[Mrluvaluva]

I feel like there was no official statement on this or I have amnesia. I understand Segun selected the 3 to join him the first time but I am at a loss to understand the latest selection process. I haven't really read much on the forum today so feel like I may have missed something.

[GoldHeart]

If you're talking about the one that led to Sarah & Tom's eviction, it was literally the 4 housemates with the lowest votes . BB told them to go to the vault.

Then the remaining housemates had to guess who would be evicted/ have the least public votes . They guessed correctly & the prize fund stayed the same. Sarah & Tom received the lowest public votes to win ,so they both got back door evicted .

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

If you're talking about the one that led to Sarah & Tom's eviction, it was literally the 4 housemates with the lowest votes . BB told them to go to the vault.

Then the remaining housemates had to guess who would be evicted/ have the least public votes . They guessed correctly & the prize fund stayed the same. Sarah & Tom received the lowest public votes to win ,so they both got back door evicted .

I just can't see where that was officially confirmed though. Any pointers?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I just can't see where that was officially confirmed though. Any pointers?

Well BB called those 4 to the vault,so we're led to believe out of all 8 remaining that - Segun,Sarah, Nathan & Tom had the lowest overall votes combined .

I don't think BB did a fake bottom like IAC? ...but then again I do think Nathan may finish quite high in the final...but who knows ,as it was mentioned ...the public
have been ' voting to 'save' / 'win' . And I think Segun will finish
in 6 th place in the final.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well BB called those 4 to the vault,so we're led to believe out of all 8 remaining that - Segun,Sarah, Nathan & Tom had the lowest overall votes combined .

I don't think BB did a fake bottom like IAC? ...but then again I do think Nathan may finish quite high in the final...but who knows ,as it was mentioned ...the public
have been ' voting to 'save' / 'win' . And I think Segun will finish
in 6 th place in the final.

My point is. Nobody knew when it was initially announced how many would be entering The Vault. Some assumed it would be all 8.

For me, that would be far more interesting, as you then couldn't work out the hierarchy in the other 6.

If it's true, that the 4 who entered The Vault had the fewest votes from the public, the process of elimination that happened would tell us that Nathan and Segun now had the least public support at that point and were the weakest in the winning stakes. I don't buy into that.

I'm cynical. I think a lot of the reasoning for this comes from hearsay.

In the first round it was notable that Segun had to pick the other 3 himself. This time BB chose the 4. Some might believe it was the bottom 4 but that's not necessarily so.

You understand where I'm coming from?

There has been no clear point on this

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

My point is. Nobody knew when it was initially announced how many would be entering The Vault. Some assumed it would be all 8.

For me, that would be far more interesting, as you then couldn't work out the hierarchy in the other 6.

If it's true, that the 4 who entered The Vault had the fewest votes from the public, the process of elimination that happened would tell us that Nathan and Segun now had the least public support at that point and were the weakest in the winning stakes. I don't buy into that.

I'm cynical. I think a lot of the reasoning for this comes from hearsay.

In the first round it was notable that Segun had to pick the other 3 himself. This time BB chose the 4. Some might believe it was the bottom 4 but that's not necessarily so.

You understand where I'm coming from?

There has been no clear point on this

I get what you're saying,but I believe Segun really has low votes & in the bottom 3 with Sarah & Tom. I have my doubts about Nathan,and BB probably put him in as a random one .

As it would give the game away,and ruin the surprise.


I guess we'll see what order the housemates finish in on the final.

But I'm thinking Sarah ,Tom & Segun really are low in public votes & Nathan was thrown into the mix randomly. As I keep thinking he'll finish high in the final.

[Withano]

They surely didn’t just give a spoiler for 6th and 5th place…

I’d like to think it was a producer decision for good tv

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Withano

They surely didn’t just give a spoiler for 6th and 5th place…

I’d like to think it was a producer decision for good tv

Well if it were the bottom 4 at that point then yes. Although things can change. BP, Sarah and Thomas fans now get to change their allegiance. I just think it's rather swayed.

[MTVN]

It might have just been a random two but there's a very good chance that Segun and Nathan were 5th and 6th in the votes which makes it quite suspicious

Nathan seems to think they just did it to him to mess with him again after last night

[Mrluvaluva]

Let's say the roles were reversed though. Ali, Emma, Hanah and Marcello were put in The Vault. How would that have worked out?

My point being BB made the choices. Not the public nor the HM's. For all we know Marcello might have had less public support than Sarah at that point. So if he had entered The Vault he could have possibly gone. In my mind it was well thought out to get the best possible result in the producers eyes because only they know the public opinion and how they want to push that.

I don't like it when the choice is left to the powers that be.

What happened to democracy?!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Let's say the roles were reversed though. Ali, Emma, Hanah and Marcello were put in The Vault. How would that have worked out?

My point being BB made the choices. Not the public nor the HM's. For all we know Marcello might have had less public support than Sarah at that point. So if he had entered The Vault he could have possibly gone. In my mind it was well thought out to get the best possible result in the producers eyes because only they know the public opinion and how they want to push that.

I don't like it when the choice is left to the powers that be.

What happened to democracy?!

…yeah, it absolutely sets thought processes in motion both inside the house and outside with the voters…I mean, this type of ‘end of game manipulation’ is another new beast for us, which we had when it went to Channel 5 and this adding another layer…so for me this last week has felt less like BB and the BB I love…it’s almost like they’re taking from other shows/maybe multiple ones and throwing it in there and it’s not gelling or flowing because it’s so messily being done…

[moon_peach]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Let's say the roles were reversed though. Ali, Emma, Hanah and Marcello were put in The Vault. How would that have worked out?

