[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

“You have to make more noise than anybody else, you have to make yourself more obtrusive than anybody else, you have to fill all the papers more than anybody else, in fact you have to be there all the time and see that they do not show you under, if you are really going to get your reform realised.”

Emmeline Pankhurst.

I am utterly shocked at the responses I have been seeing to these protests. But I think I'm especially shocked that there are women trying to deny the benefits of protesting when that is EXACTLY what granted us electoral equality in 1928.

The fight for equality has to start somewhere. Black people have been ignored for centuries - of course they are going to ****ing rebel. That's just human nature.

Educate yourselves.

Exactly..
Really good post.

Says a great deal all through.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

“You have to make more noise than anybody else, you have to make yourself more obtrusive than anybody else, you have to fill all the papers more than anybody else, in fact you have to be there all the time and see that they do not show you under, if you are really going to get your reform realised.”

Emmeline Pankhurst.

I am utterly shocked at the responses I have been seeing to these protests. But I think I'm especially shocked that there are women trying to deny the benefits of protesting when that is EXACTLY what granted us electoral equality in 1928.

The fight for equality has to start somewhere. Black people have been ignored for centuries - of course they are going to ****ing rebel. That's just human nature.

Educate yourselves.

Don’t be condescending by telling people to educate themselves.

Lots try and use the fact that woman’s rights and gays rights as an example of how change will come by getting yourself out in the public eye.

Racism is a far deeper divide but change will come if the people that we vote into power have no choice but to make laws that protect ethnic minority’s because the overwhelming voice from the people is we want the law changed.

As soon as protesters show violence and start attacking businesses and the police all the momentum is lost and we are back to square one.

All good people don’t want violence and vandalism on the streets so that the empathy they felt for the cause is replaced by anger.

It’s people in suits that use pens that change life’s not those in hoodies carrying improvised weapons.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

The fight for equality has to start somewhere. Black people have been ignored for centuries - of course they are going to ****ing rebel. That's just human nature.

Educate yourselves.

Which equalities are they missing in the UK?

Originally Posted by Liam-

Or maybe it's because the recent protests have been going on for several weekends in a row, and now they can use social media to communicate more effectively.

[Cherie]

The London Mayor has asked that people do not march this weekend, do not throw away 12 weeks of lockdown, endanger further lives to the virus, not to mention the countless business's owned by both black and white and associated jobs that will be lost if the virus starts to spread unchecked again. I guess he needs to educate himself as well

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The London Mayor has asked that people do not march this weekend, do not throw away 12 weeks of lockdown, endanger further lives to the virus, not to mention the countless business's owned by both black and white and associated jobs that will be lost if the virus starts to spread unchecked again. I guess he needs to educate himself as well

If this problem really is hundreds of years old, I'm sure it can wait a few weeks until a global pandemic -which seems to affect BAME people worse- has ebbed down a bit.

But what does an Oreo like him know about anything

[arista]

Yes the mayor also said
after 5PM
The Police Curfew takes over in Central London,
and Police can arrest them.

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Well this London Mayor is not covered in glory as to his handling of very much.

I'm not in favour of destruction of anything by the more volatile of people attaching themselves to the protests.

This is in the public domain now, after the trigger from the horrific killing of George Floyd.
Those deep rooted issues, suppressed for so long were bound to surface.

Now, the government and authorities would love all this to go away.
Constantly on about this pandemic, when the government has created more and more confusion of what is acceptable now.

Even looking at reducing the distance figure.
Despite the R infection rate risng from a few weeks ago from 0.5 to 0.9.
To now O.7 to 0.9
With it estimated at 1 or over 1 in some areas.
Yet more and more of the lockdown being eased.

People are confused.
I cannot grasp all the so called easing of measures.
There's people who haven't a clue how, or is it even safe to now engage is this bubble from this weekend too.

These protesters feel strongly, their cause is right, there are racial issues in the USA and here in the UK.
No matter how much some in the UK, would like it all swept under the carpet.

These protesters will persist and rightly so.
The message is clear.
Black lives matter.

To some in the USA and UK, black lives probably don't, so any attempt to portray these protesters negatively will be seized on.

No, Ashley's post is pretty much spot on as AnnieK indicated too.

It would be all too easy to stop protesting now, leaving those in power, locally and Nationally to pay lip service to the issue while again never addressing it.

Destruction of anything, even offensive statues of dubious characters of history doesn't help the cause obviously.
However the cause, in my view is right.
So government and Councils now need to engage not try to divide further.

To not just hear but actually listen too.
Then really do something positive to address the very serious issues raised in these protests.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Even looking at reducing the distance figure.
Despite the R infection rate risng from a few weeks ago from 0.5 to 0.9.
To now O.7 to 0.9
With it estimated at 1 or over 1 in some areas.
Yet more and more of the lockdown being eased.

People are confused.
I cannot grasp all the so called easing of measures.

They said it would be constantly monitored and restrictions would come back in if it went back up mainly to combat fears about coming out. The truth is that the economy is now on the verge of complete collapse and they are desperately trying to claw back public confidence in getting back two work... and spending so that work actually exists.

I suspect it isn't going to work, trading will remain at below 70% of pre-Covid levels regardless, and companies will start dropping like flies in a few months time.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They said it would be constantly monitored and restrictions would come back in if it went back up mainly to combat fears about coming out. The truth is that the economy is now on the verge of complete collapse and they are desperately trying to claw back public confidence in getting back two work... and spending so that work actually exists.

I suspect it isn't going to work, trading will remain at below 70% of pre-Covid levels regardless, and companies will start dropping like flies in a few months time.

I think you're right TS, definitely in your last paragraph.

[Liam-]

‘Defending’ a British war memorial to the people who defeated the nazis, while throwing up nazi salutes is peak 2020

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

‘Defending’ a British war memorial to the people who defeated the nazis, while throwing up nazi salutes is peak 2020

no brain cells, is anyone surprised?

[The Slim Reaper]

Good to see so many historians out on the streets worried about protecting and preserving our historical heritage.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

‘Defending’ a British war memorial to the people who defeated the nazis, while throwing up nazi salutes is peak 2020

It looks more like they're pointing? Whatever they're doing, they're not social distancing...

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

no brain cells, is anyone surprised?

They got nothing else to do, footballs not on

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

They got nothing else to do, footballs not on

no need to tar everyone with the same brush, Slim likes football for instance

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

no need to tar everyone with the same brush, Slim likes football for instance

I do enjoy beating up minorities more though.

[The Slim Reaper]

Another one from TIBBs mr popular, 2020

The mask slips a bit further.

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

[Liam-]

It’s almost like they never cared about the violence or statues

[Oliver_W]

And there was me thinking we weren't meant to judge groups based on a few idiots.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

And there was me thinking we weren't meant to judge groups based on a few idiots.

A few idiots? This is the culmination of a concerted effort by media and politicians who've dog whistled British superiority into action, leading to a racist brexit and what we're seeing today.

These are not the same as people who have had to fight injustice all their lives. These people have been fed their anger and frustrations by Johnson and farage, and used for their own ends.

[arista]

More spreading Covid-19

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Another one from TIBBs mr popular, 2020

The mask slips a bit further.

Not a fan of Nick Ferrari either if that helps

My issue with LBC is it's all about ratings so you have shows designed to attract both sides with little balance in either of them....