[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Livia

Child brides, honour killings, FGM... just some of the cultural norms that are against the law in this country, but that people are frightened of prosecuting for fear of offence. The girls who suffer these appalling crimes are being let down by this country in much the same way that the young girls in Rotherham were let down. A crime is a crime, regardless of the faith, colour or background of the perpetrator. Let's hope one day it'll be that simple.

[Beso]

Is this the **** thats an imam as well?...malaysian man marries 11yr old thia girl?

[Kazanne]

It's all in what Livia said.

[Kizzy]

I'm so glad she agreed with me then

[Denver]

It is not religion it us culture

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Adam.

It is not religion it us culture

It is perverted opportunism facilitated by an archaic system which was founded by perverts for perverts to boost recruitment to their cause.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It is perverted opportunism facilitated by an archaic system which was founded by perverts for perverts to boost recruitment to their cause.

We get it you dislike Catholics! jeeze....

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We get it you dislike Catholics! jeeze....

Where in the world does the Catholic Church advocate old perverts marrying children or allow Children to be married?

Poor joke.

Try another religion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Where in the world does the Catholic Church advocate old perverts marrying children or allow Children to be married?

Poor joke.

Try another religion.

Oh I thought the discussion was focused on confirmation where little girls dream of becoming brides of Christ... bit creepy that.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh I thought the discussion was focused on confirmation where little girls dream of becoming brides of Christ... bit creepy that.

If you really thought that then you need help. Confirmation in the Christian religion is SYMBOLIC, tiny little girls being forced to marry old men in some other religions is PHYSICAL and ACTUAL.

[Cherie]

Got to page 2 before the catholics got dragged into a topic that doesnt relate to them, you are slipping Kizzy, confirmation is guidance by the Holy Spirit for both males and females, nothing to do with being a bride of Christ

[Cherie]

The article is very sad, poverty is often at the root of this practice rather than culture

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Got to page 2 before the catholics got dragged into a topic that doesnt relate to them, you are slipping Kizzy, confirmation is guidance by the Holy Spirit for both males and females, nothing to do with being a bride of Christ

She KNOWS that - she is just trying to bait me because she knows that I am a Christian.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

She KNOWS that - she is just trying to bait me because she knows that I am a Christian.

Maybe a conversion to Islam is overdue

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Maybe a conversion to Islam is overdue

I'm thinking about it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Got to page 2 before the catholics got dragged into a topic that doesnt relate to them, you are slipping Kizzy, confirmation is guidance by the Holy Spirit for both males and females, nothing to do with being a bride of Christ

Christianity & Catholism always gets a battering unfortunately .
I'm glad you've brought sense to this .

Interesting when majority of child brides we hear about is actually in another religion that gets away with it as they marry these children in other countries . Because they know in this country it's illegal .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Christianity & Catholism always gets a battering unfortunately .
I'm glad you've brought sense to this .

Interesting when majority of child brides we hear about is actually in another religion that gets away with it as they marry these children in other countries . Because they know in this country it's illegal .

They "get away with it" because they have different laws in different countries. I don't think anyone her would agree with those laws btw it's just that they're happening in differentcountries that we don't live in so have no control over. Christianity and Catholicism on the otherhand are the majority (by a long way) religions in the UK and Ireland. Catholicism had a massive influence over the laws in Ireland up until very recently, it still has a hold over our state schools and personally I know a hell of a lot more about it than other religions and is really the only one that I have any personal experience or proper knowledge of. Which is the reason that's the only one I'll have any informed opinion on

[Nicky91]

every culture has it's different traditions, what we might find weird is normal for them and what is normal for us, they might find weird

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They "get away with it" because they have different laws in different countries. I don't think anyone her would agree with those laws btw it's just that they're happening in differentcountries that we don't live in so have no control over. Christianity and Catholicism on the otherhand are the majority (by a long way) religions in the UK and Ireland. Catholicism had a massive influence over the laws in Ireland up until very recently, it still has a hold over our state schools and personally I know a hell of a lot more about it than other religions and is really the only one that I have any personal experience or proper knowledge of. Which is the reason that's the only one I'll have any informed opinion on

It’s got nada to do with the discussion topic though

[Livia]

Catholics don't cut the clitoris off of girl children, without anesthetic and with unsterilised equipemt, and sew up their vagina so there's just enough room to bleed through. Neither do they force young girls to marry old men. I can't see any similarity between the religions that encourage this and Christianity in any form. Okay, there are perverts who've assaulted kids but they are not the "norm" in Christianity. Abusing young girls though IS the norm in some other religions.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It’s got nada to do with the discussion topic though

You bring up one religion, others will follow as the discussion progresses

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You bring up one religion, others will follow as the discussion progresses

The topic is child brides, nothing to to with catholicism no matter how much someone wants it to be, Kizzy saying confirmation is about becoming a bride of Christ is completely inaccurate

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Catholics don't cut the clitoris off of girl children, without anesthetic and with unsterilised equipemt, and sew up their vagina so there's just enough room to bleed through. Neither do they don't force young girls to marry old men. I can't see any similarity between the religions that encourage this and Christianity in any form. Okay, there are perverts who've assaulted kids but they are not the "norm" in Christianity. Abusing young girls though IS the norm in some other religions.

FGM is practiced among some adherents of the Muslim, Christian, and Jewish faiths. FGM is also practiced among some animists, who believe in the existence of individual spirits and supernatural forces. It is erroneously linked to religion, is not particular to any religious faith, and predates Christianity and Islam.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/06/16/...tal-mutilation
Terrible practice but not specific to a religion more cultures

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You bring up one religion, others will follow as the discussion progresses

tbh the thread title just says religion, not specifically which religion

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

She KNOWS that - she is just trying to bait me because she knows that I am a Christian.

Nope, and religion is in the thread heading, there is no proviso as to which religion is under discussion. I was alluding to this,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8428171.html

Nuns are brides of christ though Cherie I still think confirmation is creepy.