My point being BB made the choices. Not the public nor the HM's. For all we know Marcello might have had less public support than Sarah at that point. So if he had entered The Vault he could have possibly gone. In my mind it was well thought out to get the best possible result in the producers eyes because only they know the public opinion and how they want to push that.

I don't like it when the choice is left to the powers that be.

What happened to democracy?!

No. They did explicitly state that the 2 housemates with the lowest votes out of the 8 would be part of the 4 taken to the vault and evicted.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by moon_peach

No. They did explicitly state that the 2 housemates with the lowest votes out of the 8 would be part of the 4 taken to the vault and evicted.

Ok. But the 2 with the lowest votes out of 8 doesn't equate to the two with the lowest votes out of 4.

Let's put Thomas, Segun, Marcello and Emma in there.

Emma might be in the lead. Who knows where Marcello is?

In that scenario, Thomas and Segun might have been shown the back door. Possibly Marcello. We don't know.

[moon_peach]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I feel like there was no official statement on this or I have amnesia. I understand Segun selected the 3 to join him the first time but I am at a loss to understand the latest selection process. I haven't really read much on the forum today so feel like I may have missed something.

They didn’t state this at all, but I think we can assume those were the 4 lowest voted housemates, based on what we’re seeing from the polls and bookies. It makes sense they did that because otherwise, for us viewers there wouldn’t be much suspense. (Ie, if they’d put in Thomas, Sarah, Hanah & Marcello most of us would have had no doubt who was going).

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by moon_peach

They didn’t state this at all, but I think we can assume those were the 4 lowest voted housemates, based on what we’re seeing from the polls and bookies. It makes sense they did that because otherwise, for us viewers there wouldn’t be much suspense. (Ie, if they’d put in Thomas, Sarah, Hanah & Marcello most of us would have had no doubt who was going).

But yet again everyone is assuming.

There's no official corroboration on how the process happened.

One person's views isn't the same as the next.

I would have been hard pressed to choose between Marcello and Sarah had he been selected instead of Nathan for example. They both have their own qualities, yet, misgivings for certain aspects.

Marcello was down in the first couple of weeks because of certain comments that came over, to some, as quite misogynistic. Sarah had her moments too as in "Stop The Gloats" etc.

I think that might have been more suspenseful.

[moon_peach]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

But yet again everyone is assuming.

There's no official corroboration on how the process happened.

One person's views isn't the same as the next.

I would have been hard pressed to choose between Marcello and Sarah had he been selected instead of Nathan for example. They both have their own qualities, yet, misgivings for certain aspects.

Marcello was down in the first couple of weeks because of certain comments that came over, to some, as quite misogynistic. Sarah had her moments too as in "Stop The Gloats" etc.

I think that might have been more suspenseful.

They explicitly stated that the two housemates with the lowest votes out of the 8 would be in the vault. They didn’t state where the other 2 placed in there fell - that’s what I was assuming. They were clear that Thomas and Sarah received the least votes out of all 8.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by moon_peach

They explicitly stated that the two housemates with the lowest votes out of the 8 would be in the vault. They didn’t state where the other 2 placed in there fell - that’s what I was assuming. They were clear that Thomas and Sarah received the least votes out of all 8.

I have no qualms with that. My point is about the selection process, and how the outcome of that can be very different to work in certain people's favour. I'm not sure you get my point.

[moon_peach]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I have no qualms with that. My point is about the selection process, and how the outcome of that can be very different to work in certain people's favour. I'm not sure you get my point.

I don’t think you’re getting my point. We’re running around in circles!

It sounds like you think that the two with the least votes were chosen from the 4 in the vault. (Or have I misunderstood?) What I’m saying is that the two with the least votes were chosen from the 8 housemates. They were put in the vault because they were the lowest voted out of all 8. Then they just chucked in another 2 in order to create suspense/for the housemates to bet. But Thomas and Sarah would always have been put in the vault and would always have been evicted.

[moon_peach]

To clarify, afaik they didn’t say they were the 4 lowest. They did say ‘the two housemates with the lowest votes are part of this 4 and will be sent home’

[MTVN]

I think they could have come up with a better way of doing it

BB could have paired them up and had each of them go into the vault for a chance to win a modest amount of money (like £1k each) then the final pair is Thomas and Sarah who find out they're being evicted instead of being able to win money

[bots]

i thought they would leave the positions of the other 2 that entered the vault unknown, but BB specifically said the 4 housemates with the lowest votes. Obviously things can change by friday, but it's pretty unlikely, so i do expect Nathan and Segun out first.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by bots

i thought they would leave the positions of the other 2 that entered the vault unknown, but BB specifically said the 4 housemates with the lowest votes. Obviously things can change by friday, but it's pretty unlikely, so i do expect Nathan and Segun out first.

They didnt.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

They didnt.

Thank god someone understands my position!

[bots]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

They didnt.

yes they did

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by bots

yes they did

BB said:

4 of you will enter the vault.

Nathan stand up
Sarah stand up
Segun stand up
Thomas stand up

Only 2 of you will return.

*********
Then BB told the safe housemates:

The two housemates with the fewest votes are in the vault and will be evicted.