naturally formed with this in mind.

Definitely keep trying to access last night’s programme as it was probably the most eventful of the series so far, and I just know you will want to see it. I’ll say no more than that!

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Originally Posted by Garfie

I get your doubts but I also have a lot of experience of Autism so I get that too. I’m not saying one perception is correct over the other, just that my views are naturally formed with this in mind.

Definitely keep trying to access last night’s programme as it was probably the most eventful of the series so far, and I just know you will want to see it. I’ll say no more than that!

Garfie it's still not available on itvX , I'll have to see if it's on the archive BB site ....that one usually comes through , albeit sometimes gets glitchy. Hopefully that episode isn't banned on there as well.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Garfie it's still not available on itvX , I'll have to see if it's on the archive BB site ....that one usually comes through , albeit sometimes gets glitchy. Hopefully that episode isn't banned on there as well.

No! Someone you know must have recorded it!? You can’t miss it, GoldHeart!

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Garfie it's still not available on itvX , I'll have to see if it's on the archive BB site ....that one usually comes through , albeit sometimes gets glitchy. Hopefully that episode isn't banned on there as well.

GoldHeart - I’ve found it! Just go to ITV Catch Up on your TV menu, and it’s available there.

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Originally Posted by Garfie

GoldHeart - I’ve found it! Just go to ITV Catch Up on your TV menu, and it’s available there.

Thanks Garfie , I'm going to have to catch-up on last night's and tonight's before I go to bed .