[UserSince2005]

An actual icon
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rq4evqq75o

[Cherie]

Surprised ITV did not make a drama out of this, he was an innocent man protecting his property and his life was ruined by bleeding hearts

[MTVN]

Seems like a very sad story all round. A 16 year old lost his life and Tony Martin effectively lost his because of everything that happened after

[arista]

He was a great man.

[arista]

[Convicted killer Tony Martin,
who shot dead a
teenage intruder in his home in 1999,
has died at the age of 80,
a family friend has said.

The killing of 16-year-old Fred Barras
at Martin's Norfolk farmhouse was
hugely controversial at the time,
with the country divided over whether
his actions were pre-meditated,
or simply a farmer defending
himself and his property.

Martin was jailed in 2000 for the
boy's murder, and for injuring another man,
29-year-old Brendan Fearon
in the same incident, before being released
three years later after the murder conviction
was reduced to manslaughter.]



I would also Shoot an Intruder
if I was a Farmer

[UserSince2005]

It was clearly pre meditated. He was waiting for the little ****ers. Doesn’t make him the one in the wrong though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i remember it was a sh1t show at the time but he was not guilty of anything

[Glenn.]

He killed someone.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He killed someone.

Scumbags shouldn’t be breaking in tbf.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Scumbags shouldn’t be breaking in tbf.

He had an illegal firearm
The boy was shot in the back because he was running away

The punishment for burglary is not death

Nothing wrong with protecting yourself and family but he was found guilty of murder then reduced to manslaughter

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He had an illegal firearm
The boy was shot in the back because he was running away

The punishment for burglary is not death

Nothing wrong with protecting yourself and family but he was found guilty of murder then reduced to manslaughter

As I recall he had been subjected to a series of burglaries for which he got no help from the police and he took the law into his own hands, who wouldn't do the same in his situation... we will never know if he meant to kill the lad

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

As I recall he had been subjected to a series of burglaries for which he got no help from the police and he took the law into his own hands, who wouldn't do the same in his situation... we will never know if he meant to kill the lad

As I recall he lay in wait For them
Having shot someone myself with a shotgun my first shot was in the air as a warning

There have been other cases after and before this in which the law works both ways

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

As I recall he had been subjected to a series of burglaries for which he got no help from the police and he took the law into his own hands, who wouldn't do the same in his situation... we will never know if he meant to kill the lad

There was actually a really similar case in Ireland in 2004, a Farmer called Padraig Nally

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/s...-41527109.html

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He had an illegal firearm
The boy was shot in the back because he was running away

The punishment for burglary is not death

Nothing wrong with protecting yourself and family but he was found guilty of murder then reduced to manslaughter

You've never been broken into, I'm assuming.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

You've never been broken into, I'm assuming.

My house has been done years ago

[Mystic Mock]

It's a murky situation, but ultimately I think that I agree with Sheriff on this one.

While I agree that the kid shouldn't have been trying to break into this man's home, if he is trying to then flee he is therefore not a threat to Tony Martin at this point, therefore shooting the kid in the back was reckless imo.

Either way though I don't believe him to be an evil monster, so I do wish him to RIP

[Gusto Brunt]

I thought he died 20 years ago.

[Beso]

He wont be the last farmer to die this year.

RIP tony.

If you can shoot a sheep worrying dog, you should be allowed to shoot scumbag burglars.

[Livia]

He was treated terribly. If someone breaks into my house, all bets are off as far as I'm concerned and they should expect to leave in a box or a bag.

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Fair dues