[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Looks like the show got the all clear.
They did nothing wrong.
ITV better bring it back now.
Its the only good thing Manchester exports.

You must be joking, it was awful exploitation & trash ....and it got rapidly worse as it dragged on year after year. It became more about Kyle being in love with himself and showing off, and less about helping people.

And he got more nasty and he loved sticking the knife in ,whilst also trying to force cringe banter with his 10 ft tall hulk security guard...who just stood and said " no Mr Kyle " & " yes Mr Kyle" " 3 bags full Mr Kyle" , embarrassing.

[user104658]

It was gross exploitation but that sort of "poverty porn" was all the rage back in the 2000's, there were countless shows and "documentaries" trying to make a few £ the same way. It all belongs in the trash regardless.

It was clearly based on the Jerry Springer model but that was at least more tongue-in-cheek and clearly 75% staged. Kyle's show frankly relied on the "guests" often being too naive/not clever enough to realise what they were getting themselves into.

[arista]

[It was clearly based on the Jerry Springer model]


Yes but Jerry Springer
was far better, than the Coarse Jeremy Kyle

[MTVN]

Yeah the show was a product of its time and the guests were also a product of societal problems that go way beyond the Jeremy Kyle show. By its nature a lot of the people on there had major problems with addictions and mental health issues so it's difficult to attribute a death directly to the program.

For all it's faults there were some people genuinely helped by the show too

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah the show was a product of its time and the guests were also a product of societal problems that go way beyond the Jeremy Kyle show. By its nature a lot of the people on there had major problems with addictions and mental health issues so it's difficult to attribute a death directly to the program.

I mean you've basically outlined why the show should never have been greenlit in the first place.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I mean you've basically outlined why the show should never have been greenlit in the first place.

Maybe but JK was not alone in that - there was basically zero safeguarding in television at the time

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Maybe but JK was not alone in that - there was basically zero safeguarding in television at the time

True I don't think it's particularly on Jeremy Kyle himself, much as I think he's a bit of a nob in general. More the culture that allowed this to be a thing at all.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

True I don't think it's particularly on Jeremy Kyle himself, much as I think he's a bit of a nob in general. More the culture that allowed this to be a thing at all.

Too a lesser extent they did it with shows like the X Factor too, I don't watch any of them anymore but I really hated when they had the "bad" acts on and clearly a lot of these people they were taking the piss out of publicly had issues. Pretty gross really

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Too a lesser extent they did it with shows like the X Factor too, I don't watch any of them anymore but I really hated when they had the "bad" acts on and clearly a lot of these people they were taking the piss out of publicly had issues. Pretty gross really

Looking back on some of the old clips on TikTok etc it wasn't even to that much of a lesser extent - The X Factor was awful for it in hindsight, they were flat-out gaslighting some of them with producers acting like they were good/had a chance just for them to go in and be openly laughed at and torn to bits by Cowell and co... shocking really.

Even arr Big Brother has some questionable elements through the years. People being chosen who cannot possibly have passed a robust psych exam (as they always claim) with the clear specific intent being for them to be mocked for entertainment.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Looking back on some of the old clips on TikTok etc it wasn't even to that much of a lesser extent - The X Factor was awful for it in hindsight, they were flat-out gaslighting some of them with producers acting like they were good/had a chance just for them to go in and be openly laughed at and torn to bits by Cowell and co... shocking really.

Even arr Big Brother has some questionable elements through the years. People being chosen who cannot possibly have passed a robust psych exam (as they always claim) with the clear specific intent being for them to be mocked for entertainment.

Yeah, actually it's one of the main reasons I stopped watching those type of reality talent shows. And yes agree about BB too

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kyle is on Talk and i cant listen to him

vile

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah the show was a product of its time and the guests were also a product of societal problems that go way beyond the Jeremy Kyle show. By its nature a lot of the people on there had major problems with addictions and mental health issues so it's difficult to attribute a death directly to the program.

For all it's faults there were some people genuinely helped by the show too

I agree with this,the show did help a lot of people,there are always two sides.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I agree with this,the show did help a lot of people,there are always two sides.

Who did it help?

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Who did it help?

It lined the pockets of the producers, Jeremy Kyle, ITV.

There we are. I watchd a pretty fun but not especially enlightening takedown of The Jeremy Kyle Show on YouTube yesterday. Worth a viewing for those who want to hate-watch the scummy, self-righteous hypocrite. To my mind, if it helped anyone, it was only through inadvertently and unintentionally drawing attention to the plight of those who were struggling, much in the same way that the Whitechapel murders drew attention to the poverty of the East End.

Youtube video

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Who did it help?

"Many people benefitted from the aftercare service provided by The Jeremy Kyle Show and there were also many who benefitted and didn’t appear on the show," Graham said in a statement.

"The service had a positive impact on many people's lives and, in some cases, those whose needs are often unheard and ignored within our society were acknowledged and heard by the aftercare team."

Graham added that the services provided to participants helped "challenge homophobia, transphobia and racism and it provided a platform to brave survivors of domestic abuse, trauma and childhood trauma because they wanted to raise public awareness and ultimately help others".

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

"Many people benefitted from the aftercare service provided by The Jeremy Kyle Show and there were also many who benefitted and didn’t appear on the show," Graham said in a statement.

"The service had a positive impact on many people's lives and, in some cases, those whose needs are often unheard and ignored within our society were acknowledged and heard by the aftercare team."

Graham added that the services provided to participants helped "challenge homophobia, transphobia and racism and it provided a platform to brave survivors of domestic abuse, trauma and childhood trauma because they wanted to raise public awareness and ultimately help others".

Yes in some ways the show provided a lifeline to people falling through the cracks who couldn't access conventional support services

It's definitely not a simple picture